![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 25 of 52. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by Minnie-Haha on June 16, 2005, at 10:47:36
I'm getting out of here, but I will keep my account open for a while so anyone who'd like to can Babblemail me.
Minnie
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 12:20:38
In reply to Re: Happy trails to you » Minnie-Haha, posted by Dinah on June 16, 2005, at 10:51:15
Friends,
I am requesting that you consider the following before you post to this thread.
A. what the reasons that you think they are that the poster is leaving and what Dinah meant by {he}
B. if any of those reasons that you may think they are, involve another person here, be it me or anyone else, that you examine the reason closly as to consider if the reason:
1.has the potential to defame that other person
2.has the potential to be considered to fall in the catagory of "scapegoating"
3.has the potential to arrouse ill-will toward that other person
Lou
Posted by TamaraJ on June 16, 2005, at 12:36:05
In reply to Lou's response to an aspectof this thread-scapgot?, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 12:20:38
without people's well-wishes being scrutinized. Although I do not feel that I am obligated to respond to your question, I will as a courtesy. In my post, I was referring to my assumption that frustrations with admin issues and policies may play a part in Minnie's departure, although I may well be wrong (yes, I am fallible).
I would very much appreciate it if Minnie could have her good-bye thread, and, should anything contained therein cause you concern, that you start a thread of your own to request a determination.
All the best to you Lou.
Tamara
Posted by Dinah on June 16, 2005, at 13:01:30
In reply to Lou's response to an aspectof this thread-scapgot?, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 12:20:38
Lou, you are not "he". Dr. Bob is "he".
I should have made that more clear.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 15:57:16
In reply to Re: Lou, please, can Minnie just say good-bye » Lou Pilder, posted by TamaraJ on June 16, 2005, at 12:36:05
Tamara,
You wrote,[...my {assumption} that...administrative issues and policies...].
Could you clarify what caused you to assume that?
Lou
Posted by rainbowbrite on June 16, 2005, at 16:01:49
In reply to Lou's reply to Tamara-asum » TamaraJ, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 15:57:16
Lou,
Can ask you why you are asking Tamara what caused her assumptions?
rain
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 16:19:38
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Tamara-asum » Lou Pilder, posted by rainbowbrite on June 16, 2005, at 16:01:49
rainbowbright,
You wrote, [...can I ask you...asking Tamara...caused her assumptions?...].
You can ask me.
Can you rule out, by what was posted before Dinah revealed that the "he" that she was referring to was Dr. Hsiung, that the "he" could have the potential for others to think that the "he" was me?
Now in Tamara's {assumption}, did she not bring in the administrative situation that I could have been a party in some way to?.
Could you rule out that the poster's leaving does not have anything at all to do with me?
If there are going to assumptions made, could we not explore what is precipitating these assumptions?
Lou
Posted by TamaraJ on June 16, 2005, at 16:25:56
In reply to Lou's reply to rainbowbright-precipasum » rainbowbrite, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 16:19:38
Hi Lou,
Rest assured, Lou, I did not have you in mind when I assumed that administrative policies and issues could be at the root of Minnie's departure. So, there was certainly no hidden message or subtle innuendo contained my post. It was a general statement, and that is really all I have to say about it.
Take care, Lou.
Tamara
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 16:29:10
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to rainbowbright-precipasum » Lou Pilder, posted by TamaraJ on June 16, 2005, at 16:25:56
Tamara,
You wrote,[...I did not have you in mind when I assumed...]
Thank you for rulling that out for me.
Lou
Posted by rainbowbrite on June 16, 2005, at 16:34:47
In reply to Lou's reply to rainbowbright-precipasum » rainbowbrite, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 16:19:38
Can you rule out, by what was posted before Dinah revealed that the "he" that she was referring to was Dr. Hsiung, that the "he" could have the potential for others to think that the "he" was me?
Well I assumed he was Bob as well, but after rereading it I supose anything is possible
> Now in Tamara's {assumption}, did she not bring in the administrative situation that I could have been a party in some way to?.
