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Posted by noa on December 20, 2003, at 18:33:46
Hi, all.
I believe I have lost hair for years from Effexor XR. I recently started taking Selenium, and more recently, Zinc.
Am I confused? Is one or the other more important in countering hair loss?
How long does it take to see any results?
What have others tried for this?
Thanks.
Posted by gabbix2 on December 20, 2003, at 20:19:43
In reply to Med related hair loss question, posted by noa on December 20, 2003, at 18:33:46
Hi Noa!
I know you're already taking fish oil but I don't know if you take a "B" complex already
if you don't that's important. I take supplemental
B5 too, I think it helps, but there is debate on that.
Silica, which you can get at the health food store, helps with hair and nail growthI use a detox shampoo once a week, to get rid of medication residue. Several companies make them
Joico, Redken, Nioxen. Of course they can't make hair grow in but if your hair is breaking off they can make a difference in that respect.All these have helped me with the side effects from topamax.
Good luck
It sucks..
Posted by Maxime on December 26, 2003, at 13:30:08
In reply to Re: Med related hair loss question, posted by gabbix2 on December 20, 2003, at 20:19:43
Hello. How much of each are you taking? I used the combo myself and saw results in about month. I stopped taking the supplements and now I must restart.
That Nioxin shampoo is also really good. I think it's called scalp cleanser. The conditioner is excellent as well and is minty and tingles!
Maxime
Posted by noa on December 27, 2003, at 15:18:33
In reply to Re: Med related hair loss question, posted by Maxime on December 26, 2003, at 13:30:08
In addition to the supplements of zinc and selenium that I take, my multivitamin also has some in it. Combined, the selenium amount is 150 mcg. and the zinc is 27 mg.
I need to do some reading on this. I really went kind of blindly into this, having heard from folks here that these would help with the hair loss, but I don't know if I need both or is one more important than the other, etc. Plus, having read that abstract about selenium and people with squamous cell skin cancers, which is in my family history (plus I had multiple sunburns as a young child and have the same skin type as my mom who has the squamous cell cancers)......I wonder if I should be taking the selenium supplement.
What amounts do you suggest?
Posted by TeeJay on December 27, 2003, at 19:39:36
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » Maxime, posted by noa on December 27, 2003, at 15:18:33
A "number 2" all over is far less trouble Noa and you get used to it after a while! :-)
TJ
Posted by Maxime on December 27, 2003, at 20:50:33
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » Maxime, posted by noa on December 27, 2003, at 15:18:33
I take 200 mcg of Selenium and 50 mg of Zinc a day. That's what works for me. I'm just going to stay on it regardless of what my hair is doing -lol! I figure the selenium is good for brain function and I have always taken a zinc supplement to boost my immune system since I am anorexic and lacking in a lot of nutrients.
Maxime
Posted by noa on December 27, 2003, at 22:46:32
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » noa, posted by TeeJay on December 27, 2003, at 19:39:36
Huh?
Posted by TeeJay on December 28, 2003, at 14:06:15
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » TeeJay, posted by noa on December 27, 2003, at 22:46:32
As in anumber 2 on the clippers that rookie soldiers get. Never mind though, it seemed funnier at the time after a beer or two. :-)
TJ
Posted by tealady on January 13, 2004, at 5:59:04
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » noa, posted by TeeJay on December 28, 2003, at 14:06:15
> As in anumber 2 on the clippers that rookie soldiers get. Never mind though, it seemed funnier at the time after a beer or two. :-)
>
> TJ
Hi Phil,
Some guys shave their heads when they partly lose their hair and they reckon it makes them look younger and in fashion...but it's not really a terrific option for us girls.
BTW..liked your post in admin..it disappeared to here
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20031120/msgs/297479.html
I'd been thinking along much the same lines for a while..I'm relatively new too.
I posted http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20031120/msgs/293052.html
and http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040112/msgs/300083.htmlI'm uncomfortable posting here, but, my babblemail (click on tealady) is on. I just wanted to let you know I appreciated your post.
