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Posted by tabitha on December 31, 2003, at 23:05:22
In reply to Happy almost New Year., posted by kara lynne on December 31, 2003, at 15:02:50
Happy New Year's, everyone.
I'm dressed, I'm groomed, I'm pleasantly scented. Trying to work up courage to go to a New Year's Eve event ALONE. Yipes, better just go get in the car now before I lose heart. It's just a meditation service at my church. Should be safe enough, right?
Posted by shar on December 31, 2003, at 23:11:30
In reply to Re: Happy 2004, posted by tabitha on December 31, 2003, at 23:05:22
Posted by kara lynne on January 1, 2004, at 3:22:06
In reply to Re: Happy 2004, posted by tabitha on December 31, 2003, at 23:05:22
I went to a meditation (also pleasantly scented). Then I got stopped by a cop on the way home and given a warning for almost running a red light. It was a fine way to segue from a triumphant end to 2003. Why couldn't he have focused on all the GOOD things I did today instead of the ONE bad thing? Somebody ought to talk to these guys.
Posted by Elle2021 on January 1, 2004, at 4:10:57
In reply to Re: And a Twilight Zone Marathon on television! » Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on December 31, 2003, at 16:57:02
> (I don't like clowns)
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> Me neither!! My mother still pokes fun at me for it... Ick! Something about them is just wrong. They honestly scare me. Robots too, and dinosaurs (but I have a good reason for that)..I don't like robots either! Dinosaurs I don't mind. But those robots, ugh!! I think I have seen too many old sci-fi movies where the robots are evil! Scary. :)
Elle
Posted by Karen_kay on January 1, 2004, at 10:25:04
In reply to Re: And a Twilight Zone Marathon on television! » Karen_kay, posted by Elle2021 on January 1, 2004, at 4:10:57
Finally! Someone else who doesn't like robots. But, are you scared of them, or do you just dislike them? My mother has a robot vacuum and I just about pooped my pants when I saw it. I'm not quite sure when the fear developed, but I'm in no hurry to get over it either. I don't come into contact with them on a daily basis or anything, so it doesn't have a huge impact on my life. Mainly when I watch them on movies, or when I see my mom use one to vacuum. Ick. And factories! I couldn't work in one again.
And the dinosaur thing came about because I was having a dream that a dinosaur was chasing me and my alarm clock went off at the same time. So, now I associate the sound of a dinosaur with the sound of an alarm clock. I still get spooked every morning when the alarm clock goes off. I usually wake up before the alarm now, but if I don't I start shaking. What a way to start the day!
Posted by jay on January 1, 2004, at 21:41:26
In reply to *raises her magarita to you*, posted by NikkiT2 on December 31, 2003, at 17:17:06
Yeeehaaa!..lol. I went to a bar with a buddy a few nights ago, and I couldn't get *any* frozen drinks! So, I opted for my next fav, which was Bailey's on the rocks with cream-milk. Geezz...now I feel like going to the store and getting some cream, as I have Bailey's downstairs. :-)
Jay
Posted by Emme on January 1, 2004, at 23:58:10
In reply to Happy almost New Year., posted by kara lynne on December 31, 2003, at 15:02:50
Hey Kara Lynne,
I haven't been following as many threads as I'd like - my brain runs out of steam so easily - so I haven't written to you in a while. I just wanted to pop in and say that I hope 2004 brings you good things!
Emme
Posted by Elle2021 on January 2, 2004, at 8:30:36
In reply to Re: And a Twilight Zone Marathon on television! » Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on January 1, 2004, at 10:25:04
> Finally! Someone else who doesn't like robots. But, are you scared of them, or do you just dislike them?
I really don't like them. I have seen so many movies where they "come to life," that they just plain scare me now. I know that seems really childish, but oh well. I avoid the oldish B movies where the robots are evil.
I am really TERRIFIED of spiders. It is my most crippling phobia. My pdoc has tried to help me with it, but it just doesn't work. He suggested hynotism, but I said no. I'm not comfortable with that. One time I found one in my car, and I couldn't drive it again for 2 weeks. Ugh, it's awful.
