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Posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 15:55:37
I cannot tell a lie, I do not deserve a good for you that he's your former fiance..He dumped me for someone else and.....
That is what triggered (not caused) my first cataclysmic breakdown.
I went to my psychiatrist for the first time after I realized that this was more than a broken-heart thing. He deals only with medication so I asked for a reference to a therapist.He did just that. And it turned out (unbeknownst to me) that he'd recommended me to the woman my fiancee had dumped me for.
It made me believe in a higher power though, I figured that of all the therpaists My Doc could have recommended out of the ENORMOUS amounts of therapist there are in Vancouver, for him to have picked that one must have been divine intervention (to drive me even crazier, but divine intervention nonetheless).
I did find out in the nick of time, though. So maybe the higher power had a guilty conscience
Posted by Ted on August 15, 2002, at 16:52:35
In reply to fiancees and therapists..Ted Tabitha anyone , posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 15:55:37
Gabbi, hun,
> I cannot tell a lie, I do not deserve a good for you that he's your former fiance..
You do too. Problems would have arose in time anyway. Better done with before there are other complications (home, kids, etc.).
> He dumped me for someone else and.....
> That is what triggered (not caused) my first cataclysmic breakdown.That is what killed me the first time around as well. I say 'killed' because I haven't been the same since, and it has been 17+ years. Conciously I let go long ago, but subconciously, I am still stuck.
The only difference in my case is that she was a wonderful person in whom I cannot think of a single fault (except perhaps the fact that she dumped *me* :-)).
> I went to my psychiatrist for the first time after I realized that this was more than a broken-heart thing.
Funny, that was what triggered my first visit as well, and for the same reason.
> He deals only with medication so I asked for a reference to a therapist.
Well, I wasn't ready to accept that I needed help in a big way, so I just pushed everything into my subconcious and went on with my life.
> He did just that. And it turned out (unbeknownst to me) that he'd recommended me to the woman my fiancee had dumped me for.
> It made me believe in a higher power though, I figured that of all the therpaists My Doc could have recommended out of the ENORMOUS amounts of therapist there are in Vancouver, for him to have picked that one must have been divine intervention (to drive me even crazier, but divine intervention nonetheless).Nah. Just coincidence. Let's look at this in a different light: Suppose she (the therapist & ex-fiancee's significant other) is a wonderful, warm, caring person who is truly interested in others. That's why your former fiancee fell for her. That's also why the pdoc recommended her -- because she truly cares for and tries to help her patients.
> I did find out in the nick of time, though.
Good for you! Whew! I am too braindead to figure out things like that.
final note:
With respect to "higher powers" and "divine influences", I say *hogwash*. Any god who causes these illnesses (depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, borderline, ...) has such a sick and hurtful way with humanity that I think worship of such an entity should be punishable by a lifetime in a mental institution taking psych meds. Sorry, I have to get off my soap box now, but that's how I feel.Ted
Posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 17:43:02
In reply to Re: fiancees and therapists..Ted Tabitha anyone » Gabbi, posted by Ted on August 15, 2002, at 16:52:35
About the soapbox, I agree. I do, one time I acted like a drama queen in front of my dad recently was when I was pulling at my hair and screaming " How could any God put some one through this"!! I tried desperately to find something to put faith in but I couldn't do it, the only part of brain that didn't stop working was the part that could find the flaw in every theory.
"Well maybe you're going through this so it'll make you stronger then you can help others who are depressed" Oh, now I'm on my soapbox.
*****Depression does not make me stronger, its wearing me away bit by bit, surving a knowable crisis on your own might but not this ever-morphing hell .and If I'm going through this to help others than why the hell are they depressed?I still don't understand the perpetually unspooling brain, It seems you "we" can cope with the breakup eventually, but the depression residue stays behind like mold.
And on a lighter note, My fiancee dumped me for her because he'd always wanted to boff a redhead!
Yes it is a good thing that we are over, but you know, nobody's all good or all bad, and for reasons I won't bore you with I tend to very easily reason away the negative.
Thanks and empathy
Gabbi
Posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 17:51:31
In reply to Re: fiancees and therapists..Ted Tabitha anyone » Ted, posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 17:43:02
My older sister who is a really supportive and kind person as well as being a minister often e-mails me and closes with "I'm praying for you"
The last e-mail I sent her I asked "Who have you been praying too..... SATAN???
Fortunately she took it the way it was meant and laughed an e-mail laugh.
Posted by Ted on August 15, 2002, at 18:10:22
In reply to Re: B.T.W re; Higher power, posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 17:51:31
Posted by Dinah on August 15, 2002, at 20:08:31
In reply to Re: B.T.W re; Higher power, posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 17:51:31
And I'm a believer.
Your sister sounds like a nice person.