BTW from another of your posts
"I've taken one 500mg tablet of tryptophan each morning on an empty stomach.......cant say I've noticed much of a reaction yet though after just two doses, just seems to make me a bit sleepy and sluggish. Am I taking it at the right time or is it better to take it later int he evening? Comments welcome."I haven't personally taken any tryptophan ...but I think you are supposed to usually take it at night..it should make you sleepy I think.
The tradional concept of dessert say 15 minutes after a large protein and vege meal is probably as it works by providing some uptake of the serotonin into the brain...and give you a good sleep (ever felt sleepy after Xmas lunch and dessert? I think this is at least partly why)..so I'm guessing but tryptophan should probably be taken at night for the same reason ...and tyrosine in the morning or not much after lunch as that is stimulating.
I've taken tyrsoine but not tryptophan..although I do try to eat high serotonin foods at night and follow by something sweet...boy that is hard to take, lol.You could try using google to research this site on tryptophan as I think the time has been mentioned before.
Jan
Posted by TeeJay on January 13, 2004, at 18:44:46
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » TeeJay, posted by tealady on January 13, 2004, at 5:59:04
Hi Jan,
Very kind remarks, thanks and nice to hear from you! I hope alls well with you and the new year is treating you kindly.
Ladies with a crewcut dont always look bad, remember sinaed O'conner? YOu also cant use staying in to wash your hair as an excuse for not being sociable! LOL
I shouldnt really have posted in admin at all. A terrible trait of mine is getting embroiled in pointless arguments, often ones which have little to do with me. Having said that, even though LArry has not replied much to me directly, his remarks on the whole benefit this board a great deal and this board wouldnt be the same without his input. I'm also sure that one or two other valued posters like Ron might also vanish in sympathy, and so the decline would continue.
Another interesting note was how large the admin board is, and how its just full of arguments, and thinly veiled nastiness. I have little intention of ever looking at that board again as I see it as a "negative place".
Tryptophan....hmmm, pretty much given up on it for now in favour of alcohol. Yeah I know, no answers at the bottom of a beer bottle but its giving me a bit of a break from my symptoms whilst they are at their worst in these dark winter months. I'm also sleeping like a log! To be fair i've not drunk much for years, but i got bought some over christmas and have got into the habit of chilling out in front of the PC with a beer (or 8 LOL).
I am taking Piracetam and Hydergine each morning on an empty stomach although I'm not sure they are having much of an effect. I feel sort of more confident in myself but also more edgy if that makes any sense. How can I explain it? Its like my fight of flight response is in a bit of a jittery state, I can be talking to someone and just feel like thumping them for no reason. The only explanation I can come up with is the state of alert that a state of anxiety puts one into. Of course i've never thumped anyone, but the constant feeling is at best described as irritating and tiring.
I hope you dont mind me posting this here by the way, I feel that disappearing off to have private conflabs all the while dont actually benefit the board, but if you'd prefer to talk privately then just say so and I will of course honour your wishes.
Oh, if I recall you said you were UK based? Same here, I'm from Redditch.
Kind Regards
TJ
Posted by tealady on January 16, 2004, at 6:35:42
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss, posted by TeeJay on January 13, 2004, at 18:44:46
> Hi Jan,
>
> Very kind remarks, thanks and nice to hear from you! I hope alls well with you and the new year is treating you kindly.Lovely to hear from you and hope you've had a good new year too.
>
> Ladies with a crewcut dont always look bad, remember sinaed O'conner? YOu also cant use staying in to wash your hair as an excuse for not being sociable! LOLhmmm guess I'll have to keep what hair I have left then or think of a more original excuse then, huh?
