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Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 19:19:30
In reply to Back from therapy!, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 18:34:38
hi kara lynnne!
you're back from "Therapy":
> And so happy to find you guys here. And the above post (f you were referring to mine) was for either or both of you.
>
> I wish meds worked for me. I've been trying over 10 years now. Surely they will come up with something soon....
>
> Meanwhile, I'm not so sure about this therapy. It was the kind of confrontive in your face thing today--where he played back my patterns with dramatic intensity as if that would do anything but shame me. Then he said my issues with men would lead me to distrust him--leaving me severely psychobabbled.
>
> I'm not sure that kind of thing is good for me--right now I'm trying to get over my ex rejecting me for those parts I reject in myself. I am not a denier; my therapist doesn't have to worry about that. I don't need to dwell even more dramatically on my failings.
>
> If leaving me in tears was the goal, he succeeded. He even seemed to be backpedaling for the rest of the session as if he were unsure of how he'd dealt with me--but maybe that's just my imagination. I'll go back next week with renewed wits (!) and try to tell him, maybe give it another chance.
>i love getting the inside on this therapy stuff here, but i must say, i do Not like your therapist ... ... at all ... ... ... glad you're handling it as well as you are .... way to go there.
... (and he calls that "Therapy" ?)> Anyway, it really was nice to come home and find you guys here. I hope you're back and posting soon.
>it's a little after 7 austin time ... .. ... i got off from work about 5 ... ... i and our 4 3/4 year old are here eating our pizza, watching cartoon network ... ...
> What shall we order?
Order? ... What menu may we use ? ... ... i'm a big tipper!
~ jim again
Posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 19:27:04
In reply to re: Back from therapy! » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 19:19:30
This time warp thing sure is a trip.
Four and 3/4 year old? How sweet is that!
I'm not sure at all that I'm going to continue with this 'therapy' the more I think about it. I think pizza would have worked far better.
Meanwhile I have an earache and I decided to wait until after hours to have it start really hurting. Should be a fun night.
What kind of work do you do?
What brand of child do you have? (M, F, neither)
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 19:33:56
In reply to re: The above past life wasn't for me, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 19:07:26
> I'm always saying I'm in the wrong life--or that surely I've had better lifetimes.
>
> Jimi, I just wanted to say I'm so sorry about your parents--I would imagine that's a hard blow no matter how Buddhist you are. What timing--it sure seems like it means something, but who knows what?
>that is exactly the big deal for me .... the "who knows what" part there ... ... almost zen-like weird ...
dad was 83 and mom was a week short of 82 ... ... 2 weeks from their 59th wedding anniversary ... ... my sibs and i had tried to prepare because we could see the inevitablity .... .... could never have expected what happened though
... ... thanks for your kind thoughts sweetie!> I'm sure you will pick up your spiritual journey however you need to do it.
>
> Did you say you're doing well on Lexapro? I've started taking little bits of it again trying to tolerate it.i could be the poster child for lexapro ... ... they should use me in commercials .... .... i am lucky to just stumble into something that works for me ... ... lllluuuucccckkkyyyyyy!
~ jim
Posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 19:37:18
In reply to re: The above past life wasn't for me » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 19:33:56
You *are* lucky!
Gee. You must have done something right in a past life, or something.
Posted by Dinah on August 12, 2003, at 20:33:55
In reply to Back from therapy!, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 18:34:38
ICK!!!
I've heard of that kind of therapy, but the closest I came to it was with a confrontation from the pdoc from heck. And I fired him from my car on the way home.
I hear it works well for many people though. I just don't like people confronting me head on.
Posted by zenhussy on August 12, 2003, at 20:35:17
In reply to re: The above past life wasn't for me » yesac, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 18:49:19
i abuse ibuprofen like a fiend ... ... i take it like a supplement 600 to 800 mg a day most days ... ... i still have good liver function ... ... should i be more concerned, you think ?
~ jim
Yes. You should be concerned.
zenhussy
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 20:39:19
In reply to Life Toons, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 19:27:04
> This time warp thing sure is a trip.
