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Posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
I find myself with extreme love/hate feelings for people in general. Not even just for individuals, but for groups of people.
I may spot someone very quickly and have strong positive or negative feelings about them.
What I'm wondering, do you think it's wrong to hate? What if that hate is based on logic? If you think that person or persons is doing harm to others or negatively contributes to society?
I find myself having just uncontrollable hatred for certain groups of people in society (certain variations of underclass culture). I know there is good justification for hating them, as I know for a fact they are a negative drain on the world. But I don't know why my hatred is to strong and why it's so extreme. Most people have a "meh, live and let live" mentality. I just have an uncontrollable hatred.
Note: Don't worry, no one here on babble is the group of people I don't like. You all have been one of the groups I love. You give off such great energy and the world is lucky to have you all. NOT ONE OF YOU HAS GIVEN ME ANY BAD VIBES. I have a lot of love for people on here.
Posted by gardenergirl on April 15, 2007, at 22:55:46
In reply to Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified?, posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
Color me idealistic, but I didn't know people still said that.
gg
Posted by sleepygirl on April 15, 2007, at 23:01:18
In reply to Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified?, posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
> I find myself with extreme love/hate feelings for people in general. Not even just for individuals, but for groups of people.
>
> I may spot someone very quickly and have strong positive or negative feelings about them.
>
> What I'm wondering, do you think it's wrong to hate? What if that hate is based on logic? If you think that person or persons is doing harm to others or negatively contributes to society?
>
> I find myself having just uncontrollable hatred for certain groups of people in society (certain variations of underclass culture). I know there is good justification for hating them, as I know for a fact they are a negative drain on the world. But I don't know why my hatred is to strong and why it's so extreme. Most people have a "meh, live and let live" mentality. I just have an uncontrollable hatred.
>
> Note: Don't worry, no one here on babble is the group of people I don't like. You all have been one of the groups I love. You give off such great energy and the world is lucky to have you all. NOT ONE OF YOU HAS GIVEN ME ANY BAD VIBES. I have a lot of love for people on here.
well......
I'd say consider what the characteristics of said people might mean to you
why are they so objectionable?
does it resonate with some experience of yours??
-peace ;-)
sg
Posted by karen_kay on April 15, 2007, at 23:09:48
In reply to Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified?, posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
yeah, i was thinking just like sg.
it probably means something. if you feel you have some sort of strong reason behind your feelings, then there probably is a reason you feel that way dear. but, that doesn't make it fact.
i haven't a clue of what group, association, ect, ect, ect. i jsut hope you aren't talking about those poor cavemen. lord knows those guys are spending a ton on therapists already. and they seem quite evolved (they have girlfriends, dinner parties, roast duck with mango salsa).
i can't say i'm not guilty. just a few days ago, i accused lar of being a virgo (still muttering about virgos.......) perhaps instead of muttering about virgos, i should mutter about 'ex kk' and lar.
Posted by Declan on April 16, 2007, at 3:01:45
In reply to Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified?, posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
I was reading the answer the Dalai Lama gave to a question along the lines of 'You are in the room with Hitler. He is going to kill everyone. What do you do?'
and the Dalai Lama said
'I would shoot him in the legs, and if that didn't work, the head'.
I suspect he was having fun, but I think he meant it too.
No hate though(?)
Posted by Declan on April 16, 2007, at 3:11:56
In reply to Re: Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified? » Michael83, posted by sleepygirl on April 15, 2007, at 23:01:18
Is it true that you need a permit to feed the homeless in some parts of the US?
That's what I read in the papers here.
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:19:51
In reply to Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified?, posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
Just to make sure everyone knows, I just "dislike" certain groups of people. I'm not in danger of actually hurting anyone, it's nothing like that. Just so everyone knows, I don't want people to think I'm some Columbine-like nut job.
I just don't like what I consider to be the "bad" people of the world.
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:20:29
In reply to Underclass? Seriously? » Michael83, posted by gardenergirl on April 15, 2007, at 22:55:46
I don't know how else to describe it. I was going to use the word "hillbilly" but I didn't want to offend anyone.
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:21:50
In reply to Re: Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified? » Michael83, posted by sleepygirl on April 15, 2007, at 23:01:18
>>>>does it resonate with some experience of yours??
All my opinions of people are based on real life experiences. This is part of what frustrates me when people (not on here) tell me it's wrong to hate anyone.
It's wrong to hate a "bad" person? That's a bit silly.
