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Posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 21:28:52
Prying minds want to know did you meet the lady with legs that never end??
Thanks for blowing the cooler air my way. Should have done it a few days before I bought the air conditioner!
Northern Willow
Posted by Cam W. on August 9, 2001, at 22:00:50
In reply to Cam ..., posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 21:28:52
Willow - I got fired from my job yesterday; recently started flirting with the video slot machines again; the next level of the court case starts on the 23rd; my house is in the process of being painted (not paid for, yet); and we need a new furnace before fall.
My doc says that I have a toxic stress level, and it is starting to affect my family, too. I am calling a gambling counselor tomorrow (don't want to fall into that trap, again). Also, I think we should get some family grief counseling, but the lady who I would go to (she actually does have long legs) is on holidays until the 22nd.
I have to do something about my stress or I am going to blow up (literally). Ah yes, one day at a time.
Thanks for asking - Cam
Posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 22:29:24
In reply to Re: Cam to » Willow, posted by Cam W. on August 9, 2001, at 22:00:50
Well for once the doc is right!
I'm scratching my head. We're always in need of good pharmascists here in Northern Ontario. I actually know a few, besides the ones I go to for advice. Let me know if the family ever wants to move where there are a few trees.
On another plus side, the only gambling establishment we have is bingo.
I really wish I could be more help.
Willow
Posted by sar on August 10, 2001, at 0:45:35
In reply to Cam » Cam W., posted by Willow on August 9, 2001, at 22:29:24
aw geez cam,
just know that you have some care and support.
love,
sar
Posted by ChrisK on August 10, 2001, at 5:52:52
In reply to Re: Cam to » Willow, posted by Cam W. on August 9, 2001, at 22:00:50
Cam,
All I can offer right now are my best wishes for your current problems. I hope that they can be cleared up soon but I know about the gambling problems and how hard it is to get away. I live 8 miles from two race tracks in upstate NY and it takes a great deal of conviction to stay away when fate tempts you.
I lived sorrowfully vicariously through your pains last year and still say a prayer for your daughter at church. I can only hope that you will get through this situation sooner than the last.
My best and prayers are with you Cam,
Chris
Posted by Kingfish on August 10, 2001, at 9:37:01
In reply to Re: Cam , posted by ChrisK on August 10, 2001, at 5:52:52
> Cam,
>
I can only offer you personal support on the job front - my husband lost his job last spring and the market in NYC is very sketchy right now and we've moved ourselves just too far to commute there anyway (smart, eh?).So, I understand that uncertainty, and send calming thoughts your way. And warm thoughts for your grief and other stresses.
- K.
Posted by Cam W. on August 10, 2001, at 10:44:09
In reply to Re: Cam , posted by Kingfish on August 10, 2001, at 9:37:01
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your concern and support.
Sincerely, Cam
Posted by Rik on August 10, 2001, at 13:42:44
In reply to Re: Cam , posted by Cam W. on August 10, 2001, at 10:44:09
> Thanks guys, I really appreciate your concern and support.
>
> Sincerely, CamIt's nice to know that some concerns and support are appreciated.
I ,obviously, still have some issues with hurt feelings. Sometimes having
too much time on your hands is not a good thing as it inevitably leads to
over analysing things.I have not heard from G. regarding ASH, maybe it would be better left as is
I have issues with his idea of courtesy and respect as noted in the descriptor
on the home page.I hope that all goes well for you, as I always have. For now I think I need a
break. Perhaps spend some quality time with the kids and to reflect.Give my love to P. and A., I'll be seeing you.
RIK
Posted by Cam W. on August 10, 2001, at 15:30:22
In reply to Re: Cam , posted by Rik on August 10, 2001, at 13:42:44
Rik - I emailed Greg with an explanation this morning. He emailed you right after that. This is all my fault, through some paranoia. All you have to do is reapply and you're in. Sorry, I already thought you were back.
An apologetic Cam
Posted by Cam W. on August 10, 2001, at 15:33:26
In reply to Re: Cam , posted by Rik on August 10, 2001, at 13:42:44
Rik - I don't have your work number handy. It is in one of fourteen boxes in my garage; and I wasn't about to phone the store to ask for it. - Cam
Posted by tina on August 10, 2001, at 18:48:14
In reply to Re: Cam , posted by Rik on August 10, 2001, at 13:42:44
> I have issues with his idea of courtesy and respect as noted in the descriptor
> on the home page.
