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Posted by kara lynne on September 8, 2003, at 19:17:19
In reply to re: never call him » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on September 8, 2003, at 18:01:48
I am constructing a letter. It is extremely difficult, and makes me think I won't be able to survive a final separation. I will update you later. Thank you for all your support.
Posted by fallsfall on September 8, 2003, at 19:47:28
In reply to fallsfall, posted by kara lynne on September 8, 2003, at 19:17:19
Posted by lil' jimi on September 8, 2003, at 19:56:45
In reply to I'll be here waiting (((((Kara))))) (nm), posted by fallsfall on September 8, 2003, at 19:47:28
Posted by Sabina on September 10, 2003, at 3:20:25
In reply to We're all looking for KL..., posted by chicklet on September 6, 2003, at 20:29:38
Posted by chicklet on September 10, 2003, at 10:30:41
In reply to Re: I'm all, like, looking for Chicklet (nm) » chicklet, posted by Sabina on September 10, 2003, at 3:20:25
Posted by lil' jimi on September 10, 2003, at 11:39:06
In reply to Thanks Sabeaner, I'm around! (nm), posted by chicklet on September 10, 2003, at 10:30:41
Posted by lil' jimi on September 10, 2003, at 11:42:34
In reply to ROLL CALL ! ... unless you're not in the mood ... (nm), posted by lil' jimi on September 10, 2003, at 11:39:06
Posted by kara lynne on September 10, 2003, at 13:53:16
In reply to fallsfall, posted by kara lynne on September 8, 2003, at 19:17:19
Hi fallsfall,
I've been working on 'the letter'. I think it's making me physically sick--yesterday I could hardly function. I went to therapy and felt much worse about myself--I don't think that's the way it should be going and I do plan to talk to him about it next week. I realized later that the missing element is that I don't feel cared for by him--just 'let's get down to work' and then my resistence comes up because I want to feel loved first. Maybe that's stupid, but maybe I need another kind of therapy. I *don't* want to be coddled, just...seen and appreciated. Ok, this belongs on other-babble, so I'll stop here.
Posted by fallsfall on September 10, 2003, at 15:29:55
In reply to Re: fallsfall, posted by kara lynne on September 10, 2003, at 13:53:16
I answered you on the other Babble ((((Kara))))
Posted by kara lynne on September 11, 2003, at 19:06:26
In reply to Re: fallsfall » kara lynne, posted by fallsfall on September 10, 2003, at 15:29:55
I'm still shaking. It's kind of long so I'm not sure whether to post it here for you to read or not. I just wanted you to know you were the impetus for my taking this step. When I first read your email my heart sank at the idea of having to make that final cut. Then I went for counseling, fully intending that the counselor agree that for the time being I could continue to do what I have been-- nothing. That had been alright because it was the only way I could protect myself from becoming involved with him again--I was too succeptible. I still feel succeptible, but I guess it was time to push forward. The counselor agreed it was time for the letter, and helped me start it. Writing it sent me back into all that abandonment again, and of course I had to confront the inevitable futility of ever working anything out with him. Although I agonized over it--and it was hardly perfect-- I finally just had to send it anyway.
Here comes the waiting for the response. I'm not sure how I want to handle that yet. I don't think I'm strong enough to delete it before reading it.
Just wanted to let you know.
Posted by fallsfall on September 11, 2003, at 22:37:33
In reply to Re: fallsfall/ I SENT the letter!, posted by kara lynne on September 11, 2003, at 19:06:26
Kara,
I've been thinking about you and wondering how you were doing.
I am **so** proud of you.
What a hard thing for you to do. Now you need to stand strong and know that you have said what is right for you and what needed to be said.
>>I had to confront the inevitable futility of ever working anything out with him.
Keep that in mind.
You are such a sweet and caring person. The world must be holding a special place for you. A place where you can be safe and happy.
YOU GO, GIRL!!!!!
I am proud of you.
P.S. If you wanted to send a copy of the letter, you can send it to Babble Fallsfall at hotmail.com
Posted by kara lynne on September 12, 2003, at 2:25:20
In reply to Re: fallsfall/ I SENT the letter! » kara lynne, posted by fallsfall on September 11, 2003, at 22:37:33
Ok, but then I will be really upset that you didn't edit it for me first. And probably embarassed, but you'll just have to be forgiving.
Posted by fallsfall on September 12, 2003, at 7:07:31
In reply to Re: fallsfall/ I SENT the letter!, posted by kara lynne on September 12, 2003, at 2:25:20
It comes from your heart. It will be perfect. I only edit letters when I think the writer wants comments. You don't (except that you are very brave). That's fine. I know you worked long and hard on that letter so that it could say what you needed to say.
P.S. You don't have to send it if you don't want to.
Posted by kara lynne on September 12, 2003, at 11:51:44
In reply to Re: fallsfall/ I SENT the letter! » kara lynne, posted by fallsfall on September 12, 2003, at 7:07:31
No, I want to. It's just that I keep thinking of more things I wanted to say and better ways to say what I did. Actually I would have loved for you to edit it first, but I felt like if I waited any longer I wouldn't have sent it--plus I didn't consider that I could have sent it to you first! I hate that about writing. For me it takes endless rewrites to say something well, but I don't always have the luxury of waiting for the brilliance.
