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Posted by Dinah on August 27, 2002, at 16:56:23
I swear Ted, if you weren't married I'd be moving heaven and earth to introduce you to some of the unmarried ladies here. Does your wife know how lucky she is?
Don't mean to embarass you, but sensitive, intelligent, funny, and with a talent for erotica is NOT easy to come by.
Dinah
Posted by Ted on August 27, 2002, at 17:20:16
In reply to Ted, posted by Dinah on August 27, 2002, at 16:56:23
Ummm, Thanks, Dinah. Really. As I said to Gabbi recently, flattery will get you everywhere. :-)
>if you weren't married ...
>Does your wife know how lucky she is?I think my wife is mostly happy with me (sorry ladies), but ours hasn't exactly been the best of relationships either, if you know what I mean. We are doing *much* better now that I take depakote + wellbutrin and she takes wellbutrin + prozac. We both come from families with long histories of dysfunctional behavior, so we ended up in a, shall I say, codependent relationship which was unhealthy for us both. We are trying to make it work for the long-haul (15-1/2 years and counting).
>Don't mean to embarass you
Liar. :-)
>but sensitive,
My wife would get a hernia laughing at that one.
>intelligent,
OK, I do have some accomplishments.
>funny,
Gee... It used to be *me* that everyone laughed at. :-)
>and with a talent for erotica
Not a lot of people consider this a talent. :-)
Dinah, you are placing awfully high standards for me to live up to. I'll try not to let you down.
Ted
Posted by Dinah on August 27, 2002, at 17:29:41
In reply to *blush* -- » Dinah, posted by Ted on August 27, 2002, at 17:20:16
I think that is just about as good as a long term marriage gets. :)
I'm mostly happy with my husband too.
Did you ever hear the Weird Al song?
"Well you're almost everything I ever wanted,
You're not perfect but I love you anyhow.
You're the woman that I always dreamed of,
Well not really, but you're good enough for now."My husband and I wanted to play that at our wedding because we think it's such a great realistic view of a relationship (well, except for the "for now" part).
But really, I didn't want to embarasss you. I've just been really impressed with your posts lately. Well, not "just" lately....
Oh you know what I mean. :D
Posted by Medusa on August 28, 2002, at 0:08:38
In reply to Ted, posted by Dinah on August 27, 2002, at 16:56:23
what Dinah said.
Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 28, 2002, at 5:46:09
In reply to Jumping in on the jumping Ted thread, posted by Medusa on August 28, 2002, at 0:08:38
Posted by Dinah on August 28, 2002, at 6:57:14
In reply to *blush* -- » Dinah, posted by Ted on August 27, 2002, at 17:20:16
> Dinah, you are placing awfully high standards for me to live up to. I'll try not to let you down.
>
>
> Ted
>
Darn, that's an example of what I'm afraid I'm doing to my son. :(And what my mom did to me.
Sigh.
Posted by Roo on August 28, 2002, at 10:14:20
In reply to Re: Oh dear...., posted by Dinah on August 28, 2002, at 6:57:14
I just love these flirty little threads...Dinah and Ted...
Gabbi and Bobby...they crack me up and make me smile...I have
to admit I get some vicarious enjoyment out of people flirting
with each other on this site.
Posted by Ted on August 28, 2002, at 12:34:12
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-), posted by Roo on August 28, 2002, at 10:14:20
> I just love these flirty little threads...Dinah and Ted...
> Gabbi and Bobby...they crack me up and make me smile...I have
> to admit I get some vicarious enjoyment out of people flirting
> with each other on this site.
Better than Bobby & Ted or Gabbi & Dinah, though, isn't it? :-) Dang, I live too close to San Francisco and it shows. :-)I have always liked flirting. It's fun and it's harmless.
Ted
Posted by Dinah on August 28, 2002, at 14:11:11
In reply to Flirting .... » Roo, posted by Ted on August 28, 2002, at 12:34:12
I haven't flirted since high school.