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:22:41
In reply to Re: Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified? » Michael83, posted by karen_kay on April 15, 2007, at 23:09:48
>>>>>>i jsut hope you aren't talking about those poor cavemen. lord knows those guys are spending a ton on therapists already. and they seem quite evolved (they have girlfriends, dinner parties, roast duck with mango salsa).
LMAO I love those cavemen commercials.
Posted by madeline on April 16, 2007, at 7:03:10
In reply to Re: Underclass? Seriously? » gardenergirl, posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:20:29
You should probably know that I come from what could easily be considered a hillbilly background.
In any case...
Yes, it is wrong to hate I think. Under any circumstances.
Harboring hate in one's heart only hurts you and fosters it in others.
I try to seek to understand and not judge.
Posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 8:56:55
In reply to Re: Underclass? Seriously? » gardenergirl, posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:20:29
i'm about as hillbilly as hillbillies come dear....
and i just know you love me!(can't you just hear the dueling banjoes in the background?)
kk,
from a long line of hillbillies, proud of it and not a bit offendedhave a great day, in fact, the best day ever!
Posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:35:55
In reply to shoot... » Michael83, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 8:56:55
bigot.
Posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:37:27
In reply to Michael83 » karen_kay, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:35:55
That word is for Micheal, not you kk.
Posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 12:45:32
In reply to Having problems, posted by Declan on April 16, 2007, at 3:11:56
just so you aren't feeling ignored, i haven't a clue. i live in indiana (where pretty much everyone is about as close to homeless as homeless can be :) so, if you're interested in helping the needy, you can always send me some sand?
honestly though, when i've traveled (rarely), i've never heard of such things. i know they prefer you not feed birds in public. and i do know that in certain towns, they send homeless on their way with bus tickets to other states. one way, that is. suppose that's one way of fixing the problem of homeless close to home?
Posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 12:50:40
In reply to Re: Having problems » Declan, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 12:45:32
Declan I've not heard of it being illegal to feedd them as there are soup kitchens for the homeless. Love Phillipa
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 13:00:06
In reply to Is it wrong to hate? Can it be justified?, posted by Michael83 on April 15, 2007, at 20:03:53
I've been told that feeings are FEELINGS.
They are neither right now wrong. It's what we DO with (or about) them that is right or wrong.
But feelings just ARE.
Kath (hugs to ya)
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 13:04:31
In reply to Re: Michael83, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:37:27
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 13:06:20
In reply to Having problems, posted by Declan on April 16, 2007, at 3:11:56
> Is it true that you need a permit to feed the homeless in some parts of the US?
>
> That's what I read in the papers here.I read that in a Canadian paper also. I believe it was in one town, but they mentioned other places as well.
I didn't get the impression that it was all over the place but it's a pretty darned disturbing thought.
Kath
Posted by scratchpad on April 16, 2007, at 13:38:30
In reply to Re: Having problems, posted by Phillipa on April 16, 2007, at 12:50:40
> Declan I've not heard of it being illegal to feedd them as there are soup kitchens for the homeless. Love Phillipa
You have to have enough parking (at least here where I live in Florida where the homeless tents are legally slashed by the police) at a facility where homeless are fed.
Honest to god.
sp
Posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 15:31:24
In reply to Michael83 » karen_kay, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:35:55
'well, how'd i screw that one up?'
it did make me laugh to be called a bigot though, for what it's worth. i'm not trying to be insensitive, uncivil or all of the above. just honest.
Posted by Fivefires on April 16, 2007, at 15:59:25
In reply to Note, posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 6:19:51
Yeah that's a good little note there Michael.
Now understand.
seeya, 5f
Posted by Kath on April 16, 2007, at 16:03:19
In reply to i was thinking... » TheMeanReds, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 15:31:24
Hi Sweetie,
he didn't mean you! He corrected that afterward.
luv ya, & yer NOT a b***** whatever.
luv, Kath
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 16:09:55
In reply to Re: Michael83, posted by TheMeanReds on April 16, 2007, at 12:37:27
LOL I think it's funny you think I'm a bigot. To imply there are no wrongs, and that hating anyone is, no matter how wrong of a person they are, is wrong.
Posted by Michael83 on April 16, 2007, at 16:11:51
In reply to shoot... » Michael83, posted by karen_kay on April 16, 2007, at 8:56:55
You're probably not the kind I'm thinking of. =P You're too nice to be a real hillbilly.
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