>
> I shouldnt really have posted in admin at all.me 2
A terrible trait of mine is getting embroiled in pointless arguments, often ones which have little to do with me. Having said that, even though LArry has not replied much to me directly, his remarks on the whole benefit this board a great deal and this board wouldnt be the same without his input. I'm also sure that one or two other valued posters like Ron might also vanish in sympathy, and so the decline would continue.
>yes a terrible trait <grin>, and yes, agree
> Another interesting note was how large the admin board is, and how its just full of arguments, and thinly veiled nastiness. I have little intention of ever looking at that board again as I see it as a "negative place".
yes it is..an upsetting place. I find social almost as bad at times. Funny how some people can be affected by it and others can't seem to sense anything wrong at all. I'm probably just oversensitive or something. ..much more prefer to call a spade a spade than to suffer the civil, as you put it "thinly veiled nastiness"
>
> Tryptophan....hmmm, pretty much given up on it for now in favour of alcohol. Yeah I know, no answers at the bottom of a beer bottle but its giving me a bit of a break from my symptoms whilst they are at their worst in these dark winter months. I'm also sleeping like a log! To be fair i've not drunk much for years, but i got bought some over christmas and have got into the habit of chilling out in front of the PC with a beer (or 8 LOL).<<now , why do you need to chill out over there in winter..just step outside?>>
yeah, agree about the alcohol.... effective but only for the short term unfortunately. If I find myself hitting it for too long, I go and read on an alcohol forum to help me stop <g>...but then I've always been able to stop
My youngest brother could never stop if he started drinking at any time..so he doesn't touch the stuff now.>
> I am taking Piracetam and Hydergine each morning on an empty stomach although I'm not sure they are having much of an effect. I feel sort of more confident in myself but also more edgy if that makes any sense. How can I explain it? Its like my fight of flight response is in a bit of a jittery state, I can be talking to someone and just feel like thumping them for no reason.
well I'm glad I'm talking to you on the net then! <g>..I've known people who are like that without any drugsThe only explanation I can come up with is the state of alert that a state of anxiety puts one into. Of course i've never thumped anyone, but the constant feeling is at best described as irritating and tiring.
yes, I think anxiety is a part of it.
I haven't tried either piracetam or hydergine so I'm afraid I'm not much help there.
I'm on SJW and tyrosine..as well as thyroid meds, and other hormones, vitamins, oils (like fish oil) etc.
Guess anxiety is my worse thing at present too...but I know, in me, it's partly a sign of low oestrogen. But I can't see that being your problem. <g>
The SJW works pretty effectively against the depression at present and helps keep me awake in the daytime too..but it doesn't seem to help much with the anxiety I think.>
> I hope you dont mind me posting this here by the way, I feel that disappearing off to have private conflabs all the while dont actually benefit the board, but if you'd prefer to talk privately then just say so and I will of course honour your wishes.I wasn't really suggesting going off to talk privately...just I have been thinking of leaving for a while now..and I was just trying to say goodbye (if I can just stop posting), and let folks know if there was anything they didn't understand about my posts etc..just to email me. (hey, but most were on female type topics). I've been wanting to answer a couple of your posts and I appreciated your post on admin..it echoed a bit some of my thoughts.
A least I've managed to cut back on my posts. I'm very uncomfortable posting here the way things are. It took me a while to realise this forum is very different as I'd always stayed on babble or alter for a while.
>
> Oh, if I recall you said you were UK based? Same here, I'm from Redditch.Well that's central. No, I have posted to a few folk from the UK so I understand the health care system over there ..I'm from Australia <g>. Hoping one day to visit over there.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> TJBest wishes and take care with that alcohol (err hot beer?), Jan
Posted by tealady on January 16, 2004, at 6:45:51
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss, posted by TeeJay on January 13, 2004, at 18:44:46
Forgot,
Psychophysicist in thread below seems to prefer Picamilon over Piracitam ..perhaps it doesn't stimulate as much?
also The only thing that seems to help relax me and help me sleep is calcium/magnesium at bedtime..but I'm sure you've heard of that one.I had the problem of always falling asleep and tried NADH,which was effective, but exxy..as I have to import from the US. My most recent addition has been niacinamide, which seems effective too..but the anxiety has increased. I wonder if that is related or just coincidental.