Posted by Ted on August 15, 2002, at 21:48:58
In reply to Re: fiancees and therapists..Ted Tabitha anyone » Ted, posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 17:43:02
Hi Gabbi,
> Yes it is a good thing that we are over, but you know, nobody's all good or all bad, and for reasons I won't bore you with I tend to very easily reason away the negative.
Yeah, yeah.... I'm the smae way. That's how I ended up with a depressed, social phobic, obsessive-compulsive wife. She is a wonderful person and mommy, but....
> And on a lighter note, My fiancee dumped me for her because he'd always wanted to boff a redhead!
Geez! He should'a just boffed her, then YOU would have dumped HIM! I know it didn't, and probably wouldn't have, turn out that way, but you can daydream about it just to feel like you are getting back at him.
Ted (who daydreams a lot)
Posted by .tabitha. on August 16, 2002, at 0:29:50
In reply to fiancees and therapists..Ted Tabitha anyone , posted by Gabbi on August 15, 2002, at 15:55:37
Your ex dumped you for a THERAPIST? He'll be miserable for sure.
Posted by Gabbi on August 16, 2002, at 13:31:08
In reply to Re: fiancees and therapists..Ted Tabitha anyone » Gabbi, posted by .tabitha. on August 16, 2002, at 0:29:50
Hi Tabitha,
Actually I'm pretty sure he's got her tied to a chair right now, and not because she's going on vacation either And I also guess If she hasn't joined psychobabble yet she will be.....
Hi L.....!Take good care of Tabitha while her therapist is gone, Okay tabitha?
Love Gabbi.
Posted by Gabbi on August 16, 2002, at 13:35:50
In reply to Re: fiancees and therapists..Ted Tabitha anyone » Gabbi, posted by .tabitha. on August 16, 2002, at 0:29:50
I was overwhelmed by your interest and support regarding my posts. So overwhelmed that believe it or not you've rendered me speechless. (was that the plan? : )
Right now all I can say is thank-you thank-you
When I stop being overwhelmed, I might be able to think of something to say.
I think what you said had more of an effect than you might have suspected.
Grateful Gabbi
Posted by Ted on August 16, 2002, at 13:46:33
In reply to Ted...., posted by Gabbi on August 16, 2002, at 13:35:50
Hey Gabbi,
> I was overwhelmed by your interest and support regarding my posts. So overwhelmed that believe it or not you've rendered me speechless. (was that the plan? : )
Huh? Uhh, no.
> Right now all I can say is thank-you thank-you
Umm, you're welcome. :-)
> When I stop being overwhelmed, I might be able to think of something to say.
Don't worry about it. Just eat a mango and email me tonight. :-)
> I think what you said had more of an effect than you might have suspected.
Golly... I thought I just talked too much while my brain, what's left of it and such as it is, was in neutral.
Well, I am happy I made you feel better. Really.
Ted
(Who is a little confused and talks too much most of the time.... because of a genetic trait inherited from his mother)
Posted by Gabbi on August 18, 2002, at 17:18:52
In reply to Re: Ted.... HUH?? » Gabbi, posted by Ted on August 16, 2002, at 13:46:33
Well I Was overwhelmed, and then I started that dangerous overthinking thing I do.. And thought well I'd like to add some of my ideas regarding the reasoning away the negative, and other things in your post, so I was going to. Then I thought well maybe then he'll feel obliged to respond even if he's not into it, and maybe its none of my business.... (no not asking for reassurance honest)
But I couldn't just not respond to the "post that overwhelmed me" so I had to let you know how much it was appreciated.
You say YOU talk to much....As for the mango's I don't have any, and dehydrated apricots just don't have the same charm.
:)
(I wish I could make mine wink like yours do.)
Posted by Ted on August 18, 2002, at 18:17:03
In reply to Gasp!---- you beast you...... » Ted, posted by Gabbi on August 18, 2002, at 17:18:52
Gabbi, Gabbi, Gabbi....,
> Well I Was overwhelmed, and then I started that dangerous overthinking thing I do.
You just don't understand. *DON'T THINK TOO MUCH!* Thinking never did anyone any good. That's what's so nice about SSRIs and Depakote: With them one *can't* think. :-)
> Then I thought well maybe then he'll feel obliged to respond even if he's not into it, and maybe its none of my business.... (no not asking for reassurance honest)
I am very simple: I'll butt in and talk too much. I babble to no end. If you get me on the wrong path, I might end up insulting someone (Hey! I'm a guy!). I'm not easily bothered unless personally attacked for something I feel I am not responsible. You can ask anything you want. Heck, you can even have my private email address if you don't spam me. And if I don't want to talk about something, I won't.
> But I couldn't just not respond to the "post that overwhelmed me" so I had to let you know how much it was appreciated.