Elle
Posted by Karen_kay on January 2, 2004, at 10:03:17
In reply to Re: And a Twilight Zone Marathon on television! » Karen_kay, posted by Elle2021 on January 2, 2004, at 8:30:36
Are you sure you're not me? I once had a spider on my shoulder and I fell down on the ground and couldn't move. My friend was with me and just laughed. They scare the crap out of me! They are just horrible creature. Why they are here is beyond me. Horrible, Horrible, Horrible...
Posted by Jai Narayan on January 2, 2004, at 10:14:20
In reply to OMG! Spiders! » Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on January 2, 2004, at 10:03:17
> Are you sure you're not me? I once had a spider on my shoulder and I fell down on the ground and couldn't move. My friend was with me and just laughed. They scare the crap out of me! They are just horrible creature. Why they are here is beyond me. Horrible, Horrible, Horrible...
<I had a terror of spiders most of my life. I did EMDR and I not longer have that terror....I can't believe it! I have had to deal with spiders since and I'm not terrified anymore.
I never thought that would go away.
Have you seen "Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King" yet? There is a really intense scene with a huge spirder...I know that would have sent me to the bathroom in the past. I just watched it in awe. I guess somethings can be changed.
Posted by Emme on January 3, 2004, at 10:32:32
In reply to Re: OMG! Spiders!, posted by Jai Narayan on January 2, 2004, at 10:14:20
Spiders. Ugh. I once saw a scanning electron microscope picture of one someone left lying around the lab. All I can say is EEEWWWWWWW. And ticks. ticks ticks ticks. Nasty horrible things. At least spiders eat bugs. WHAT do ticks do? WHY are they here? They are evil. They latch onto you. Like eight-legged mini-vampires. Like a bad houseguest. Like terrestrial lamprey fish. And they're damn tough to kill. Utterly freaks me out anytime I get one. And they always go for places you can't easily reach to yank them out. DEET's good, but it's no guarantee they won't getcha. Then there's bugs. Exoskeletons. Creep me out. Okay, I'm not up to phobia range with these things, but I hate 'em bad. Gimme a nice smooth garter snake any day. Or a nice hoppy frog or toad. Those are very cute. And they eat bugs. Does anything eat ticks?
Posted by Karen_kay on January 3, 2004, at 21:16:37
In reply to Ewwww....arachnids bugs, posted by Emme on January 3, 2004, at 10:32:32
Does anything eat ticks?
*My dog eats eats them if I don't get them away from him fast enough. But, my boyfriend worked a dig over the summer for a class and he ate a clove of garlic every morning before going to work outside. It worked too! He never got a single bug bite. He doesn't use Deet because it can be harmful. If you can stomach the clove of garlic it should work. I guess the caplets don't work like the actual clove. But even the mosquitos didn't touch him!! And he was outside for 10 hours digging in the hot sun (AND HE ENJOYED IT!!! go figure!)
Posted by Emme on January 3, 2004, at 22:37:48
In reply to Clove of garlic keeps the bugs away! » Emme, posted by Karen_kay on January 3, 2004, at 21:16:37
> Does anything eat ticks?
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> *My dog eats eats them if I don't get them away from him fast enough.LOL.
> But, my boyfriend worked a dig over the summer for a class and he ate a clove of garlic every morning before going to work outside. It worked too! He never got a single bug bite.
So that's the secret. I've been bug bait my entire life. And I have had to do lots of field work. Your boyfriend is an archeologist maybe? I'm in the earth sciences. My last field site was crawling with ticks. (shudder)
> He doesn't use Deet because it can be harmful.
During my undergrad summer field course we used Muskol (100% deet). We dabbed it gently on clothes and hats and the occasional body part. If I give birth to children with 3 eyes, I'll know what to blame. Nice to find a way to not use it.
I'm a garlic wimp. I'll look at the capsules.> And he was outside for 10 hours digging in the hot sun (AND HE ENJOYED IT!!! go figure!)
:) I can relate to the digging. There are times when I miss doing field work. Except when the weather's bad or the bugs are bad!
Posted by Karen_kay on January 3, 2004, at 23:47:08
In reply to Re: Clove of garlic keeps the bugs away! » Karen_kay, posted by Emme on January 3, 2004, at 22:37:48
His major was archeology or anthropology. Not sure which. I can't keep them straight. I'm not really interested in either topic much, so I don't need to know which is which. He graduated from Indiana University, which is a pretty good school. But, there really isn't much work in Indiana for the field.