Best wishes, Jan
Posted by TeeJay on January 18, 2004, at 16:43:04
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » TeeJay, posted by tealady on January 16, 2004, at 6:45:51
Hi Jan,
Nice to hear from you and thanks for replying. Australia eh? Hmmm, not sure how I had you down as a pom! LOL
I've ditched the grog now and have not drunk for 3 days now. Dont get me wrong, I dont have a drink problem, its just that I have what i'd describe as an addictive personality, ie I smoked for many years, cant open a packet of biscuits without finished them off etc etc, and the last thing I want to do is end up in that kind of situation with drink. A case of an ounce of prevention being better than a pound of cure I think. Nice to have had the blow out though.
Felt better today than i've felt in some weeks, although I stil have this real serious kind of jittery feeling. Hard to explain, but a restless kind of feeling which makes me want to do something but I have no idea what!
Started taking the tryptophan at night now (2 x 500mg) but its only been 3 or 4 days so not sure if there has been any effect yet. Still doing the piracetam and hydergina in the mornings too but dont think they are doing much either. I've done magnesium, zinc, B6, B3, ginkgo, SJW, 5HTP and loads of others but cant seem to find that one "potion" that really makes a difference :-(
Anyway, enough about me, how are you, and are you resisting the temptation to post in that awful hell hole known to many a wayward soul as the admin board??? LOL
Regards
Phil
Posted by tealady on January 18, 2004, at 20:43:11
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » tealady, posted by TeeJay on January 18, 2004, at 16:43:04
Hi Phil,
Hmmm, not sure how I had you down as a pom! LOL
me either..guess under the "you've got ancestors" bit I'm part Pom.. Welsh, Irish etc. Grandmother from Manchester. Otherwise a few generations Australian. Perhaps it was my spelling?
>
> I've ditched the grog now and have not drunk for 3 days now.congrats
>
> Dont get me wrong, I dont have a drink problem, its just that I have what i'd describe as an addictive personality, ie I smoked for many years, cant open a packet of biscuits without finished them off etc etc,I was always like that with chocolate. I've just begun to be able to control that. Not sure what I added that allowed that to be controlled. I know it wasn't magnesium ..as one would expect it to be.
Perhaps niacinamide? Does that make sense to annyone?
Everything else I could always control if I wanted to.>
> and the last thing I want to do is end up in that kind of situation with drink. A case of an ounce of prevention being better than a pound of cure I think.yes agree..I understood what you were saying. It's good to remind oneself isn't it.
Guess my last time was last night ...but it didn't take much to affect me as I was a tad on the hypo side.
With some folk who have thyroid problems , we can tell how hypo or hyper we are by how quickly we are affected by alcohol. At least I've spoken to others who experience the same.
If too hypo..it really only takes me 1/2 glass before speech gets slurry stage is reached..
If hyper..hey I could drink everyone under the table and still be sober.
..it's one of my measures of how to adjust meds. Who needs blood tests?Also the alcohol, I think from memory, makes one feel better as it enhances the effect of thyroid hormones(T3) in the brain somehow...which would lift depression etc. One of the many ways it works I guess.
>
>Nice to have had the blow out though.
Yes..it helps, but I'd prefer other ways>
> Felt better today than I've felt in some weeks, although I still have this real serious kind of jittery feeling. Hard to explain, but a restless kind of feeling which makes me want to do something but I have no idea what!Yes I get that too...sorry I haven't figured it out either. It means I'm feeling fairly good though. I go for walks etc. but its not enough. Need to get fitter so I can exercise more strenuously..but I know that's not the whole answer. I think I've always been a bit that way anyway. If you figure it out..let me know!