That one goes right over my head, I do not see a connection to you in what Tamara said.
> Could you rule out that the poster's leaving does not have anything at all to do with me?
Maybe I dont know enough of the above threads to answer this accurately BUT I had no idea you were involved when I read minnies goodbye, or Tamaras post or Dinah's
> If there are going to assumptions made, could we not explore what is precipitating these assumptions?
Yes, absolutely but I guess I read it as more of a word composing sentance as opposed to anything offensive so i was wondering where you were going with it, Since I never saw the connection and still dont, with Tamara ever implying your involvement.
rain
Posted by rainbowbrite on June 16, 2005, at 16:43:24
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to rainbowbright-precipasum » Lou Pilder, posted by rainbowbrite on June 16, 2005, at 16:34:47
I was not trying to be difficult in case that is how it came accross. I really didnt understand why
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 16:43:25
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to rainbowbright-precipasum » Lou Pilder, posted by rainbowbrite on June 16, 2005, at 16:34:47
rainbowbright,
Could this clarify some things concerning this for you?
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050614/msgs/513687.html
Posted by rainbowbrite on June 16, 2005, at 16:45:14
In reply to Lou's reply to rainbowbright- » rainbowbrite, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 16:43:25
it clarifies things, I shouldnt have barged in. sorry
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 21:20:54
In reply to Re: Happy trails to you » Minnie-Haha, posted by Maximus on June 16, 2005, at 20:44:25
Friends,
It is written here that [...{we} will finish what you (Minnie) have begun...].
I am requesting that those that are going to post to this thread that they consider the following:
A. Who are those that make up the {we}?
B. What is it that the {we} will finish?
C. Is what is to be finished a way to still my voice and some other's voice by getting Dr. Hsiung to make some type of policy that could have that effect?
D. If so, do you consider it a sound mental-health practice to try to get Dr. Hsiung to make some policy that could still my voice or anyone else's voice?
E. Are there any countries where the people there are wanting to leave because that country allows their citizens to request from their government redresss of grievences and to request that they make determinations as to if something is acceptable or not in relation to the guidlines of their constitution? If so, could they that want to leave not be trying to go back to what was what the people of the U.S., Great Britian, France, Canada and other countries established in their constitutions to prevent?
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on June 16, 2005, at 21:37:22
In reply to Lou's response to an aspect of this thread-devo, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 21:20:54
Minnie, Good luck. Hope you got my Babblemail! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 21:43:38
In reply to Lou's response to an aspect of this thread-devo, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 21:20:54
Friends,
I am requesting to those that are considering contributing to this thread to read what is in the following link.
Lou
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Freedom-of-speech
Posted by Jakeman on June 16, 2005, at 22:13:41
In reply to Lou's response to an aspect of this thread-jefrsn, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 21:43:38
> Friends,
> I am requesting to those that are considering contributing to this thread to read what is in the following link.
> Lou
> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Freedom-of-speechI'm reminded of this quote, attributed to Buddha
,
You don't have to search for the truth, just let go of your opinions.
Posted by gardenergirl on June 16, 2005, at 23:21:25
In reply to Lou's reply to rainbowbright-precipasum » rainbowbrite, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 16:19:38
> Can you rule out, by what was posted before Dinah revealed that the "he" that she was referring to was Dr. Hsiung, that the "he" could have the potential for others to think that the "he" was me?
Lou, I've said this before. There is the *potential* for an infinite number of interpretations of who the "he" represents. I would rather ask "What is the likelihood of the use of "he" to refer to you?" Although I believe the likelihood is slim given Dinah's clarification. I think if anyone assumes anything different from Dinah's clarification, that comes from within their own self and not from Dinah's words.
> Could you rule out that the poster's leaving does not have anything at all to do with me?
I'm quite certain that only Minnie can rule that in or out. I respect that her reasons are her own. Even if her reasons for leaving do have something to do with your participation on this board, that would be her own decision and her own truth.