But you never said *how* it overwhelmed you. You know, I take depakote. I can't figure these things out on my own. :-)
> You say YOU talk to much....
Yeah, I do, and I do indeed. A trait inherited from my mother: Being enamored with the sound of one's own voice, as I call it.
> As for the mango's I don't have any, and dehydrated apricots just don't have the same charm.
Ahh, but "dehydrated" (actually: "Aged to perfection in the warm sunshine") apricots are themselves a unique passionalte experience. If you can't feel the charm of their essence, then I cannot help you. They have a blush to their flesh that is so... inviting, like the blush of a shy woman in the throws of passion. Do it: Take wanton pleasure of their sweetness and fantasize away in their tart aftertaste. Just like mangos, now, don't overdo it. Apricots aged to perfection in the warm sunshine are just as delicate a fruit and deserve like respect.
;-)
> (I wish I could make mine wink like yours do.)
Ahh, but you CAN! Just do it like this ;-)
Ted
Posted by Gabbi on August 18, 2002, at 19:36:11
In reply to Re: Gasp!---- you beast you...... » Gabbi, posted by Ted on August 18, 2002, at 18:17:03
Its true, ask Dinah. I once sent her a warning about something I wanted her to see, because I wasn't sure if it wouldn't automatically subscribe her to One million and two things if she opened it.
So I said if you have any misgivings don't open delete. And she deleted and I was glad, because then, something akin to when you said "If I don't talk about something I won't" I knew that she wouldn't sigh and grit her teeth while feeling obliged to humor me (At least not most of the time)Its your call.
BTW I do have an Imagination but it does have some limitations
Thanks for the thought but these are bulk sulfured apricots, purchased by my dad who thinks Powdered skim milk with extra water is as good tasting in your tea as anything else....
Posted by Ted on August 18, 2002, at 20:31:52
In reply to I type too much , but I wouldn't SPAM anyone. » Ted, posted by Gabbi on August 18, 2002, at 19:36:11
Hi Gabbi,
> Its your call.
What? Remember, I take depakote. I'm a litle dense. Give you my email address? First you tell me if you are really intersted.
> BTW I do have an Imagination but it does have some limitations
Like what might I ask? <wink, wink>
> Thanks for the thought
Anytime.
> but these are bulk sulfured apricots
Ahh -- Scent of the Earth, Flesh of the Tree. Still wonderful. It's all how you look at it.
>purchased by my dad who thinks Powdered skim milk with extra water is as good tasting in your tea as anything else
Don't confuse the object with the consumer! The problem is your dad, not the powdered skim milk! Why, powdered cows are nearly as good as fresh ones and they travel much better without bruising.
Enjoy!
Ted
Posted by Gabbi on August 18, 2002, at 21:17:05
In reply to Re: I type too much » Gabbi, posted by Ted on August 18, 2002, at 20:31:52
YES I would like very much to have your e-mail adress (and your imagination)
Do you remember what your e-mail adress is? :)
Posted by Dinah on August 18, 2002, at 21:19:18
In reply to I type too much , but I wouldn't SPAM anyone. » Ted, posted by Gabbi on August 18, 2002, at 19:36:11
Gabbi's telling the whole truth and nothing but, Ted. She did indeed warn me. (And I did indeed delete.) :)
Posted by .tabitha. on August 19, 2002, at 0:11:41
In reply to Re: I type too much » Gabbi, posted by Ted on August 18, 2002, at 20:31:52
I only buy powdered cows. THey go so well with dehydrated chickens. Just add water, you've got your whole barnyard-- moo, cluck!
Hmm, wonder how this thread started out...
Posted by Ted on August 19, 2002, at 11:27:40
In reply to Re: powdered cows, posted by .tabitha. on August 19, 2002, at 0:11:41
> Hmm, wonder how this thread started out...Powdered (former) fiancees. Yet another barnyard animal.
Ted
Posted by Ted on August 19, 2002, at 12:04:36
In reply to Re: I type too much -you remember too little » Ted, posted by Gabbi on August 18, 2002, at 21:17:05
> YES I would like very much to have your e-mail adress (and your imagination)
> Do you remember what your e-mail adress is? :)I imagine my email address to be thadley01 @ hotmail . com
(of course you have to remove the spaces which are inserted to prevent net bots from finding it.)
Ted
Posted by ctrlaltndel on August 19, 2002, at 15:30:52
In reply to Re: powdered cows, posted by .tabitha. on August 19, 2002, at 0:11:41
Where can i get a powdered apartment..if only twas possible...
Posted by Gabbi on August 19, 2002, at 18:26:11
In reply to Re: powdered cows lol » .tabitha., posted by ctrlaltndel on August 19, 2002, at 15:30:52
Its the awful grey color it is.
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