>
> Four and 3/4 year old? How sweet is that!
>it is excellent because there could be no greater blessing.
> I'm not sure at all that I'm going to continue with this 'therapy' the more I think about it. I think pizza would have worked far better.
>have you got options/alternatives for therapists?
> Meanwhile I have an earache and I decided to wait until after hours to have it start really hurting. Should be a fun night.
>as a parent, who has fought the ear-infection fight ... (this is a near epidemic among our little ones nowadays, due to antibiotic overuse) ... and as one who has had a earache from our small hero ... ... let me recommend something ...
... at 800 mg, ibuprofen (motrin) provides good anti-inflammatory effects ... ... as adults we shouldn't get earaches because our eustachian tubes should be big enough to breathe and drain ... which should prevent infections from being able to become entrenched ... ... when one does get going in there, they will cause inflammation and the swelling closes off the drainage and breathing and causes the pain ... ... ... therefore the ibuprofen will relieve the pain and decrease the swelling ... ... ... took about 40 minutes from real pain to no pain when i took 800mg ... ... i'd recommend taking 800mg every 4 hours until the pain does not return ... .... ... just my suggestion ...... ... this is a more serious problem for kids because their tubes are too small, at least until they're 5 or so ... ...
> What kind of work do you do?
electronic repair maintenance technician and multimedia operator type stuff
>
> What brand of child do you have? (M, F, neither)our ever-larger super hero (we used to be able to call him our "Tiny Hero" ... no more) is Robert Santiago and, oh, my goodness is he ever a b-o-y ! ... .. ... and great fun too ... ...
(_how can i be depressed?_), he asks himself ... ... ...
~ jimdaddy
Posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 22:30:58
In reply to Re: Back from therapy! » kara lynne, posted by Dinah on August 12, 2003, at 20:33:55
I don't think it did anything for me. I went in there talking about feeling desperate, and not wanting to call my ex from that state. He asked me what I was feeling desperate about, as my ex really filled little need for me, and went on about my waiting for prince charming to come rescue me.
That did little with helping me through feelings of desperation, whether it was true or not.
I don't see how that kind of feedback is supposed to be uselful. I think I will use our last session to speak my piece about it--I think...
Posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 22:39:33
In reply to re: Life Toons » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 20:39:19
No greater blessing, indeed. How beautiful, Robert Santiago.
I do have one other name of a therapist, who is supposed to be the 'golden standard', but very traditional. I might try him. I guess I might have to investigate further.
Now I am going to go in search of Ibuprofen!! I don't want to spend the evening inflamed. Thanks for all that info---it feels like an inflamed bump, or something--not deep in, but deeper than I can see to try to treat it with Hydrogen Peroxide and antibiotic ointment. I've been trying all kinds of mirror tricks, but it's too deep. In the meantime I did a terrible thing and tried to lance it by feel because it was throbbing and causing me so much pain. Ok, not a very intelligent thing to do.
Time to hit the ibu.
yesac???????
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 23:13:43
In reply to re: The above past life wasn't for me, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 19:37:18
hi kara lynne,
> You *are* lucky!
... and grateful.
>
> Gee. You must have done something right in a past life, or something.i could hope
... ... then there's that weird deal with my folks and lama pema norbu though ... ...
.... .... perhaps a strange form of reciprocity
... ... and if this amounts to karma-in-action, then i am going to feel much more paranoid
... ... .... know what i mean?but getting to have drugs that work is a blessing i would not dismiss ... ... i am grateful
and a bit ashamed at my good fortune here, in the face of the huge stressors that have piled on you:
your ex ... ... a former boyfriend? ;
you had to move, albeit for the better;
your drugs aren't doing it for you ....
are there more for this list?then look at me:
all i got to worry about is should i do 10 mg or bump up to 15 mg of lexapro?
. .. .. .. poor meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! BAH!oh yeah, and how's your earache doing?