I'm a telecommunications major. I guess it's a "hot major" right now (whodathunkit?) but again, not much work in Indiana!
So, after I graduate we are planning to work for a few years and haul it to California to "make it big!"
As for the garlic, my boyfriend's the biggest wimp I've ever seen! He used to hold his nose to eat the garlic. Just chew it fast and wash it down with orange juice. It really worked for him. I don't think the capsules work, or don't work as well, or he would have taken them. He whined every morning when he had to eat it.
He really liked the digging part too. Taking his lunch, getting caught in the rain, panning through the dirt. Yuck.. I'll stick with my trusty camera any day! I remember the stories he used to tell about his instructor though! The man used to pull the van over to pick up road kill! Seems he knew how to prepare road kill and on the last day they even had squirrel chili. Ick. Andy tried it. He said it wasn't that bad. And this is from a boy who won't eat a medium well steak, it has to be well done. I guess he thinks he's a cowboy now or something?? Or maybe the heat got to him? Possibly someone sprayed him with a Deet product? I have no clue.. He sure is strange sometimes but he buys me things so I'll keep him around for a while, if he continues to work :) (I AM JUST KIDDING YOU KNOW!!)
Posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 0:41:28
In reply to OMG! Spiders! » Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on January 2, 2004, at 10:03:17
> Are you sure you're not me?
Hehe, could be... jk
I once had a spider on my shoulder and I fell down on the ground and couldn't move. My friend was with me and just laughed.
Don't you hate it when other people think you are being childish or even worse, doing it for attention. I guarantee I am NOT doing it for the attention. I am genuinely scared. Three weeks ago a BIG one ran across the loveseat in the living room. I am JUST now feeling a little more comfortable about sitting on it again. Ahh.
Posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 0:44:01
In reply to Re: OMG! Spiders!, posted by Jai Narayan on January 2, 2004, at 10:14:20
<I had a terror of spiders most of my life. I did EMDR and I not longer have that terror....I can't believe it! I have had to deal with spiders since and I'm not terrified anymore.
I wish I could do that. What is EMDR? Is it like Exposure Response Therapy? I can imagine sitting next to a spider or something. I'm getting uneasy just writing about it!
> Have you seen "Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King" yet?
No, thats one movie I won't be watching! And thank you for mentioning the spider. Thats one less nightmare I can be without! :)
Elle
Posted by Karen_kay on January 4, 2004, at 0:56:48
In reply to Re: OMG! Spiders! » Karen_kay, posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 0:41:28
Hehe, could be... jk
*Are you hitting on me? :) jk (Or am I? Guess you'll never know..)
My friend knew I wasn't kidding. That's just how we are. We are horrible to one another. Once she wasn't completely in my car and I didn't know it and I ended up dragging her about half a block. She finally spoke up and all I could say was "Well next time hurry your slow a** up." That was my way of saying I'm sorry and she knew it. If she had tried to touch me to remove the horrible creature I would have freaked out and she knew it. And I'm quite certain I looked rather funny throwing such a huge fit in the middle of the park. I mean no one else knew what was wrong and all of the sudden I was just screaming and cursing and rolling on the ground. I'm sure it was rather fascinating to the viewer. I only wish I could see it on tape, (of course without the spider). I can't really blame her for laughing. I laugh at her when she falls down, so I suppose I'll let this one go. But, I must admit this was a terrifying situation.
What gets me is the fact that I can't step on teh blasted creatures. For some reason I think that they are able to climb through my shoe or something. I mean I know rationally that they can't. Yet, I still am unable to step on them. I can't smash them with books. I jsut have this fear that they can actually somehow not be smashed and be able to crawl through teh shoe or book. WHY?????? They shouldn't be able to live........
Posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 1:29:46
In reply to Re: OMG! Spiders! » Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on January 4, 2004, at 0:56:48
My best friend and former roommate is the same way as me when it comes to spiders. And me and her are very much like you and your friend. We would laugh at each other any time one of us would do something embarrassing in public. She always wears these tall, chunky shoes that she can't walk in, so it is inevitable that she will trip at least once or twice while we are walking together. And everytime she does, I just laugh and laugh! She's too tall anyway, like 5'8". I'm only 5'1"!