>
> Started taking the tryptophan at night now (2 x 500mg) but its only been 3 or 4 days so not sure if there has been any effect yet. Still doing the piracetam and hydergina in the mornings too but dont think they are doing much either. I've done magnesium, zinc, B6, B3, ginkgo, SJW, 5HTP and loads of others but cant seem to find that one "potion" that really makes a difference :-(I think if you're taking tryptophan at night, perhaps you should make sure you take most of the magnesium then..perhaps with some calcium as well,
and take the B6, zinc, B3, SJW , multiB, smaller dose of magnesium ..in the morning. Just suggestions, but you've probably worked that out.
Tyrosine in the morning helped me too..for a boost and an appetite suppressant..but it can make one aggro if you don't need it..like fly off at nothing. I know it gives me a bit more aggression..or allows me to stand up for myself more...and that's with only 375mg.
>
> Anyway, enough about me, how are you, and are you resisting the temptation to post in that awful hell hole known to many a wayward soul as the admin board??? LOLNo sigh, I just posted again before posting this to you.
Best wishes, Jan
Posted by TeeJay on January 19, 2004, at 19:51:09
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » TeeJay, posted by tealady on January 18, 2004, at 20:43:11
Hi Jan,
I didnt know about the thyroid thing and ones ability to consume alcohol. I've always been able to tolerate huge units of spirits whilst very unable to tolerate beer in anywhere near the same quantity (measured of corse in units rather than voume).
I've not had my thyroid checked for over a decade, in fact i've pretty much given up completely with doctors over here. They either look at the M.E. diagnosis and say they can do nothing or note the depression aspect and try and palm me off with some Prozac. I could kick up a stink of course, but then i'd just be labelled an "awkward patient", so I choose not to bother with them at all.
I think you misunderstood my remarks about the SJW, magnesium etc by the way. I dont take them now, but have tried them all in the past with little success. My remark was mainly that I have yet to find the one supplement or mix of items that really make the big difference to my health and help me move forward in a meaningful way.
Once or twice recently i've had a trawl through the archives to see what people have tried and how people have reacted to various things. One of the most recent threads I read was on Tyrosine. Curiously I get that kind of feeling without any supplements and tried Tyrosine a few months ago and it certainly didnt make those feelings any worse (i cant remember if it improved them though unfortunately). I do however recall a recent thread (I think it was with Ron Hill) where a mix of Tryptophan and Tyrosine was useful, I think to increase both serotonin AND dopamine. I'm tempted to get a bottle of tyrosine and add it in whilst i'm on the tryptophan to see if there is any notable difference.
Everytime you get the urge to post on the admin board, go and have a bar of chocolate instead, its far better for you for sure!!
Regards
Phil
Posted by tealady on January 20, 2004, at 20:36:01
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » tealady, posted by TeeJay on January 19, 2004, at 19:51:09
> Hi Jan,
>
> I didnt know about the thyroid thing and ones ability to consume alcohol. I've always been able to tolerate huge units of spirits whilst very unable to tolerate beer in anywhere near the same quantity (measured of corse in units rather than voume).Strange, I wonder if there is something in beer you may be sensitive (as in allergic) to? I'm like that with some wines..I did figure out what is was once..but I've forgotten now. ..probably a preservative.
(Do you guys really drink warm beer?)
>
> I've not had my thyroid checked for over a decade, in fact i've pretty much given up completely with doctors over here. They either look at the M.E. diagnosis and say they can do nothing or note the depression aspect and try and palm me off with some Prozac. I could kick up a stink of course, but then i'd just be labelled an "awkward patient", so I choose not to bother with them at all.I had those labels too..until I worked it out.
I got so bad figured it was either kick up a stink or die, I couldn't go on.