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 23:26:36
In reply to re: ibuprofen as a supplement? » lil' jimi, posted by zenhussy on August 12, 2003, at 20:35:17
hi zenhussy,
> i abuse ibuprofen like a fiend ... ... i take it like a supplement 600 to 800 mg a day most days ... ... i still have good liver function ... ... should i be more concerned, you think ?
>
> ~ jim
>
> Yes. You should be concerned.
>
> zenhussy
okay, i'm concerned ... ... how concerned should i be ?... my liver functions good
... my kidney function is good
... no occult blood, no ulcersi would be worried if i'm compromising my lexapro's effectiveness or something ... ...
... is there something else you could alert me to ...
... please?thank you,
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 23:41:33
In reply to Re: Back from therapy! Dinah, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 22:30:58
hi kara lynne,
> I don't think it did anything for me. I went in there talking about feeling desperate, and not wanting to call my ex from that state. He asked me what I was feeling desperate about, as my ex really filled little need for me, and went on about my waiting for prince charming to come rescue me.
>
> That did little with helping me through feelings of desperation, whether it was true or not.
>
> I don't see how that kind of feedback is supposed to be uselful. I think I will use our last session to speak my piece about it--I think...as if i, who has not had therapy, would know, but how is that beneficial to you when he invalidates your feelings of desparation by trivializing your interaction/relationship with your ex?
i mean even if therapy-guy feels his input is insightful and analytical, how is that value to be conveyed if offered in the form of an argument ... ... or, more accurately i think ... in the form of a put down ?
how are his suggestions different from being demeaned for having your feelings?i think you should, IF you feel like it, ask him about it ... ... or blow him off ...
TAKE CARE !!!
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 23:57:20
In reply to lil Jimi Lexapro, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 22:39:33
hi again kara lynne,
> No greater blessing, indeed. How beautiful, Robert Santiago.
>that was sylvia's choice and i got to endorse what the good woman who went through labor had every right to get to choose
> I do have one other name of a therapist, who is supposed to be the 'golden standard', but very traditional. I might try him. I guess I might have to investigate further.
>just to keep your options open anyway.
> Now I am going to go in search of Ibuprofen!! I don't want to spend the evening inflamed. Thanks for all that info---it feels like an inflamed bump, or something--not deep in, but deeper than I can see to try to treat it with Hydrogen Peroxide and antibiotic ointment. I've been trying all kinds of mirror tricks, but it's too deep. In the meantime I did a terrible thing and tried to lance it by feel because it was throbbing and causing me so much pain. Ok, not a very intelligent thing to do.
>
> Time to hit the ibu.
>... we don't want to be trying to lance into our eustachian tube ... of course
... ... now where you've hurt yourself will need the hydrogen peroxide ... ...> yesac???????
yeah! ... ... YESAC !!
~ jim
Posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 1:20:55
In reply to re: lil Jimi Lexapro » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 23:57:20
No, no lancing our eustachian tube, surely. But how about *just* before our eustachian tube (only kidding, I thought it was much more superficial, but now it's gotten out of hand. I might have to see the doc tomorrow...)
Well you're right, even if you haven't had therapy. I don't think that being demeaned in any way, even if it's in the name of 'confronting' is a good idea. Besides as I've said, I'm not one much for denying my reality, or being dishonest (maybe that confrontive style is more appropriate under those circumstances). I need to be thinking of reasons why I *shouldn't* be punishing myself.
I was off watching the Osbourne's season finale, for lack of anything better to do or the energy to do it with. It was very very mean, but at least it turned out ok in the end.
Posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 1:29:10
In reply to re: Back from therapy! Dinah » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 23:41:33
I am trying to consider whether to go to another session and talk to him about it, or just blow him off.
I think by trivializing my relationship he was trying to point out that I shouldn't be feeling desperate about missing him--because I wasn't getting anything to begin with. But somehow that didn't help! And then I went on to say maybe it was the minimal amount of affection I got from my ex, or that he at least like me, and he said, "How do you know the guy liked you?"
