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Posted by qbsbrown on July 31, 2005, at 9:57:55
Just curious as to why not. Any experiences? I'm intrigued. Sometimes homeopathy seems to be a good idea when there is so much treatment resistance to meds and vitamins/supplements. Or at least a shot.
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on July 31, 2005, at 11:02:19
In reply to WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????????, posted by qbsbrown on July 31, 2005, at 9:57:55
Good point, I don't know. I don't even know if it can help with mental illness.....maybe because its not preceived as 'strong' enough?
Any ideas?
Posted by qbsbrown on July 31, 2005, at 11:10:59
In reply to Re: WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????????, posted by Meri-Tuuli on July 31, 2005, at 11:02:19
Many people with "clinical" psychiatric conditions have benefited greatly from homeopaths. Some more so than any meds/vitamins/supplements could ever provide. I just haven't found any vitamins or supplements able to touch my problems, and sometimes i do think that i'll need the pharmaceutical grade crap. I'd like it to be my last resort.
But for this being an "alternative" board, it's all vitamins and supplements, which are great for most. But i thought we could cover a more broad and diverse spectrum of treatments.
Posted by Declan on July 31, 2005, at 15:58:47
In reply to Re: WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????, posted by qbsbrown on July 31, 2005, at 11:10:59
My accupuncturist TCM bloke, being Swiss perhaps, gives me homeopathic things. Since I respect him I take them happily enough, but with more or less zero confidence in their efficacy.
Now I think about it when I had pain referred from a disc in my neck he gave me a homeopathic injection at the site of the pain that was based on onions. It seemed to work a bit, or maybe the accupuncture did.
Declan
Posted by maggie1970 on July 31, 2005, at 18:51:32
In reply to Re: WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????, posted by qbsbrown on July 31, 2005, at 11:10:59
Meri-Tuuli,
I wanted to let you know I just went to see a homeopath. I went first for a consultation, not covered by insurance, a lot of money. But I was sick of conventional medication not working, and so down and very anxious. He met me once more for more history, then told me that he woudl have to go through 4000 different remedies before figuring one out. I just began it today, and what he told me is you can start feeling worse, but then get better. He told me, it doesn't treat the symptoms like conventional medication, it works to right the wrong. So after a week and a half, he had something ready for me to try. If I feel sick or worse in any way, I call him, he'll look for something else. I only am meant to take two a day for 7 days, and that's it. I will tell you, doctors have tried so many conventional ones on me, so I was feeling as close to suicidal as I ever was. Anyway, I am finally feeling maybe there is something new that may do something? I also take omega-3's. You can write me anytime you want, and I will let you know how things go. Maybe it was fate that I logged on today and read what you wrote, because I haven't been on here for so long. I'm just looking for another brand of omega's on here, and found what you wrote. If I can give you any info, and tell you how things go over the next week, etc..., I would love to share. Maybe it will work for us! Good luck to you, and take care, Maggie
Posted by linkadge on July 31, 2005, at 20:27:18
In reply to Re: WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????, posted by maggie1970 on July 31, 2005, at 18:51:32
Mainly because I figure I am so f'd over by meds that even if it worked it would take years to notice anything cause i'd have to undoe all the dammage done by harsh pharmacudicals.
Linkadge
Posted by qbsbrown on July 31, 2005, at 23:44:39
In reply to Re: WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????, posted by linkadge on July 31, 2005, at 20:27:18
That's good to hear Maggie. I'm actually a student at a Naturopathic College, and am seeing a Naturopath doc here, and am going to begin a remedy this coming week.
It's nice when a doc actual takes the time to talk to u and ask u questions, hour and a half for both of my first two visits. Better than the 5 mins and a prescription.
I have the same sentiment as you on western medicine in general.
Not to say that im anti meds, they do wonders for some, paxil probably saved my life when i was 19.
But yes, homeopathy is looking to correct the problem, instead of masking the symptoms.
I'll let u know how my first remedy goes too.
Posted by holymama on August 1, 2005, at 16:18:48
In reply to Re: WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????, posted by qbsbrown on July 31, 2005, at 23:44:39
I'm just letting you all know that, after 5 hours of consultation with my new homeopath (yup, the first visit is 3 hours, and since she still needed to talk with me, I sat down with her for another 2 hours), I just started my remedy 4 days ago. After only 2 days, my depression and anxiety came back. I called her today and she said to stop the remedy for now, and advised me to take 'rescue remedy' every 5-10 minutes for one hour. Call her tomorrow, or sooner. After taking the rescue remedy, I felt better! (I didn't know that stuff really worked!) If this good mood persists until tomorrow, she'll want to start the remedy again to see if it follows in the same pattern, and therefore the remedy she picked is working. I have to feel worse before I get better...I'm really glad that I have a very sensitive, attentive homeopath who understands how dangerous my moods can be and how dangerous it may be to make me feel worse first. So far, this is pretty amazing. I'm excited to see how it works out over the next couple of months.
