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Posted by Lamdage22 on April 9, 2016, at 4:22:44
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Zyprexa on April 8, 2016, at 22:26:32
> How is the trial going?
Going ok. Not feeling much of anything
Did you reduce any meds yet.
No.
And what dose of cbd are you at? Any effects yet?
300mg without effects so far.
> How do you take the cbd? Eat, inject.
Swallow it.
How do you measure it?
In a 10ml syringe. (Its a 5% cbd liquid). 50mg/ml.
How much did it cost?
Its expensive. My father pays it right now. It will be cheaper (½) in the near future and beginning in June 2016, there is a chance that insurance will cover it. Legislation in Germany has a law underway.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 10, 2016, at 5:31:11
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 9, 2016, at 4:22:44
there may be a problem, because Cannabidiol doesnt help sleep as much as Seroquel or Zyprexa.
Posted by J Kelly on April 10, 2016, at 8:07:46
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 10, 2016, at 5:31:11
> there may be a problem, because Cannabidiol doesnt help sleep as much as Seroquel or Zyprexa.
Would it be worth adding something for sleep to be able to reduce an AP? Tough choices I know.
Jade
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 10, 2016, at 8:14:44
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol » Lamdage22, posted by J Kelly on April 10, 2016, at 8:07:46
i guess it would be depending on what it is. but what?
Trazodone doesnt work.
Remeron makes me worse.hmm
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 10, 2016, at 8:47:39
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 10, 2016, at 8:14:44
i would like to try some low THC Cannabis actually.
Cannabinol for example would be something that makes you sleepy.
Today, i am on 400mg of CBD. Tomorrow 600, then the day after tomorrow 800!
The only thing i feel is the Cyp3a4 inhibition. The 500mg Seroquel i take at night kicks in much more than i am used to. At least now i know i got the real deal.
Posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 5:32:23
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 10, 2016, at 8:47:39
> i would like to try some low THC Cannabis actually.
>
> Cannabinol for example would be something that makes you sleepy.
>
> Today, i am on 400mg of CBD. Tomorrow 600, then the day after tomorrow 800!
>
> The only thing i feel is the Cyp3a4 inhibition. The 500mg Seroquel i take at night kicks in much more than i am used to. At least now i know i got the real deal.So it IS working.
If you are noticing that now, you may want to stay at that dose of cbd, for a while. Then decrease some seroquel and or zyprexa.
It took me a couple weeks to a month if I remember correctly, before I reduced zyprexa. I did start out pretty low on the cbd.
BTW I'm currently taking 2/3 of a 20mg zyprexa now. I started a new sealed bottle. And yes its more potent than the old bottle was at the end. The 2 bottles are made at the same time just opened 2 months apart.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 5:35:37
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 5:32:23
well the cyp3a4 inhibition is working...
I lowered the Seroquel from 600 to 400. today i take 600mg CBD, tomorrow 800. Today and tomorrow i will take 300 mg Seroquel.
Posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 5:41:18
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 5:35:37
I don't think I would go lower on the seroquel for atleast a few days. See how it goes.
Did you reduce zyprexa?
Posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 5:44:02
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 5:41:18
When do you take the cbd?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 6:05:01
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 5:41:18
> I don't think I would go lower on the seroquel for atleast a few days. See how it goes.
>
> Did you reduce zyprexa?Seroquel knocked me the f*ck out at 400mg Seroquel and 400mg Cannabidiol Yesterday!
Today i take 600mg Cannabidiol so yes i am going to reduce Seroquel.
Didnt reduce Zyprexa.
I take half in the morning half at night. Today 600 CBD tomorrow 800.
Posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 6:28:53
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 6:05:01
Ok, just want to make sure nothing bad happens. If your ok with it .. I tried to quit all meds in one day and tons of cbd. But that only lasted a day. Didn't work.
Is it just CBD in the stuff you take or is it a total plant complex like I take of hemp. I think it has some other things in it, can't remember what but something like cbc or what ever.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 9:18:21
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 6:28:53
> Ok, just want to make sure nothing bad happens. If your ok with it .. I tried to quit all meds in one day and tons of cbd. But that only lasted a day. Didn't work.