So it was the 'brutally honest' hour. He then went on to talk about how unattractive a package a depressed, unemployed woman would be. He was referring to another point in my life, but it could apply (virtually) as well now. Then he said he was just feeding back information I had given him, but I hadn't really given it to him quite that way---even if I did feel it. And now I just get to go home and ponder that all night--even though he made a comment about how now I have a chance to do things differently.
As if I could just walk away from his couch, burst forth into the world and knock em all dead with my dazzling smile from all his encouragement.
Thanks for letting me ramble.
Posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 1:39:04
In reply to re: The above past life wasn't for me » kara lynne, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 23:13:43
Please don't be ashamed of your success, even if I tease you. I think it's well deserved, and somewhere it gives me hope. I'm even trying Lexapro again!
As for the list...you got an extra lifetime?
Yes, the stressors are many, and enhanced by this evening's full moon. The move (2nd in six weeks) I hope to God is for the better, but I'm still too traumatized to know it. Hopefully within a few weeks I'll be able to see a little bit of the forest for the trees...
How long ago did that happen to you? How would you consider it reciprocity, or reason to feel paranoid if it were karma in action? I don't think it means you have to give up anything dear to your heart...
Posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 8:50:19
In reply to re: The above past life wasn't for me, posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 1:39:04
good morning!
i hope it is a good morning for everyone
and i thought i'd start my morning off by checking in with our sweet ms yesac ...
... Hi, Yesac!
... how you doing?
... hoping you're doing okay there!TAKE CARE !!
~ jim
Posted by yesac on August 13, 2003, at 9:00:07
In reply to lil Jimi Lexapro, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 22:39:33
Posted by yesac on August 13, 2003, at 9:21:30
In reply to re: Yesac?, posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 8:50:19
> i hope it is a good morning for everyone
> and i thought i'd start my morning off by checking in with our sweet ms yesac ...
> ... Hi, Yesac!
> ... how you doing?
> ... hoping you're doing okay there!Oh, gee, thanks. I feel special that you guys missed me last night! I left work at the usual 6:30 EST last night... don't have internet access at home so I'm usually online if I can be at work. Sometimes I go to the library or other places to get online too.
I'm feeling kind of okay. I ended up talking to one of my new roomates for several hours last night. That was good. Hopefully things will begin to feel more comfortable gradually. I'm not trying to rush it or push myself too much because I don't want to let myself get all stressed out about it. Hoping that in time, we'll just all feel comfortable living together.
But I wish I hadn't missed the whole conversation here last night!
I know I'm jumping in kind of late here, but here are my thoughts:
kL - Yeah, I don't know about that therapist. I mean, I'm not saying ditch him, because it's your decision, and it's all about how you feel... but I do think that if your initial reaction was so strong that you didn't really like or get much from him, well... sometimes with these things I just think you need to go with your gut. On the other hand, one more session probably couldn't hurt just to see if he's still the same or what he says if you tell him how you felt about his approach.
LJ - I'm really sorry about your parents too. I had no idea (how would I, I guess?)
Now you guys have got me wondering about Lexapro. I've been on Celexa and Paxil, which both did nothing for me, so I've pretty much given up on SSRIs... but I don't know. I'm just so desperate now to find something that works.
Posted by fallsfall on August 13, 2003, at 9:41:42
In reply to Re: Back from therapy! Dinah, posted by kara lynne on August 12, 2003, at 22:30:58
Hi Kara,
I'm a little sleepy today (had to get up for my daughter), so I may not make any sense.
I'm confused about this therapist. Is he new for you (how many sessions)?. But you say something about a "last appointment", so are you terminating?
I guess that I think it is almost always instructive to go back and talk about what didn't work. It gives them a chance to explain what they were trying to do, and may give you insight into how you see things. Lets you clean the air.
The time you don't go back (and this is the case with my last therapist) is when going back would be so traumatic that any gains wouldn't offset the trauma.
If this is a new guy and he is still trying to figure out how you work, then a discussion might be really helpful. (Because starting all over is Always a drag!)
Don't call your ex!! You are doing great! It will get easier each day.
Posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 10:21:06
In reply to re: The above past life wasn't for me, posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 1:39:04
hi Kara Lynne!
and, now, i recall your biggest latest stressor: your licensing exam and trying to get qualified to re-take it after having your mental health history mis-documented as a form of aggression instead of depression and being rejected for your dx being inadequate ... ... or at least something horrible like that .. ... .. on Top of the list i was making for you yesterday ... ... ... whenever they itemize our stressors, yours are the ones they always rate as the top aggravations ... ... ...
> Please don't be ashamed of your success, even if I tease you.
>well, "ashamed" may have been an overstatement ... ... but i do feel that my worst complaints are small potatoes comparatively speaking .. ... .. and i like you teasing me ... ... it's good for me.
> I think it's well deserved, and somewhere it gives me hope. I'm even trying Lexapro again!
>it may well be deserved, although i can't be too confident how well deserved it may be, but thanks!
of course, i am the big fan of lexapro, so that's close to my heart ... ... and you already know how it can be a big challenge ... .. ... it's like you can never know who it will work for and who it won't .. ... .. especially now that it seems to be being prescribed for everything ... ..
... depression
... atypical depression
... every anxiety/panic disorder
... bp, bp2, every mood diorder
... ocd, eating disordersas setonin stablity becomes the more likely suspect for these disorders ... and as other ADs inflict worse or too many SEs and /or poop out ... then the refugees are being sent to lexapro or effexor ...
and of course lex can offer up every kind of initial SE, which can last ... oh, who knows how long ?
... .. ... the pBab lex tread is an awesome resource that documents all of these things so well ... ...("bring us your poor, your tired, huddled masses ..." she said.)
but it is most gratifying to me, if i am able to give you hope.
There IS Hope! for all of us .... hang in there!> As for the list...you got an extra lifetime?
>
> Yes, the stressors are many, and enhanced by this evening's full moon. The move (2nd in six weeks) I hope to God is for the better, but I'm still too traumatized to know it. Hopefully within a few weeks I'll be able to see a little bit of the forest for the trees...
>poor baby ... we are a-pulling for you!
> How long ago did that happen to you? How would you consider it reciprocity, or reason to feel paranoid if it were karma in action? I don't think it means you have to give up anything dear to your heart...
>the auto accident happened in st. pete, fl on june 3rd, 2002 and lama pema norbu was to arrive (did arrive) in austin on june 5th 2002 ... ... it was a little over a year ago .. ... .. funny thing to me is that when i told my gp about my parents in march, she said (i'm way paraphrasing here) that they give us 6 months to recover from grief and i had had nine months, therefore i needed lex ... ... and although i argue with that, a lot, i still feel like lex was/is a good thing for me.
i suffer some powerfully ambivalent feelings about those events ... .... ... the sense that they are connected haunts me ... ... ... yet it seems unavoidable ... .. ... 'seems' may be the operative word there ... i don't know
... .. ... but IF they were/are connected, well, now i think things may be able to be too connected
... ... although, in my madhyamaka mahayana buddhism there is great emphasis placed on the mutually interdependent reciprocal origination of all things
... ... ever feel like you are supposed to be learning a lesson about something and the universe is screaming it at you but you don't get it?i'd just like to believe that such karmic forces weren't going to .... what?
... use loved ones deaths to ... what?
... guide my spirtual ... choices?i mean if i am not Supposed to join up with my beloved Nyingmapa ... .. ... can we just have the powers-that-be like send me a telegram or something instead of like having people die?
so, you can see now how these things seem to me too connected, for this buddhist, who believes everything is connected ... ...
what might be the consequences if i were to try to join the Kargyutpas? ... (kargyutpa is another tibetan buddhist tradition ... there are like 4 or 5 main flavors)
even i think this is silly ... ... and my parents really are in a better place now .
still it spooks me ... ... some.
and how is kara lynne today, please?