> What gets me is the fact that I can't step on teh blasted creatures.
Me neither!!! I stepped on one ONE time, and I felt like I could feel it through my shoe on the ball of my foot. It was so nasty. So, IF I get brave and I can't find anyone else to kill it for me, I get someone elses shoe (NOT my own) and kill it...and that spider gets overkill. I make sure it isn't coming back to life to crawl on me!
Elle
Posted by Karen_kay on January 4, 2004, at 2:25:17
In reply to Re: OMG! Spiders! » Karen_kay, posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 1:29:46
She's too tall anyway, like 5'8". I'm only 5'1"!
Ok, you're my friend.. She's like 5'3 .. I'm the tall one who wears the big shoes and is clumbsy... Crap... You found out my secret! Petty, is that you? That's my best friend. Only, she's not afraid of spiders. Aliens, yes spiders, no. Clowns, yes!! Even worse than I am! And she has BLEACH blonde hair, almost white.
As for the overkill thing with spiders.... You have to be sure they are dead. Nothing is worse than lifting up that shoe and seeing that stupid thing still moving. ICK! I prefer to just leave the shoe on top of it. Also, it helps to leave something heavy on top of the shoe, like a coffee table. Times like this I almost wish I had a robot, or a manly boyfriend. He helps with the spiders, but he saves them. Darn hippie! For some reason he thinks they are "good for the environment" or that they deserve to live or something like that. Goodness! He'd change his tune fast if I decided to stop doing laundry or cleaning the house....
Posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 2:48:01
In reply to OK, so you're not me... » Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on January 4, 2004, at 2:25:17
> Ok, you're my friend.. She's like 5'3 .. I'm the tall one who wears the big shoes...
Are they like 5 inches tall? Always made me look even shorter standing next to her with those tall shoes of hers!
>Petty, is that you?
No, it's just me! :)
>Only, she's not afraid of spiders.
Lucky her!
> As for the overkill thing with spiders.... You have to be sure they are dead. Nothing is worse than lifting up that shoe and seeing that stupid thing still moving.
That is so true isn't it. The legs always move and that just terrifies me even more!!!!
Also, it helps to leave something heavy on top of the shoe, like a coffee table.
Hehehehehehehe!!!!
He helps with the spiders, but he saves them.
Sounds like my aunt. She doesn't even put them outside! She lets them stay in the HOUSE. You can pretty much guess I don't go to her house very often.
Elle :)
Posted by fallsfall on January 4, 2004, at 10:24:01
In reply to Re: OK, so you're not me... » Karen_kay, posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 2:48:01
I resisted joining this thread for a long time... But now is the time. I have 3 spider "stories".
1. When I was maybe 5 years old I went into my bathroom (the one I had used since we moved there 4 years ago), pulled my pants down and started to sit. There was a Daddy Longlegs on the toilet seat. I almost sat on it. I HATE Daddy Longlegs - even more than "normal" spiders. Fortunately, I decided that the Daddy Longlegs was the problem and not the toilet. It would be hard to live without the toilet...
2. My two daughters have gone to Girl Scout camp for years (of course, I did too...). My oldest has been a counselor. When there is a spider in my house I call one of them and they rescue me.
3. I was the children's librarian at my local library and I started a Bedtime Storytime in the summer. Once a week the kids arrived in their pajamas and carrying their stuffed animals. I read stories, we sang and did the hand motion thing. At the end, I did a song with a large (12 inch) spider puppet. Raffi sings the song, too. I got a volunteer and the child and my puppet acted out the song.
There's a Spider on the Floor
(to the tune of If You're Happy and You Know It)There's a spider on the floor, on the floor.
There's a spider on the floor, on the floor.
Who could ask for any more,
Than a spider on the floor?There's a spider on my leg, on my leg.
There's a spider on my leg, on my leg.
Oh it's really really big,
This old spider on my leg.
There's a spider on my leg, on my leg.Now the spider's on my stomach, on my stomach.
Now the spider's on my stomach, on my stomach.
Oh he's just a dumb old lummock,
This old spider on my stomach.
Now the spider's on my stomach, on my stomach.Now the spider's on my head, on my head.
Now the spider's on my head, on my head.