>
> Is it just CBD in the stuff you take or is it a total plant complex like I take of hemp. I think it has some other things in it, can't remember what but something like cbc or what ever.Its okay, dont worry. Its synthetically produced Cannabidiol in a 5% oral solution.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 9:36:19
In reply to Re: Took my first 50mg Cannabidiol, posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 9:18:21
Posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 22:33:39
In reply to 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works (nm), posted by Lamdage22 on April 11, 2016, at 9:36:19
I would just cross taper at your discression.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 4:23:15
In reply to Re: 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works, posted by Zyprexa on April 11, 2016, at 22:33:39
i developed severe anxiety
Posted by Jeroen on April 12, 2016, at 4:30:57
In reply to Re: 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 4:23:15
Lamdage22 severe anxiety not good friend
cut back down your dose
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 4:35:14
In reply to Lamdage22 severe anxiety not good friend, posted by Jeroen on April 12, 2016, at 4:30:57
i have quit altogether!
i knew this could happen, i just thought i could be lucky.
Posted by Jeroen on April 12, 2016, at 4:41:31
In reply to Re: Lamdage22 severe anxiety not good friend, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 4:35:14
had same thing with minocycline
my pdoc wants me to try doxycycline what do you think?
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 5:15:24
In reply to had same thing with minocycline, posted by Jeroen on April 12, 2016, at 4:41:31
your doc is very liberal. Mine wouldnt let me try this stuff. Plus you may create antibiotic resistant infection.
Posted by J Kelly on April 12, 2016, at 5:39:02
In reply to Re: Lamdage22 severe anxiety not good friend, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 4:35:14
> i have quit altogether!
>
> i knew this could happen, i just thought i could be lucky.Sorrry to hear that Lamdage :(
You'll be lucky with something else.
Jade
Posted by SLS on April 12, 2016, at 6:42:45
In reply to Re: 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 4:23:15
> i developed severe anxiety
I don't know the therapeutic dosage range for CBD. Is it possible that you increased the dosage too quickly? It might be like someone jumping up to 60 mg of Prozac on the second day of treatment.
If you do discontinue the CBD, what is your next move? I can't help but to want to see you work towards 300 mg/day of Effexor, even if you move up by only 25 mg every week. Be sure to split your doses. I would use twice a day as a minimum. Maybe your first two increases could be by 12.5 mg. When you get to 100 mg/day, you could then increase by 25 mg. You would be using the IR tablets, of course. I do remember your saying at one time that you couldn't go higher than 37.5 mg/day. You seem to be tolerating 75 mg/day. Maybe you can go up higher still. Unless Effexor triggers some sort of manic or psychotic reaction, I would be aggressive with it. Effexor is, of course, an antidepressant. But it is also quite effective for anxiety disorders.
You have a bunch of people who care enough about you to want to help. Someone is bound to come up with an idea that works, even if it is your own.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 6:52:17
In reply to Re: 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on April 12, 2016, at 6:42:45
higher Effexor makes me psychotic.
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 7:07:23
In reply to Re: 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on April 12, 2016, at 6:42:45
right now my biggest concern is cholesterol and triglycerides.
Maybe give Rexulti a shot?
Idk what my next move is, Scott!
Posted by SLS on April 12, 2016, at 8:20:15
In reply to Re: 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works, posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 6:52:17
> higher Effexor makes me psychotic.
That sucks.
Rexulti (brexpiprazole) is a sister drug to Abilify (aripiprazole). It is supposed to be smoother than Abilify, and has a reduced risk of akathisia.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on April 12, 2016, at 12:15:21
In reply to Re: 600mg today. Does anyone know how quickly it works » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on April 12, 2016, at 8:20:15
> > higher Effexor makes me psychotic.
>
> That sucks.
>
> Rexulti (brexpiprazole) is a sister drug to Abilify (aripiprazole). It is supposed to be smoother than Abilify, and has a reduced risk of akathisia.
>
>
> - Scotti could try Rexulti, i could try Viibryd. But: I have been offered a driving job. A new medication may mean i cant drive!
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