~ jim
Posted by yesac on August 13, 2003, at 11:48:21
In reply to re: another past life for us, posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 10:21:06
>the auto accident happened in st. pete, fl on june 3rd, 2002 and lama pema norbu was to arrive (did arrive) in austin on june 5th 2002 ... ... it was a little over a year ago .. ... .. funny thing to me
> is that when i told my gp about my parents in march, she said (i'm way paraphrasing here) that they give us 6 months to recover from grief and i had had nine months, therefore i needed lex ...
> ... and although i argue with that, a lot, i still feel like lex was/is a good thing for me.Who's "they"? I mean, what is 6 months like the official grieving period, and after that you are just supposed to get over it? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard! Not to put down Dr. ?????-???... I'm sure it's what they teach them in medical school or residency or journals or whatever. I can just see it.... A Brief Guide to Grief as It Applies to Medicine: "Patients should be given exactly 6 months to recover from the death of people who have been there for their entire lives. If, after a MAXIMUM of 6 months, the patient is still showing symptoms of grief, then the patient must be depressed and therefore whip out a prescription so that you as the MD don't have to deal with it anymore."
Oh well, maybe I'm overreacting a bit here. It just seems a little silly to put a time frame on it like that. As far as I know, grieving is a "process" that goes on for years and years, if not forever in some kind of way.
Posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 11:51:33
In reply to Re: Back from therapy! Kara, posted by fallsfall on August 13, 2003, at 9:41:42
Hi fallsfall,
Yes, that was the second session I've had with this therapist and I was thinking seriously about it being the last. But I think I will keep my appt. next week and try and to talk about what happened. I want to be able to be a bit clearer about it though, because I realized I left feeling so muddled yesterday. I'm still not quite sure what happened.And thank you for saying 'Don't call your ex'!! My friends (friend?) tries to qualify everything and say she shouldn't tell me what to do, but I really *want* people to say DON'T CALL YOUR EX!!! I was going to put reminders up in my room this morning like, "Even when it was good it was bad", and "You will feel worse if you call", and "He called you an unloveable %$%" and "The guy's impotent anyway".....but I thought it would make me feel more psycho. But I liked reading your post and seeing the directive.
How are things going with you??
Posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 12:22:56
In reply to re: another past life for us, posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 10:21:06
Ah! Thank you for making clear the obvious. Of course that's what you might infer from the events--talk about top stressors. And it is still so fresh, really.
I don't quite understand the 6/9 months thing--does that mean grieving past 6 months makes you a candidate for meds? ( I can never get behind these time slots we're supposed to have for our emotions...) Well whatever the rationale it led you to something that works for you, and that's all that matters.
I don't think your fears are the slightest bit silly; I don't see how someone wouldn't have been impacted dramatically by the timing of those two things. I do think it's unfortunate though, that you have to be left with so much unresolved fear. Is there someone--a mentor, friend, fellow Buddhist that you could talk about this with?
"ever feel like you are supposed to be learning a lesson about something and the universe is screaming it at you but you don't get it?" May I say... everyday??
But I get this sense lil Jimi, and I wish I could articulate it better, that the meaning for you ultimately is a very positive one. That on the other side of this fear lies a joy in what the actual connection might mean. I hope I'm not overstepping-- please slap me if I am. I just think there is something very beautiful waiting for you, in another reflection of the mirror.
Thank you for indulging me my stress factors-- my misdocumented drama, my inadequate dx (that sounds so funny--even my diagnosis is inadequate!). I am off to...ta da...the ear doctor, so he can look at my lanced eustachian tube.
Thank you for writing.
Posted by kara lynne on August 13, 2003, at 12:29:14
In reply to Oh, I've missed Everything ;( (nm), posted by yesac on August 13, 2003, at 9:00:07
Hi yesac,
Nice to see you. What are your roommates like? When did you move in with them?Roommates can be so difficult, but on the other hand you have built in company when you're getting along. I was feeling so isolated when I got up this morning, wishing I had a nice neighbor or something. At my last apt. I had friends in the building which worked out ideally; we all had our own space but we were near each other if we needed anything.
Well, off for the day---I'll check back after the ear doctor.
K.L.
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