Oh I wish that I were dead,
I've got a spider on my head.
Now the spider's on my head, on my head.And he jumps off!!!
Now there's a spider on the floor, on the floor.
(Continue all you want.)They loved it.
Posted by Karen_kay on January 4, 2004, at 19:15:05
In reply to Re: OK, so you're not me... » Karen_kay, posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 2:48:01
Yes, they are like 5 inches tall. And I'm like 5' 9 without shoes so she gets mad when I wear tall shoes. Especially because I always call her short (well, she is!!).
Why do spiders' legs twitch like that when you kill them anyway? It's bad enough that I'm terrified of them. They're tiny and I could smash them easily but they still move after I smash them with all of my force. They're just plain gross. And my boyfriend seems to think it is funny to hold one in my face before he takes it outside. He's just wrong! But, I like to stand in the dark hallway and startle him when he doesn't expect it! He screams like a little girl! I can be mean too >)
Another thing that frightens me is the drive thru car wash. I just figured that one out a month ago. I almost jumped out of the car. I almost had a panic attack.
Why would your aunt keep them in the house? Does she not realize they could jump into bed with her??? Is she OK, all there, ect? Ick, I couldn't go to her house. No way!
Posted by Jai Narayan on January 4, 2004, at 20:40:08
In reply to Re: OMG! Spiders! » Jai Narayan, posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 0:44:01
EMDR is "bilateral stimulation". Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing is what the EMDR means. It's good for phobias, eating disorders, memories of sexual abuse and post-traumatic stress.
This therapy was created by Francine Shapiro. She was walking in a park while trying to overcome her own stress when she realized that her fears seemed to diminish as she looked from side to side at the scenery around her. Her subsequent experiments showed that others reacted the same way, and a formal controlled study also showed that the technique had therapeutic value.
It was orginally used for treating Vietnam War veterans with post traumatic stess disorder.
Sometimes the technique can bring about marked improvement in only one or two sessions.
I went to my EMDR therapist for 1 year and worked out so many problems that I feel like a new person. I am so unemcumberded by the old stresses that my personal vibrations are more mellow. Very mellow. I was hyper....very hyper vigilant. It was my gift to myself. To become who I really am not who all the horrible experiences could have made me be.
So I am happier and healthier and more easy about myself. I am so glad you asked.
Posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 21:45:02
In reply to Re: OK, so you're not me... » Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on January 4, 2004, at 19:15:05
> Why do spiders' legs twitch like that when you kill them anyway?
I do not know! But I find that they are good fakers too. Like, when you step on them, they curl into a ball and fake like they are dead. Then when you go to pick them up with a VERY thick (several sheets) of papertowels, THEY TRY TO RUN! Scares me everytime. But, I have grown wise to their antics. I make sure that thing is smashed before I go near it. And I look for any of it's friends that might be with him.
And my boyfriend seems to think it is funny to hold one in my face before he takes it outside.
Yes, my dad does that and thinks it's just hilarious.
> Another thing that frightens me is the drive thru car wash. I just figured that one out a month ago. I almost jumped out of the car. I almost had a panic attack.
That scared me the first time I went through one, but I can't say it bothers me now.
Yet another serious phobia of mine is heights. I can't even begin to explain it. I used to live in an apartment that had a balcony. I'm telling you, I barely EVER went out there, and I was only on the second story... :(> Why would your aunt keep them in the house? Does she not realize they could jump into bed with her??? Is she OK, all there, ect? Ick, I couldn't go to her house. No way!
No, I'm not sure everything is okay with her. I told my pdoc about her and he thought that she should see a doctor about it. Yes, she knows they could jump into bed with her, but it doesn't bother her. One time she said she woke up with one on her head. OH MY! I think I would have cried and been hysterical for days if that had happened to me. I can't even watch spiders on tv or look at them in books or magazines. Maybe I really should take up my pdoc on his offer to "cure" me of this.
Elle
Posted by Elle2021 on January 4, 2004, at 21:46:46
In reply to My Spider stories, posted by fallsfall on January 4, 2004, at 10:24:01
> 1. When I was maybe 5 years old I went into my bathroom...
Why are they always in the bathroom?? I always find one in the shower ever now and then. Makes me shiver!
Elle
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