Posted by fallsfall on September 12, 2003, at 14:13:19
In reply to Re: fallsfall/ I SENT the letter!, posted by kara lynne on September 12, 2003, at 11:51:44
All that matters is that you said *enough*, or even that you started a conversation in the right direction. Perfection is not needed. Humanness is needed.
Posted by kara lynne on September 13, 2003, at 14:43:11
In reply to Re: fallsfall/ I SENT the letter! » kara lynne, posted by fallsfall on September 12, 2003, at 14:13:19
Hi fallsfall.
I don't know why I'm regretting sending the letter. I made the mistake of showing it to a friend yesterday who said I just sounded hurt in it. I guess she wanted me to 'sock it to him' a bit more. I did sound hurt in the letter; in fact I described exactly how hurt I was and why that would prevent me from being able to see him. Maybe it was the wrong approach, I'm not sure. Obviously he has minimized any hurt he's caused me, and I'm sure he's not about to see things any differently. And I do wish I had included a couple of more important things, but I guess I could write more if I wanted to. It's just that it takes so much blood sweat and tears.Well at least I've said something for now, I guess. At least he's not expecting me to pick up the phone and go to coffee with him anytime soon.
Big sigh.
Posted by fallsfall on September 13, 2003, at 16:52:02
In reply to fallsfall/ regret, posted by kara lynne on September 13, 2003, at 14:43:11
Kara,
You said what you wanted to say to him. That's what is important. If you want to say something else later on, then you can do that later. Nobody has to "approve" of what you say to someone else. The fact that you haven't heard from him since sending it is a really good sign. That means that you were clear that you don't want to talk to him. Wasn't that your goal? So you did well.
Eat ice cream
Posted by lil' jimi on September 13, 2003, at 20:34:05
In reply to fallsfall/ regret, posted by kara lynne on September 13, 2003, at 14:43:11
bless you sweet Kara Kara ....
... ... (((((((KARA))))))) ... ...love,
~ jim
Posted by kara lynne on September 14, 2003, at 16:09:45
In reply to re: fallsfall/ regret » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on September 13, 2003, at 20:34:05
Thank you so much.
Posted by kara lynne on September 15, 2003, at 13:49:34
In reply to (((((jimi))))), posted by kara lynne on September 14, 2003, at 16:09:45
Jimi! I need you! Come forth and spread some of that jimi joy! Let me hear from a good, kind man that there is hope for the women of the world...
Posted by lil' jimi on September 15, 2003, at 16:38:22
In reply to Where's my jimi?, posted by kara lynne on September 15, 2003, at 13:49:34
hellooooooo .....
> Jimi! I need you! Come forth and spread some of that jimi joy! Let me hear from a good, kind man that there is hope for the women of the world...
what there is, sweet spirit, is Hope... for the men of this world ...
... that they may lift themselves up
... clean themselves off
... reform themselves
... redeem themselves
... exercise the due respect and loyalty
... accord the appropriate admiration, adulation and worship
... present themselves to be judged whether worthy... ... then if they pray real hard ... pray to you ...
... pray to you our sweet Goddess of Self-Determination and Composure ...
... if they pray good enough to you fair Empress of Justice ...... then they just might be granted the chance to have their actions judged whether they are honest, kind, reliable, consistent and stable ...
... then they must hope you like them ...
that, oh great Angel of Experience, is and shall ever be the one true and Only Hope for the men of this world ...
... they would be blessed to be discarded by you
... ... like so much tissue paper!
... ... There!the women of this world?
their hope is that they are your friend ...
or can be your friend ...
or a friend of one of your friends ...
and that you'll allow them your castoffs ...... because you _are_ a _kind_ Goddess ...
... ... whenever you need me i shall come here
... ... whereever you want me to be, i shall go there
... oh sweet Queen of Goddesses !bliss!
~ jimp.s. any more questions?
Posted by kara lynne on September 15, 2003, at 18:09:58
In reply to re: Where's my jimi? » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on September 15, 2003, at 16:38:22
I do love you.
You make me have to use all that tissue paper to wipe my tears before I discard it with the current cad in my life.
Posted by gabbix2 on September 15, 2003, at 18:56:44
In reply to re: Where's my jimi? » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on September 15, 2003, at 16:38:22
Thank you Jimi for giving Kara lynne the respect and honor which she deserves, and for looking out for her. She's a jewel.
Posted by lil' jimi on September 15, 2003, at 19:50:56
In reply to May I just say, posted by kara lynne on September 15, 2003, at 18:09:58
my Worship <i bow>,
> I do love you.
>
> You make me have to use all that tissue paper to wipe my tears before I discard it with the current cad in my life.... Your Holiness may sayeth as thoust just see-eth fitst
... for good Gosh Sakes, You're a Goddess ... !
... just lay it on me Momma !!!
... er, i mean,
... Holy Mother of Pure Land Kara-osity !!!thou art way too dang good for the mere mortal men on this stink hole planet, Babe!!
they may only seek to worship you well ...with thy Blessings,
your humble servant,
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on September 15, 2003, at 20:58:20
In reply to May I just say... » lil' jimi, posted by gabbix2 on September 15, 2003, at 18:56:44
> Thank you Jimi for giving Kara lynne the respect and honor which she deserves, and for looking out for her. She's a jewel. >
... forced to live among clods (boys) of dirt !!
... and jewels pale in the shadow of her brilliance!!.... she's a good person and i love her and want her to love kara kara the way we love Kara Kara...
... but heckfire, i only post 'em the way i sees 'em ... ... !
~ jim
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