>
Sorry to butt in here Rik, but I'm wondering what home page you mean? If you mean ASH, what is it that so offends you in the descriptor?
Posted by Rik on August 10, 2001, at 20:47:01
In reply to Re: Cam -- RIK, posted by tina on August 10, 2001, at 18:48:14
> > I have issues with his idea of courtesy and respect as noted in the descriptor
> > on the home page.
> >
> Sorry to butt in here Rik, but I'm wondering what home page you mean? If you mean ASH, what is it that so offends you in the descriptor?
Hi Tina:It is ASH but it's not the descriptor that offends me. It is the lack of adherence to the principle through an action taken against me. Out of respect for those involved I would prefer not to go into detail. Thanks for asking though.
RIK
Posted by tina on August 10, 2001, at 21:10:54
In reply to Re: Cam -- RIK, posted by Rik on August 10, 2001, at 20:47:01
It's ok Rik, no details required, just wondering. None of my business.
Good luck
T> > > I have issues with his idea of courtesy and respect as noted in the descriptor
> > > on the home page.
> > >
> > Sorry to butt in here Rik, but I'm wondering what home page you mean? If you mean ASH, what is it that so offends you in the descriptor?
> Hi Tina:
>
> It is ASH but it's not the descriptor that offends me. It is the lack of adherence to the principle through an action taken against me. Out of respect for those involved I would prefer not to go into detail. Thanks for asking though.
>
> RIK
Posted by Noa on August 11, 2001, at 10:11:04
In reply to Re: Cam -- RIK, posted by tina on August 10, 2001, at 21:10:54
Cam,
It is good to see you back at PB.
I am so sorry about the job. I hope you and your family will get the care needed to begin a strong healing process. You have suffered more than I can even imagine.
I haven't checked out PB ADmin yet, so I don't know if you addressed my post there, but I hope it was received as intended--with care about you. I haven't been around here much, but do follow some of what is going on with you, because you mean a lot to me.
Take good care of yourself.
Posted by Cam W. on August 12, 2001, at 2:46:19
In reply to Re: Cam -- RIK, posted by Noa on August 11, 2001, at 10:11:04
Noa - I understood what you are saying in the PBA post, and I agree with you. Being a loose cannon, and shooting from the hip (as honestly as I can), does get me in a lot of trouble. I am starting counseling with a grief specialist, next week.
I still have intense, but (I believe) justifiable, anger focused on several people, who I thought were comrads. I guess that I have learned that you cannot wear your heart on your sleeve. Sometimes, honesty is not appreciated.
Everyone has their own agenda, and some do not care how much they hurt others. Destroying a career is a fairly juvenile act. This whole job situation is over me not giving unconditioned respect to a superior. I believe that the superior doesn't even realize that this whole situation is over demanded respect; I will not respect someone who hasn't earned my respect.
Respect is earned; you cannot buy it with someone's else's, or even your own, money. Respect is earned through one's actions towards others. For example, one must have the willingness and desire to go the extra mile for others; not out of "having to do it", but out of "wanting to do it."Noa, I respect you and your post, you are just pointing out the truth. Thanks.
Cam the Insomniac
Posted by AKC on August 12, 2001, at 7:00:01
In reply to Noa » Noa, posted by Cam W. on August 12, 2001, at 2:46:19
> I still have intense, but (I believe) justifiable, anger focused on several people, who I thought were comrads. I guess that I have learned that you cannot wear your heart on your sleeve. Sometimes, honesty is not appreciated.
>
> Everyone has their own agenda, and some do not care how much they hurt others. Destroying a career is a fairly juvenile act. This whole job situation is over me not giving unconditioned respect to a superior. I believe that the superior doesn't even realize that this whole situation is over demanded respect; I will not respect someone who hasn't earned my respect.
>
> Respect is earned; you cannot buy it with someone's else's, or even your own, money. Respect is earned through one's actions towards others. For example, one must have the willingness and desire to go the extra mile for others; not out of "having to do it", but out of "wanting to do it."
>Cam,
I am wait late to the board and to your story; therefore, I only know parts of it. But I am sorry for what has been happening and do feel your pain. Your line above about not being able to wear your heart on your sleave pains me. There is nothing worse than being open with those around you and then being trampled upon. While my situation was trivial compared to yours, I too lost a job by being open to a person who I thought cared -- 1 1/2 years ago, and I am still angry about it. I wish there was something I could do to help. More than just letting you know that I care.
AKC
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