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Posted by gardenergirl on July 20, 2004, at 10:53:55
Hi sweetie,
TofuEmmy and I wanted to say hello and to say we hope that you are having a good week. Wish we would have posted this yesterday...((((lonelygirl)))
gg
Posted by karen_kay on July 20, 2004, at 10:57:36
In reply to For LonelyGirl, posted by gardenergirl on July 20, 2004, at 10:53:55
lg,
very very VERY good luck in your interviews dear!!!! (though you have talent and don't need luck.. but, didn't someone once say they'd rather be lucky than talented or something like that??)
anyway... you're both lucky and talented...
((((lg)))))
xoxoxoxo (stolen, as someone practically lectured me about stealing material :)
kk
Posted by ghost on July 20, 2004, at 10:59:01
In reply to and also..., posted by karen_kay on July 20, 2004, at 10:57:36
you have interviews!!!!! i'm out of the loop.
GOOD LUCK. Knock 'em out!
ghost
Posted by pegasus on July 20, 2004, at 11:48:40
In reply to For LonelyGirl, posted by gardenergirl on July 20, 2004, at 10:53:55
Yes, please let us know how the interviews are going. And how you're doing in general. I was just thinking yesterday about that open chat we had a while back about leaving your therapist. Which then made me wonder how things are going for you. I'm hoping they're good!
pegasus
Posted by lonelygirl on July 25, 2004, at 2:53:44
In reply to Re: For LonelyGirl, posted by pegasus on July 20, 2004, at 11:48:40
Thanks, everyone... But unfortunately, the interviews sucked (can I say that here? Merriam Webster doesn't seem to have a problem with it, so I guess it should be ok). I also got a rejection letter in the mail today, which is actually sort of nice, because most companies simply ignore me, or at best, e-mail me a rejection, so I'm almost flattered that someone actually took the trouble to type my name into the form letter, print it out, and mail it to me.
Posted by SandyWeb on July 25, 2004, at 9:16:04
In reply to Re: For LonelyGirl, posted by lonelygirl on July 25, 2004, at 2:53:44
Oh LG, you sound so defeated. Don't give up yet, girl. Your world is just beginning to open for you. Remember that it's not a PERFECT world (darn!!), and stupid ole human resource geeks will not recognize your amazing abilites.
But you have just earned your incredible degree (and WELL earned, might I say!), and you actually DO have a good advantage in that you're a female in a man's profession. I was hired once in California because I was CANADIAN....it helped their quota for minorities!!! LOL!!!
I am really so proud of you, LG. You plodded through a lot of your own personal difficulties to achieve your new letters behind your name (WooHOO!!!), and your new world is only JUST beginning. Keep your head high, honey. It won't be too much longer, I'm sure. Those stupid ole geeks will rue the day they didn't hire LG, right?? ((((LG)))))
Sandy
Posted by gardenergirl on July 25, 2004, at 16:01:35
In reply to Re: For LonelyGirl » lonelygirl, posted by SandyWeb on July 25, 2004, at 9:16:04
Yes, there will be some serious rue-age going on!
Take care,
gg
Posted by lonelygirl on July 27, 2004, at 9:27:03
In reply to Re: For LonelyGirl, posted by lonelygirl on July 25, 2004, at 2:53:44
Got the e-mail this morning. I hate how they say stupid crap about how they were "impressed" with my skills and interviews but they've "decided to pursue other candidates". Why can't they just give it to me straight and tell me they hate me and wish they hadn't wasted their time interviewing me? Obviously they weren't that impressed with anything. I must have been the first candidate eliminated -- they took about half the time they said they would to decide.
Posted by gardenergirl on July 27, 2004, at 10:08:36
In reply to Officially rejected, posted by lonelygirl on July 27, 2004, at 9:27:03
Oh sweetie. I'm so sorry. I know how much rejection hurts. But you know, I doubt that the timing of the letter has anything to do with you personally. Perhaps they gave a longer time to get back to you just to cover in case they didn't get all the interviews done.
And I know they don't hate you! How could they? Frankly, I believe it's impossible to hate someone in such a short time. There are a lot of people looking for work. Perhaps they found someone with better qualifications or experience? It's hard being a new grad these days.
Good luck with preparing for the EIT. My hubby is getting his stuff together for the PE and will be taking a refresher course in a few weeks.
(((((lonelygirl))))))
gg
Posted by Raindancer on July 27, 2004, at 10:48:30
In reply to Officially rejected, posted by lonelygirl on July 27, 2004, at 9:27:03
Hello Lonelygirl, so sorry about the email. They always sound so cold and unhelpful don't they? Why don't you mail them back and ask if they could give any pointers to why you weren't successful that might help you in future applications? This shows that you're not taking it lying down, that you've got lots of courage and that you've got spirit enough to take the fight elsewhere!! They might well regret their first decision and I bet they certainly would if they knew you properly. Which they don't ........ Take it that this one isn't meant to be and go on to the next with a hopeful heart. Frederick Forsyth (I used to work with him ages and ages ago) had "The Day of the Jackal", his first novel, rejected 35 times before it was accepted - I would have given up long before, but it just shows that it pays to keep at it!
