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Posted by rculater on November 6, 2010, at 5:31:43
Just wanted to say thanks for the info from the regular posters on here.
Ive had enough of meds now. Been through the whole lot, some twice (apart from parnate/nardil) in a 20 year merry go round. on and off on and off. Some worked for a while, some sucked, others worked differently on the second try. Latest was lexapro which spoilt my fall as i felt i wasnt part of the beutifull season, just aware of it. Zombie.
I think atypical/dysthemia is so difficult to treat as its mild but always constant. The S/Es of most meds don't outway the benefits.
Sorry this is so negative - meds work for lots so dont give up - but im off to alternative meds.
r cu later.
Posted by SLS on November 6, 2010, at 6:47:58
In reply to Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by rculater on November 6, 2010, at 5:31:43
Hi.
> Just wanted to say thanks for the info from the regular posters on here.
>
> Ive had enough of meds now. Been through the whole lot, some twice (apart from parnate/nardil) in a 20 year merry go round. on and off on and off. Some worked for a while, some sucked, others worked differently on the second try. Latest was lexapro which spoilt my fall as i felt i wasnt part of the beutifull season, just aware of it. Zombie.
>
> I think atypical/dysthemia is so difficult to treat as its mild but always constant. The S/Es of most meds don't outway the benefits.
>
> Sorry this is so negative - meds work for lots so dont give up - but im off to alternative meds.
>
> r cu later.You are not at all negative. I appreciate your objective reporting and the conveyance of the facts surrounding your frustrating experiences with the drugs that are currently available.
I wish you luck in your quest for an alternate treatment. I am thinking of trying rTMS. Although the results of this procedure were disappointing when it was first investigated, more recent literature reports that refinements in its application demonstrate efficacy in the treatment of otherwise treatment-resistant depression (TRD).
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on November 6, 2010, at 7:10:06
In reply to Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by rculater on November 6, 2010, at 5:31:43
I have the same problem.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on November 6, 2010, at 11:30:18
In reply to Re: Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by linkadge on November 6, 2010, at 7:10:06
Link I thought you were doing well on effexor? Or did I misread. As for the thread I understand your frustration. Best of luck to you. Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on November 6, 2010, at 15:11:07
In reply to Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by rculater on November 6, 2010, at 5:31:43
Beat of luck to you. Are you looking into options like TMS?
Posted by floatingbridge on November 6, 2010, at 15:56:32
In reply to Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by rculater on November 6, 2010, at 5:31:43
The very best to you!
Would you consider reporting about your progress from time to time? I understand moving on, and bless you--you have my support, it's that I'm very interested in your successes.
Posted by floatingbridge on November 6, 2010, at 15:59:31
In reply to Re: Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds » rculater, posted by SLS on November 6, 2010, at 6:47:58
Go Scott!
It does sound more promising, doesn't it?
Posted by rculater on November 7, 2010, at 6:52:37
In reply to Re: Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds » SLS, posted by floatingbridge on November 6, 2010, at 15:59:31
I will keep you updated however yesterday a spanner was thrown into the works. My friend was prescribed Zyban (bupronian) last week as a smoking cessation - (You cannot get prescribed Bupronian in the UK to treat depression) He tried for a day and give up giving up so, I asked if i could have the meds - as a last chance I was going to augument my Escitalopram with the Bupronian. If I respond either buy on line or persuade doctor to prescribe.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 7, 2010, at 9:27:19
In reply to Re: Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by rculater on November 7, 2010, at 6:52:37
>You cannot get prescribed bupropion in the UK to treat depression...
Well you can, but it's not approved as an antidepressant here and doctors may not be familiar with this use. Still, a psychiatrist with expertise in the treatment of depression might use it. It is quite possible for doctors to prescribe drugs for unapproved uses if they feel that it is appropriate.
Posted by bleauberry on November 7, 2010, at 10:21:35
In reply to Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by rculater on November 6, 2010, at 5:31:43
> Just wanted to say thanks for the info from the regular posters on here.
>
> Ive had enough of meds now. Been through the whole lot, some twice (apart from parnate/nardil) in a 20 year merry go round. on and off on and off. Some worked for a while, some sucked, others worked differently on the second try. Latest was lexapro which spoilt my fall as i felt i wasnt part of the beutifull season, just aware of it. Zombie.
>
> I think atypical/dysthemia is so difficult to treat as its mild but always constant. The S/Es of most meds don't outway the benefits.
>
> Sorry this is so negative - meds work for lots so dont give up - but im off to alternative meds.
>
> r cu later.
>
>So, you are off to alternative meds? That's cool. I know a lot about that.
It is not any easier than meds however, because the choices are staggering and it is still trial and error.
Furthermore herbs, plants, or supplements that help the symptom might not be commonly used for that symptom. In my case, who would have ever guessed a weed called Japanese Knotweed and a handful of specialty supplements would take me closer to remission than 15 years of meds?
I wish you all the best. I think that when someone has been on a psychiatric prescription journey for 10 to 20 years and not making progress, that is strong enough indication to change course....it's something else that those meds aren't touching.
Posted by ggggg123 on November 7, 2010, at 17:10:24
In reply to Im giving up this 20 year relationship with meds, posted by rculater on November 6, 2010, at 5:31:43
I think what you say is very true, the bit about lexapro is too true.
Meds are s***, psychopharmacology isn't anywhere near as good as they think it is.
I have only, I repeat only had success with bupropion!!!! NDRI is what some people need.other options are:
Very High dose Venlafaxine or
Reboxetine is an NRI available here in the uk so it might be similar to bupropion, I'm gonna give it a go hopefully.Also some of the tca's are very noradrenergic
Have you tried alot of the tca's?
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