I ended up going to a doc trained in Germany ..who cover more alternative stuff in their medical degrees I think...and after I crawled into surgery she said she would treat me and just bulk bill me. She would be the equivalent of a private (non NHS) doc in the UK. Last time she told me I always used to look so ill...and now I look well.I'm still in the kicking up a stink phase...although now my local doc even can see a phsical difference in me ..he mumbles that what I have followed is science not medicine(hey?).... Well I guess he can set bones.
I'm not "typical" thyroid either...more (I think) nitrates/nitrites and methaemoglobulin ..which can destroy thyroid hormones and alter your iron ..so I need to drip feed thyroid hormones or I function as hypothyroid.(at least that's what I think at present)
..although I do have antibodies as well and may have been hyperthyroid as a teenager...hence the remarks about being able to drink and stay relatively sober.>
> I think you misunderstood my remarks about the SJW, magnesium etc by the way. I dont take them now, but have tried them all in the past with little success. My remark was mainly that I have yet to find the one supplement or mix of items that really make the big difference to my health and help me move forward in a meaningful way.Sorry, I didn't misunderstand, I guess I was being lazy with that answer. But I won't be around here much (if at all after my last post on admin)..and I thought I'd just summarise in case it helped anyone or you in any way.
I do understand you haven't been able to find anything or any mix that makes a significant difference. Sometimes that is bacause there is something elsethat is wrong..and once that is fixed ..we can benefit more from the "mix".
e.g. I think Jlx said she had to get onto high doses magnesium, before she saw the benefits of other things. with me it would be hormones.
If you do ever look at thyroid hormones or antibodies (like TPO) ..you can also email me your results..with "normal range" doesn't always mean "normal". But with thyroid there is usually physical symptoms ..like cold hands, feet, fibromyalgia like pains, etc..Of course having those symptoms alone doesn't mean it is either.The other thing that made a big difference to me was iron supplementation as my ferritin was below 50 (actually 10). This is rare in males though, but being so, means it is missed.
Oh and oestrogen was the other(guess that would be testosterone in males) ..all make a big difference with depression, fatigue, ME type symptoms
> Once or twice recently i've had a trawl through the archives to see what people have tried and how people have reacted to various things. One of the most recent threads I read was on Tyrosine. Curiously I get that kind of feeling without any supplements and tried Tyrosine a few months ago and it certainly didnt make those feelings any worse (i cant remember if it improved them though unfortunately). I do however recall a recent thread (I think it was with Ron Hill) where a mix of Tryptophan and Tyrosine was useful, I think to increase both serotonin AND dopamine. I'm tempted to get a bottle of tyrosine and add it in whilst i'm on the tryptophan to see if there is any notable difference.Yes, that is why I mentioned tryosine.
Also if it is some kinda borderline thyroid problem ..tyrosine alone..or better still tryosine with selenium may fix it.
I mention selenium particularly as it is known that England is low on it..and that in the past few years with sourcing from the EU(soil content of selenium low) instead of Nth.America the selenium content in the diet of those in England has reached too low levels ..or so I've heard.I think tyrosine in the morning ..say 500mg to start with and tryptophan at night, as Ron is doing, is worth a try.
I would have tried tryptophan but last year (I think) they moved it to prescription only instead of otc..and I got prescribed Remeron..which I won't take.>
> Everytime you get the urge to post on the admin board, go and have a bar of chocolate instead, its far better for you for sure!!
Thanks..good advice..I should have done that..but after reading some recent posts on here... I just had to have one last say...that was definitely the last!I've really enjoyed chatting with you,
Jan
Posted by tealady on January 21, 2004, at 4:18:15
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » tealady, posted by TeeJay on January 19, 2004, at 19:51:09
Hmmmm well I did put a long post in Admin..and it seemed to get there from the message on my computer, but when I did look, it was not there. I guess it could have got lost.
Doubt if I can reproduce anything like it..what a pity.
Jan
Posted by TeeJay on January 21, 2004, at 21:24:43
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss, posted by tealady on January 20, 2004, at 20:36:01
Hi Jan,
LOL, no we don't drink warm beer.......is it true all you shiela's drink sherry?