All the best of everything. I think you're great. Take care and please let us know how you're getting on. Hugs.
Raindancer
Posted by TofuEmmy on July 27, 2004, at 11:06:08
In reply to Officially rejected, posted by lonelygirl on July 27, 2004, at 9:27:03
When I first graduated, I started a scrapbook of rejection letters. Actually, at first I was going to frame them, but then I quickly realized there would be too many (back then there were no Dollar Stores to buy frames in). So I started the scrapbook. I'm quite sure I still have it somewhere. Eventually I did get a job. Starting salary as I recall was $8,750. :-) Ok, this was a few years ago.
The economy sucks hon, not you. It's a tough time to be looking for work. I promise that you WILL find a job. Start a scrapbook and leave room for that last page with the acceptance letter. Hopefully your salary will be larger than mine was. Em
Posted by pegasus on July 27, 2004, at 14:48:16
In reply to Officially rejected, posted by lonelygirl on July 27, 2004, at 9:27:03
I'm so sorry. Official rejection is not a great thing. It must be hard to deal with, when you're already feeling down. I hope you'll keep posting, though, and let us help you, if our replies help.
Would you really have preferred to get a letter saying that they didn't like you? Personally, that would be pretty hard for me to take. I much prefer the polite dismissal. But of course, I much prefer just getting the job. And I hope you will have that pleasure soon.
pegasus
Posted by Dinah on July 27, 2004, at 15:02:20
In reply to Officially rejected, posted by lonelygirl on July 27, 2004, at 9:27:03
My husband is brilliant, graduated with honors, has great people skills, and has gotten fabulous reviews from day one.
He applied for forty jobs and was only offered one. The one where he still works and the one that prizes him so highly. All it takes is one acceptance, and it might take a while.
The thirtynine rejections didn't mean my husband was bad in any way. It just meant that there were thirtynine human resources people who didn't recognize what an asset he would be.
Posted by zenhussy on July 28, 2004, at 2:59:50
In reply to Officially rejected, posted by lonelygirl on July 27, 2004, at 9:27:03
> Got the e-mail this morning. I hate how they say stupid crap about how they were "impressed" with my skills and interviews but they've "decided to pursue other candidates". Why can't they just give it to me straight and tell me they hate me and wish they hadn't wasted their time interviewing me? Obviously they weren't that impressed with anything. I must have been the first candidate eliminated -- they took about half the time they said they would to decide.
Sweetie,It is demoralizing interviewing and receiving such crappy rejection letters. But from what people have written here is that it is *common* and not something to do with *you*.
You just went through an icky process but chalk it up to experience and try to see it as how the company lost out on you and not how they didn't choose you.
Any company not hiring someone like yourself with your degree is missing out. It might take some time to find a position that is right for you but I'm willing to bet the time is worth it.
You're on the job hunt. A hunt! Grab your pith helmet and a spear and keep hunting.
I believe in your ability to continue forward just as you did through school and graduation.
--zh
Posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2004, at 14:36:11
In reply to Re: Officially rejected » lonelygirl, posted by Raindancer on July 27, 2004, at 10:48:30
>Why don't you mail them back and ask if they could give any pointers to why you weren't successful that might help you in future applications? >
This is really good advice. I've done it and found out the thing they didn't like was the salary I wanted. They actually hired someone for less than I was already making. But its good to find out these things. I'm working, but I've been searching for a new job since Nov of last year. By this I mean sending out resumes to every want ad I can in my profession, both online and in the paper, at least every week or so. I've probably sent out 1000 resumes. Out of those I've gotten 6 responses and only one actual interview. I've talked to other people who are having the same problem. It really is the economy. So just stay strong and keep on sending those resumes. Good luck!
Posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2004, at 15:50:23
In reply to Re: Officially rejected » Raindancer, posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2004, at 14:36:11
Posted by lonelygirl on July 29, 2004, at 16:33:57
In reply to Re: Officially rejected » Raindancer, posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2004, at 14:36:11
I wrote back to HR guy. I used a template I found on the web for a response to a rejection letter:
Dear Mr. HR Guy,
Thank you for your letter of July 27. After careful consideration, I regret to inform you that I am unable to accept your refusal to offer me a Process Engineer position at your company.
This year I have been particularly fortunate in receiving an unusually large number of rejection letters. With such a varied and promising field of candidates it is impossible for me to accept all refusals.
Despite your company's outstanding qualifications and previous experience in rejecting applicants, I find that your rejection does not meet my needs at this time. Therefore, I will assume the position of Process Engineer this August. I look forward to seeing you then.
Best of luck in rejecting future applicants.
Sincerely,
lonelygirl
Posted by gardenergirl on July 29, 2004, at 17:14:17
In reply to Response Letter, posted by lonelygirl on July 29, 2004, at 16:33:57
Posted by Pfinstegg on August 1, 2004, at 23:13:32
In reply to Response Letter, posted by lonelygirl on July 29, 2004, at 16:33:57
What a delightful, clever letter! Did you really send it? If I got one of those, I would realize I 'd made a big mistake- I'd telephone and HIRE you on the spot!
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