Just honest appreciation from a relatively happily married matron. :)
Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 28, 2002, at 14:29:35
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-), posted by Roo on August 28, 2002, at 10:14:20
So, Roo, who do you like? Ted's nice and all but I think Phil is the man for me ;-)
Posted by Roo on August 29, 2002, at 8:33:42
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-) » Roo, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 28, 2002, at 14:29:35
Dinah--I think that's probably my definition of
"flirting" is appreciation/admiration....I didn't mean anything
bad by it....Tabitha...I don't really know who I like...I like Phil
too, but he never responds to any of my posts...(but I
always read his b/c they're funny)
I tend to resonate more with the women (or at least I'm
assuming their women from their girly names) on this
site.
Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 30, 2002, at 4:37:05
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-)--Dinah and Tabitha, posted by Roo on August 29, 2002, at 8:33:42
>
> Tabitha...I don't really know who I like...I like Phil
> too, but he never responds to any of my posts...(but I
> always read his b/c they're funny)
> I tend to resonate more with the women (or at least I'm
> assuming their women from their girly names) on this
> site.
Yeah, me too, it's easier to connect with women here, since it's just "talking" without the physical presence. I've always found conversation more intense with women--I believe the stuff about our brains being wired a little differently than men.Yep, Phil's an elusive one, but I tend to get crushes on the more "unavailable" men. That black humor is the thing that hooks me. I got a crush on Dreamer for a while too, because of her charming and mysterious little posts. She's another elusive one.
Isn't it funny how you can tell gender here even when the names aren't clear about it? Somehow it's always obvious.
Posted by Dinah on August 30, 2002, at 8:41:23
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-)--Dinah and Tabitha, posted by Roo on August 29, 2002, at 8:33:42
> Dinah--I think that's probably my definition of
> "flirting" is appreciation/admiration....I didn't mean anything
> bad by it....
>
Ah then in that case, I definitely have appreciation/admiration for Ted.But it also means I flirt with a number of women on the board. :)
Posted by Roo on August 30, 2002, at 9:17:40
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-)--Dinah and Tabitha » Roo, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 30, 2002, at 4:37:05
>
>
> Yeah, me too, it's easier to connect with women
here, since it's just "talking" without the
physical presence. I've always found
conversation more intense with women--I
believe the stuff about our brains being
wired a little differently than men.
Yeah, we're definitely wired different. I used to work
at a day care center with kids...and the "nurture vs. nature"
question about gender roles became no question at all for me.
Men and women are wired different, no question. Doesn't mean
we don't share a lot of similarities too, because we share being
HUMAN...
All of my friends are women, I've always been really comfortable
with that intense energy, need it actually. I wish I had some male
friends though. I really like male energy too.
>
> Yep, Phil's an elusive one, but I tend to get
crushes on the more "unavailable" men. That
black humor is the thing that hooks me. I got
a crush on Dreamer for a while too, because
of her charming and mysterious little posts.
She's another elusive one.
Crushes are so fun. I can get crushes on men and women
too. Dreamer's a little sex pot :-) Of course everyone,
men and women alike, I think, had crushes on Sar. She was
just that sort of person.
I always wonder what everybody looks like. Like I have
a very definite picture of what Phil looks like in my
head, but he probably resembles nothing like it in real life.>
> Isn't it funny how you can tell gender here
even when the names aren't clear about it?
Somehow it's always obvious.
It is funny. I've been fooled before, though, and
it can totally blow your mind. I was on this astrology
forum years ago and started emailing this person whose screen
name was "ayana"...now to me, there was something about that
name that seemed "girly" and so I assumed I was corresponding
with a woman. But it turned out, "anyana" was male! Man,
it totally blew my mind. And I found myself relating completely
differently and immediately getting a big crush and kind of acting
more seductive and "womanly". Weird.
