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Posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 21:29:12
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:48:22
I have no idea who you unless you changed your name a long time ago. Let this thread die. P
Posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 21:31:04
In reply to Re: How » Dinah, posted by johnj1 on December 21, 2009, at 20:50:06
I made a general statement about the access deputies have for private information.
How could I comment on the particulars of any situation?
Also Phillipa didn't say a deputy did that. She said she was told something along those lines. I have no idea who said what to whom. I don't want to know. Therefore, I'm not commenting on particulars.
I made a general statement.
Posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 10:06:44
In reply to Re: How » johnj1, posted by Dinah on December 21, 2009, at 21:31:04
Actually she did say a deputy gave out private information. But since you are saying this is not possible I find this interesting to say the least.
"I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy"
Posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2009, at 10:40:45
In reply to Re: How, posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 10:06:44
Right johnj, as Dinah was saying, Phillipa said the *****other***** **person** or **poster** STATED the info was given to her by a deputy....
Do you see the difference??
We do not know. People state a LOT of interesting things at varying levels of accuracy, either on purpose, or through poor memory.
WE simply do not know.
We do not know if this other person was mistaken, was telling an untruth, or something else entirely.
We do not know if Phillipa is misremembering.
We do not know if this other **person** or **poster** thought the third party (if such a party existed) was a deputy and they were not. We do not even know if someone stated to someone they *were* a deputy when they were not.
There are also many and simple ways to find out a person's address through sleuthing on the internet, without ANYONE at PB providing any information.
We do not know what transpired at all.
I can also tell you, however, as a former deputy, we had ZERO access to that information as Dinah said. Zero. Nip. Nada. Impossible. So, someone along the line was mistaken or inaccurate about that one portion.
As for this whole topic, I classify it as gossip and am uncomfortable I even chose to participate to this tiny degree. Gossip is.....insidious in its ability to grow and do harm, and I don't think anyone here wants that.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2009, at 12:23:02
In reply to Re: How » johnj1, posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2009, at 10:40:45
> As for this whole topic, I classify it as gossip and am uncomfortable I even chose to participate to this tiny degree. Gossip is.....insidious in its ability to grow and do harm, and I don't think anyone here wants that.
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10derheart,You're right. Thank you for speaking despite your discomfort. I needed that reminder.
fb
Posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 17:37:46
In reply to Re: How » johnj1, posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2009, at 10:40:45
"As for this whole topic, I classify it as gossip and am uncomfortable I even chose to participate to this tiny degree. Gossip is.....insidious in its ability to grow and do harm, and I don't think anyone here wants that."
Let's all have no opinions and just keep the peace. That is not how we get better. I think you know there is a problem but refuse to confront it.
There are other things that are insidious to the board and others have expressed their concern but it is always ignored or they get the finger shaking "you are uncivil". So they stop trying or just leave.
Yes, this whole thread was made up gossip. Thanks for missing the point when other posters have come out and said they don't like what is going on and are frustrated. They are always shouted down.
We should be allowed to say what we want. If we do things that irritate other posters they should be allowed to express it without Dr. Bob's threats of blocking them. We are shackled in this regard. To me, this is more disruptive.
Posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 17:41:09
In reply to Re: How, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
"poster sent the police to my old address "
why in the world didn't you tell Bob about this??? I don't remember you even posting about it. I would have been screaming my blooming head off!
Posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 21:13:03
In reply to Re: How, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
I know you babble mailed your reply to my question, but I don't want to go that route.
If you are comfortable, how about just posting that reply? All the behind the scenes stuff just causes problems.
Bay
Posted by Phillipa on December 22, 2009, at 21:46:14
In reply to Re: How - your response » Phillipa, posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 21:13:03
No problem said I didn't live there anymore but if did would have to the above. Been really angry. Phillipa
Posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 22:04:58
In reply to Re: How - your response » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 22, 2009, at 21:46:14
So you don't know if police were sent? Some poster just emailed you saying saying they were? That's really wierd!
Bay
Posted by Phillipa on December 22, 2009, at 22:06:50
In reply to Re: How - your response » Phillipa, posted by BayLeaf on December 22, 2009, at 22:04:58
Yup agree. Still got that babblemail too. In a safe place. Phillipa it will stay there also
Posted by 10derHeart on December 23, 2009, at 5:30:56
In reply to Re: How » 10derHeart, posted by floatingbridge on December 22, 2009, at 12:23:02
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 23, 2009, at 5:32:14
In reply to Re: How » 10derHeart, posted by johnj1 on December 22, 2009, at 17:37:46
> I think you know there is a problem but refuse to confront it.
>
> Thanks for missing the pointWould anyone like to try to show john how he might interpret things more charitably, encourage him to apologize, or suggest he not address those he can't get along with? You may have the power to help him avoid being blocked again.
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> We should be allowed to say what we want. If we do things that irritate other posters they should be allowed to express it without Dr. Bob's threats of blocking them. We are shackled in this regard.
It's true that freedom of speech is limited here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
I can see how that could be experienced as being shackled, but the idea here is mutual support, not mutual irritation.
Bob
Posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 14:21:27
In reply to Re: How » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 21, 2009, at 19:24:15
> > I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy. This is something I could have reported but didn't.
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> Did they have a reason to be worried about you? If you'd like me to look into it, I'd be glad to. I think the deputies have been great, but no one's perfect. Thanks,
>
> BobThat was me who did that. Phillipa was threatening to take an OD of Serzone. I spent all night talking to the polica and trying to track her down. This was some time ago. Phillipa I am sorry if you thought it was wrong of me to do this, but I was really worried that you were going to OD. Although we may have had our differences, I certainly don't want anything bad to happen to you. At that time I didn't know about the report button that you could use and I also felt time was of the essence because you said you were going to OD.