Labels! Doctors just cant seem to cope with dealing with people as individuals, they seem lost unless they can conveniently slide people into a pigeon hole of one sort or another. Not only that, but if any potential treatment doesn't fall into a pigeon hole either, they really get in a tizzy!!!
I was seeing a homeopath but he although he is very good, I felt he was always soooo busy that he didn't give me the attention I needed. That might sound a little ungrateful, specially as he would waive the fees from time to time to help me out and stuff, but sometimes I didn't need his potions, all I needed was for him to place a calming hand on my shoulder and give me a few minutes of his reassurance and "positive Chi" if that makes sense. Perhaps I'll begin writing to him again (he's 500km from where I live) and see what he suggests.I'm really pleased you are making enough progress that even the docs are noticing it (they normally don't notice a thing unless you start going blue!), it must be really uplifting for you to actually be making forward progress. I'm not in that position just yet. I stall its progress sometimes but I've not yet felt that I've actually turned the flow around yet, hence my remarks about a combo that actually makes a real difference still eluding me.
Hmmm, cold hands and feet or fibromyalgia pains. I can associate with those!
Your remarks about hormones interested me actually. I recall reading an article once which spoke of a man who suffered a testosterone problem in the brain causing him to have urges to do people serious harm, even people he liked very much. His was a very severe case, but I was thinking about the old tyrosine side effect (And my periodic symptom) of feeling like thumping someone I was taking to, even though I had no desire to do so. I had just assumed it was an anxiety problem causing the old fight or flight response to have me on that state of alert, but perhaps a testosterone abnormality could be an alternative avenue to look at? Might also explain why my sex drive is through the roof too! LOL
Although I've run out of selenium, its something I've taken on and off for a couple of years, mainly as I smoked very heavily and its reportedly good as a safeguard from lung cancer. To be frank though it didn't seem to have any discernable anti anxiety effects though.
I have to say though, having winged and moaned my way through this post, that I am feeling a little more chilled out and relaxed at the moment so perhaps the old tryptophan is slowly, slowly beginning to work its magic?
I've enjoyed talking to you too Jan. You keep away from that nasty admin board with all its bad karma and stay here where the company is good and the beer is COLD :-)
Regards
Phil
Posted by terrics on February 6, 2004, at 20:13:12
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » Maxime, posted by noa on December 27, 2003, at 15:18:33
My pdoc told me to take zinc and selenium for hair loss due to lithium. She said to take a small amount of each. I went to the health food store and asked for the smallest doses. I have been taking the stuff for 2 wks and am finally noticing a difference. The bathroom sink no longer has more hair than my head. terrics
Posted by TeeJay on February 6, 2004, at 21:34:01
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » noa, posted by terrics on February 6, 2004, at 20:13:12
Have you checked in the mirror to makes sure there is still some left on your head? LOL
ONly kidding, I take selenium and zinc myself but have not noticed if its affected my hair or not.....i'll monitor it now and see.
Teejay
Posted by terrics on February 7, 2004, at 10:50:26
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » terrics, posted by TeeJay on February 6, 2004, at 21:34:01
Yes TeeJay I have at least 3 hairs left and they are not falling out. lol terrics
Posted by noa on February 7, 2004, at 14:21:55
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss » TeeJay, posted by terrics on February 7, 2004, at 10:50:26
I am not sure if there has been a difference. I *think*, on the basis of how much hair I've had to clean off the bathroom floor, etc., that it is beginning to make a difference.
Also, I have a lot of short hairs now. I don't know if they're broken ones or new ones growing in. I hope the latter.
But there isn't any dramatic change. I'll keep watching. I need to get more systematic about noticing how much hair cleaned up, or in my brush, over how much time.
Posted by joebob on February 7, 2004, at 19:58:48
In reply to Re: Zinc and Selenium for AD hair loss, posted by noa on February 7, 2004, at 14:21:55
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