>
Posted by Roo on August 30, 2002, at 9:18:47
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-)--Dinah and Tabitha » Roo, posted by Dinah on August 30, 2002, at 8:41:23
> But it also means I flirt with a number
of women on the board. :)
Yep, that's right!
Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 31, 2002, at 4:13:55
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-)--Tabitha, posted by Roo on August 30, 2002, at 9:17:40
>
>
> I always wonder what everybody looks like. Like I have
> a very definite picture of what Phil looks like in my
> head, but he probably resembles nothing like it in real life.Yeah, I have a mental picture of Phil. It's not really clear as to his looks though. He's sort of a gruff dude, sitting at his kitchen table. He goes out around town and is really wary of people, a tad volatile. He has a nervous energy. Gee, do you think he hears us talking about him? ;-)
>
> It is funny. I've been fooled before, though, and
> it can totally blow your mind. I was on this astrology
> forum years ago and started emailing this person whose screen
> name was "ayana"...now to me, there was something about that
> name that seemed "girly" and so I assumed I was corresponding
> with a woman. But it turned out, "anyana" was male! Man,
> it totally blew my mind.So did you go back and re-read his email? Could you re-interpret him as male? Did he realize you had been relating to him as a woman?
Posted by Roo on August 31, 2002, at 14:48:04
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-)--Tabitha » Roo, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 31, 2002, at 4:13:55
> >
> Yeah, I have a mental picture of Phil.
It's not really clear as to his looks though.
He's sort of a gruff dude, sitting at his
kitchen table. He goes out around town and
is really wary of people, a tad volatile.
He has a nervous energy. Gee, do you think
he hears us talking about him? ;-)
Naw, I don't think he knows or he would have jumped in by now.
I picture him as tall and thin with grey/silver short hair, kind
of fair skin...a look in his eyes that is somehow vulnerable, cranky,
guarded and wise.
>
> So did you go back and re-read his email?
Could you re-interpret him as male? Did he
realize you had been relating to him as a woman?
Yeah, I told him I thought he was a woman at first. We had
this strange sort of "emotionally promiscuious" email relationship
for 2 years. Towards the end he called me a couple of times, but
we really couldn't relate to each other very well outside of the
written word. One time he called and tried to initiate something like
phone sex, but THAT totally fell flat! We sent each other pictures, and a couple of gifts
(like books of poetry and stuff)...that was the first and last time
I ever did anything like that. It was weird. Pure fantasy. I got
pretty caught up in it at the time though.
Posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 31, 2002, at 16:41:17
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-)--Tabitha, posted by Roo on August 31, 2002, at 14:48:04
Interesting. Your Phil is totally different than mine. Mine is more stocky and weathered. Your Phil sounds sexier actually.
I can understand the intense email thing with the Anyana dude. I had a thing like that with an old college friend who was married at the time and lived very far away. It got completely obsessive, but it was not overtly romantic or sexual. We wrote long letters too. It really dominated my emotional life. He visited me and there was just nothing there in person. We had a fight over nothing and didn't speak for a couple years, then I reached out again. This time his wife got involved in the whole mess and she also sent me a long intense letter. Such drama. I visited the two of them a couple times. On one visit he for some reason fed-exed me a letter right before I drove out, explaining some vital detail of the whole emotional storm. Eventually I couldn't take the triangle and the drama anymore and sort of ditched him.
Recently I started it up with him again. I think it may actually be sort of a normal, somewhat healthy relationship now. He's divorced and with a new girlfriend, and that intensity is gone from our correspondence. I'm not sure if I"m really OK with it though, I feel a bit rejected by him, like I'm doing all the work. It's hard for me not to switch into obsessive mode. The other day I actually had the notion of getting him to join Babble. Better keep talking about him here instead.
Posted by Roo on September 1, 2002, at 17:33:11
In reply to Re: Hee, hee :-) » Roo, posted by ~~tabitha~~ on August 31, 2002, at 16:41:17
Wow...that sounds really intense...weird boundaries and
triangles galore....
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