Posted by BayLeaf on December 23, 2009, at 18:48:52
In reply to Re: How, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 14:21:27
TY for shedding light on the other side of the story. Sure makes a lot more sense now!
bay
Posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:03:24
In reply to Re: How, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 13:06:07
> Last time I will remark on this thread but for two years I have a babblemail where a poster sent the police to my old address in a different part of the state? Person stated the info was given to her by a deputy. This is something I could have reported but didn't. And no I won't sent or post copies. Who knows what troubles the person might have been going through at the time? Phillipa
My troubles at the time were YOU. You said you were going to OD on Serzone. I was racing around in my part of the world trying to save yours. Do you think I just decided I would track you down and call the police for no reason. You can't threaten to actively again in suicidal behaviours and not expect someone to react. I guess you just wanted the attention at the time, I don't know. But I would never post on a group that I was going to OD (although I would post that I was thinking about it). I remember feeling so powerless at that time wondering if you had taken enough Serzone to kill you. Most people would be grateful that someone went out of their way to help you, but think you should have reported it???????? By all means, report it.
Posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:14:32
In reply to Re: How » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:03:24
Here's the thread
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20071225/msgs/803497.html
Posted by johnj1 on December 23, 2009, at 21:41:44
In reply to Re: How » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:03:24
I am sorry this happened. I would explain what I think is going on but I can't because I will get blocked. I probably shouldn't care about that but one does hate to be singled out for stating an opinion.
Anyway if you see how this thread started you will have your answer.
I hope all of this did not upset you too much. Have a Merry Christmas.
Posted by polarbear206 on December 23, 2009, at 23:31:44
In reply to Re: How, posted by johnj1 on December 23, 2009, at 21:41:44
> I am sorry this happened. I would explain what I think is going on but I can't because I will get blocked. I probably shouldn't care about that but one does hate to be singled out for stating an opinion.
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> Anyway if you see how this thread started you will have your answer.
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> I hope all of this did not upset you too much. Have a Merry Christmas.
Ditto from me too. :)
Posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:29:21
In reply to Re: How, posted by Maxime on December 23, 2009, at 21:14:32
You ARE a jewel! You showed such caring for reaching out like that!
I'm so sorry I misunderstood the story earlier. I should not have jumped to conclusions w/o having both sides of the story.
Bay
Posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:40:52
In reply to Re: How - your response » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 22, 2009, at 22:06:50
I'm sorry to see what a bad time you were going through 2 years ago. Feeling that low is horrible. I imagine having that brought up now might be upsetting.
And feeling lonely, hurt or sad this time of year really sucks. No one should feel that way. I think this thread may feel very ostracizing for you. That's not supposed to be the purpose of a mental health site. Nope, you aren't perfect, but none of us are. I'm sure ain't. That's why we are here. I know that I need to work on improving and strengthing myself...so,
I'm remembering the the season, the reason this place exists, the reason we all came here, and doing some deep breathing.
I'm doing my best to work on forgiveness and acceptance in 2010. I think I'll start now.
Namaste
Bay
Posted by Dinah on December 24, 2009, at 9:15:34
In reply to To Phillipa and all, posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:40:52
That was lovely, Bayleaf.
I think that's something I should also wish for myself in 2010.
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
In reply to To Phillipa and all, posted by BayLeaf on December 24, 2009, at 7:40:52
Bay I thought this the best place to also jump in again. Yes it's true was going through bad times and yes this hurts I'd be lieing or denying if I didn't tell the truth. Now Maxime after you posted that thread I throughly read it and see how supportive you were of me. I feel I block bad things in the past. I did this in the incident. I then looked back in our correspondences and tend to forget a lot hence find it helpful to be able to refer back refreshes my mind. I'm so sorry you were up all night trying to find and help me. I also saw that the babblemail I mentioned about the deputy was an e-mail so doesn't count. And you looked back in telephone directories to try and find me. You know no one ever has cared enough to do that for me family included and I can only profusely apolgize. I see how we too sometimes argued and made up privately. Thanks. I could also mention others here that we argue in private and then make up the same way. What can I do but publically apologize to all. I do apologize can you all forgive me? As I care for you all and this site means a lot to me as it does also to others. Yes I also post a lot. I guess it's part of my anxiety and some Ocd. And fears. But you all are wonderful people. We all have problems. Can we start over? Please? I forgive all even if you don't like me. I understand we sometimes need to vent and that I make a lot of mistakes use poor judgement. Thanks all your're truly wonderful people. Love Jan/Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on December 24, 2009, at 12:50:26
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
I'm sorry I got upset with you in this thread. You were in a bad place two years ago and I did care about your well being. I would do the same thing for you now if it happened again. Luckily I don't think you are in that dark place that we both know so well.
It's in the past. Let's leave it there.
Happy Christmas to you Phillipa. I hope you have a healthy 2010.
Hugs,
Maxime
Posted by RocketMan on December 24, 2009, at 13:09:35
In reply to Re: To Phillipa and all » BayLeaf, posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2009, at 12:26:19
Hi Phillipa,
As originator of this thread, I wish to express my appreciation for your apology. I do understand that may of us may at one time or another, post something others may find inappropriate, I know I have. Like you mentioned, our illness is why we are all here and sometimes it gets the better of us.
In no way did I expect this thread to develop into a mud-slinging affair. I believe you are sincere in your apology and hope we can continue to share our experiences.
Please have a wonderful Christmas with your family and all the best in the New Year.Regards, Rocket (Rick)
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