But hypothetically, how would you feel if you were to hear from Minnie that she was leaving, at least in part, because of your participation on this site?
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on June 16, 2005, at 23:26:23
In reply to Lou's response to an aspect of this thread-jefrsn, posted by Lou Pilder on June 16, 2005, at 21:43:38
Hi Lou,
As has been stated before and as is written in the information about posting on this site, we do not have absolute freedom of speech here. This is not a nation. This is Dr. Bob's site.His house, his rules.
gg
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2005, at 6:51:21
In reply to Re: Lou's response to an aspect of this thread-jefrsn » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on June 16, 2005, at 23:26:23
> Hi Lou,
> As has been stated before and as is written in the information about posting on this site, we do not have absolute freedom of speech here. This is not a nation. This is Dr. Bob's site.
>
> His house, his rules.
>
> gg
Gardenergirl,
You wrote,[..his (Dr. Hsiung) house, his rules...]Are you saying in what you wrote above that Dr. Hsiung can make any rule that he wants to?
Can he make a rule that has the potential to arrouse ill-will toward me or another? Can he make a rule that could have the potential to defame me or another here? Can he write things here that have the potential to defame me or another here? Can he write that the foundation of my faith, which is the same foundation of jewdaism and some other faiths, puts down those of other faiths and allow the foundation of christiandom to be posted without him writing that the foundation of christiandom puts down those of other faiths? Can he allow others to defame me here and have the potential of creating a hostile environment to me here? Can he allow posters to post their church's doctrines that defame jews and write that he is changing his own rule to allow that here by saying that those defamation writings about jews can be posted because they are being quoted of that poster's church doctrins and even though he writes that quoting does not allow what is defaming, he will allow the church quotes about jews anyway because the poster posted those defaming statements in a link to that churches doctrines? Can he allow a poster to over and over ridicule and insult me and defame me and bring up the horrors of nazism to me on this board without applying the sanction that he applies to me? Can he have two standards here? Can he make a rule that will restrict the liberty to address the administration as to if something written here is acceptable or not in relation to the guidlines of the forum? Do you want a rule here that could have the potential to still my voice or any one elses here?
Lou
Posted by gardenergirl on June 17, 2005, at 11:16:27
In reply to Lou's reply to gardenergirl- » gardenergirl, posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2005, at 6:51:21
Yep, he certainly can. And I'm glad he does not.
gg
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2005, at 15:33:47
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to gardenergirl- » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on June 17, 2005, at 11:16:27
gg,
You wrote,[...I'm glad he does not...].
Could you identify what is included in what you are glad that he does not do?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2005, at 17:44:50
In reply to what's going on around here? Do I smell bad? lol (nm), posted by Spriggy on June 17, 2005, at 17:28:53
Friends,
An aspect of this thread is that it is posted here about someone asking if they smell bad.
I am requesting that posters other than the poster of the post that writes that, write what they think that could mean {to them} when they read what the poster wrote. I am not requesting from the poster to do so, because I am interested in how others could percieve it and how it relates to them in this thread, in particular, but not limited to if the post is appropriate here.
Lou
Posted by TamaraJ on June 17, 2005, at 17:53:10
In reply to Lou's response to aspects of this thread-smlbd, posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2005, at 17:44:50
concerned. What I find offensive and inappropriate is Minnie's thread being highjacked with completely unrelated posts.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 17, 2005, at 17:56:17
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to gardenergirl- » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on June 17, 2005, at 11:16:27
gg,
If you reply to my request, could you consider what is in the following links and the posts that are in the thread and Dr. Hsiung's reply, if there is one? It is my understanding that when an administrator does not reply, that that has the potential to mean a reply.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428162.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428199.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428605.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/429941.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041218/msgs/431168.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041218/msgs/432113.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041218/msgs/437401.html
Go forward in thread:
Psycho-Babble Administration | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.