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 1, 2005, at 17:09:31
In reply to Re: WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY TALK ABOUT HOMEOPATHY?????, posted by maggie1970 on July 31, 2005, at 18:51:32
Hi Maggie!
Thanks for your info. It’s very interesting! I had a friend who had her eczema almost cured by homoeopathy. I guess when you first get diagnosed with a mental illness its by a regular doc, and they're hardly going to send you down the 'alternative' route. I'm guess I'm on the conventional meds at the moment, but I will try the homeopathy when i come off them.I've also tried the 'rescue remedy' and some 'mood essences' although I can't say I had any sucess with them. I figured the rescue remedy worked because of the alcohol in the essence is contained in!
Its definately worth trying these things out.
Take care, Meri-Tuuli
Posted by holymama on August 1, 2005, at 17:52:40
In reply to Re: homeopathy maggie, posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 1, 2005, at 17:09:31
Some homeopaths will work along with your western meds. Some won't. Mine is even working with me while I change my western meds. I went to her in a 'crisis' and she's brave enough to take on my case. She said her hope for me is that once the homeopathy takes hold, I'll be able to cut down on my medications.
Posted by qbsbrown on August 2, 2005, at 0:40:14
In reply to Re: homeopathy » Meri-Tuuli, posted by holymama on August 1, 2005, at 17:52:40
Yes, many will work with you while on pharm drugs. Simply once you are feeling better, then you might be able to wean off of them slowly.
You don't have to be SSRI, benzo, mood stablizer free to do homeopathy.
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 2, 2005, at 2:32:24
In reply to Re: homeopathy » Meri-Tuuli, posted by holymama on August 1, 2005, at 17:52:40
I'll definately have to consider it seriously. I'm just about to move, but after that, I fully intend to try some other things like homeopathy. The only trouble is £!! I guess it's important to invest in one's health.
Has anyone had shiastsu? I've heard thats good for depression.
Posted by qbsbrown on August 2, 2005, at 12:41:46
In reply to Re: homeopathy, posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 2, 2005, at 2:32:24
I'm not sure about the visits, or if you have health insurance that would cover a Naturopath or a Homeopath, but the remedies themselves are extremely inexpensive.
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 2, 2005, at 17:11:05
In reply to Re: homeopathy, posted by qbsbrown on August 2, 2005, at 12:41:46
Hiya,
Thats good to know (about the inexpensive meds) Thing is, I live in the UK and here no-one has health insurance because we have free healthcare, but this generally doesn't cover alternative medicine unfortunately. I think the visits would be quite expensive though. In September I'm moving to a different (and cheaper!) part of the country so I'll look into it.Thanks for all the advice!
Posted by maggie1970 on August 3, 2005, at 8:09:34
In reply to I'm trying homeopathy for bipolar, posted by holymama on August 1, 2005, at 16:18:48
I tried rescue remedy before which never seemed like it worked, but I never tried it every 5-10 minutes for an hour. Definitely interested in trying that. But for one month, even though I am only to take the new remedy I am taking for one week, it is meant to be working the entire month, and you can't take any other remedies, drink coffee, use anything mint. They told me I might feel worse also at first, and that's called an "aggravation" which they say is good because, something like it means it's working. Anyway, I just feel a little under the weather, but not really really sick. Just like the beginning of a cold, and the booklet says it can be hard to tell if you are getting sick, or if it's an aggravation, but you usually figure it out in the next few days. I don't know how yet! But I'm looking forward to my sore throat going away! It says it can take awhile before the remedy takes effect for what it's working on (for me, mainly anxiety, but I also go through really down times) and also take a benzo. If that info does anyone any good, very glad to answer any questions!
Take care, Maggie
Posted by holymama on August 3, 2005, at 11:49:17
In reply to Re: I'm trying homeopathy for bipolar, posted by maggie1970 on August 3, 2005, at 8:09:34
Maggie, the rescue remedy protocol is this: 4 drops of rescue remedy in a glass of tap water, take a sip every 5-10 minutes for the next hour. I did feel much calmer and less frantic when I was done.
Good luck with your homeopathy! ~Autumn~
Posted by barbaracat on August 4, 2005, at 22:12:58
In reply to Re: homeopathy, posted by Meri-Tuuli on August 2, 2005, at 17:11:05
I've had some success with homeopathy. Much of my depression on a depth level I've identified with impacted grief going way back to childhood. I've had a couple courses of 10M Ignatia and it's helped, but because it's such a very high dose, it also kicked up some old stuff. Each time I take it I remove another layer.
But the real news is my cat, Jasper. He's a very big fluffy pure white cat who has had a hard time adjusting to new cats as they're abandoned at our place. He pulls his fur out and for a while last winter around 9 pm his pupils would get dilated, his skin and tongue bright red and he would act absolutely crazed and inconsolate. Took him to our homeopathic vet who took one look and said 'Belladonna'. Gave him 30C a few times and he was another cat altogether. When he starts up like that again I give him a dose and within a day he's back to our Bunny. My vet said animals react so much more impressively when you find the right remedy because they're alot less complex than we are. Anyhow, I'm about 90% a believer, but I wouldn't depend on it for my only emotional/biochemical support. - Barbara
Posted by qbsbrown on August 6, 2005, at 15:04:10
In reply to Re: homeopathy - worked for my cat!, posted by barbaracat on August 4, 2005, at 22:12:58
"Anyhow, I'm about 90% a believer, but I wouldn't depend on it for my only emotional/biochemical support"
What else do you depend on? Drugs? Psychotherapy?
Posted by barbaracat on August 6, 2005, at 19:36:48
In reply to Re: homeopathy - worked for my cat!, posted by qbsbrown on August 6, 2005, at 15:04:10
> "Anyhow, I'm about 90% a believer, but I wouldn't depend on it for my only emotional/biochemical support"
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> What else do you depend on? Drugs? Psychotherapy?
>I'm bipolar so I depend especially on lithium. I take a microdose of an antidepressant, Cymbalta, since I don't need much. I also take thyroid hormone and the usual bioidentical sex hormones for menopause. Fish oil, of course. I take animo acids, i.e., taurine, l-tryptophan, L-glycine and a balanced one of 22 others. I take some fairly unsual nutrients as well. I imagine all these extras are doing something positive, but lithium, cymbalta and thyroid, and the other hormones are my mainstays.
I've tried to manage my bipolar condition naturally many times and it didn't work. Life got very difficult for myself and others. One day I may have the key but right now, I'm grateful for lithium.
Posted by maggie1970 on August 11, 2005, at 13:58:08
In reply to Re: homeopathy - worked for my cat!, posted by barbaracat on August 4, 2005, at 22:12:58
Barbara:
When I travel even five minutes to the vet my one cat vomits, and everything else she can do (yuck!!!) and her eyes roll back in her head, that's how nervous she gets. Anything you know of to calm them down before traveling?
Thanks!
Maggie
> I've had some success with homeopathy. Much of my depression on a depth level I've identified with impacted grief going way back to childhood. I've had a couple courses of 10M Ignatia and it's helped, but because it's such a very high dose, it also kicked up some old stuff. Each time I take it I remove another layer.
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> But the real news is my cat, Jasper. He's a very big fluffy pure white cat who has had a hard time adjusting to new cats as they're abandoned at our place. He pulls his fur out and for a while last winter around 9 pm his pupils would get dilated, his skin and tongue bright red and he would act absolutely crazed and inconsolate. Took him to our homeopathic vet who took one look and said 'Belladonna'. Gave him 30C a few times and he was another cat altogether. When he starts up like that again I give him a dose and within a day he's back to our Bunny. My vet said animals react so much more impressively when you find the right remedy because they're alot less complex than we are. Anyhow, I'm about 90% a believer, but I wouldn't depend on it for my only emotional/biochemical support. - Barbara
Posted by barbaracat on August 11, 2005, at 14:21:31
In reply to Re: homeopathy - worked for my cat! » barbaracat, posted by maggie1970 on August 11, 2005, at 13:58:08
There's this stuff called Pet-Tinic which are liquid vitamins that my vet puts a narcotic in. I give a squirt 1/2 before leaving and by the time they're at the vets 40 minutes away, they're nice and mellow and enjoying the experience. Works great.
I've tried tranquilizers but that gets them confused and panicy. I've tried herbs, homeopathics, Calms Forte. I said 'heck with this. Give me what works." This stuff (I think it's butorphanol he mixes in) is safe, a dropperful lasts about 4 hours and just mellows them out enough for everyone's enjoyment. In fact, the little buggers seem to enjoy their trips to the vet now. Ask your vet about it. I could find out the exact specs from mine if you want. > Barbara:
> When I travel even five minutes to the vet my one cat vomits, and everything else she can do (yuck!!!) and her eyes roll back in her head, that's how nervous she gets. Anything you know of to calm them down before traveling?
> Thanks!
> Maggie
> > I've had some success with homeopathy. Much of my depression on a depth level I've identified with impacted grief going way back to childhood. I've had a couple courses of 10M Ignatia and it's helped, but because it's such a very high dose, it also kicked up some old stuff. Each time I take it I remove another layer.
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> > But the real news is my cat, Jasper. He's a very big fluffy pure white cat who has had a hard time adjusting to new cats as they're abandoned at our place. He pulls his fur out and for a while last winter around 9 pm his pupils would get dilated, his skin and tongue bright red and he would act absolutely crazed and inconsolate. Took him to our homeopathic vet who took one look and said 'Belladonna'. Gave him 30C a few times and he was another cat altogether. When he starts up like that again I give him a dose and within a day he's back to our Bunny. My vet said animals react so much more impressively when you find the right remedy because they're alot less complex than we are. Anyhow, I'm about 90% a believer, but I wouldn't depend on it for my only emotional/biochemical support. - Barbara
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