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Posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
So I paged him and he called me back and said he could not: refill my xanax, up my dose of buspirone, or start me on klonopin and that I have to go to the ER. He said he could do nothing. wtf?
I had been prescribed .25 xanax for 30 days; script due to be refilled on June 3rd. So he asked me when I got the script and I was honest w/him and told him May 3rd and told him I had to take extra xanax this week (when I get panic attacks-I had to take 4 of the .25 each time) since I started up back at grad school again....Last I was there in the bldg., I almost had a nervous breakdown/severe anxiety, so the memory brought back panic attacks...
He said this after I mentioned to him that last we spoke, he referred me to a psycopharmacologist. I shouldn't have even mentioned that, but was trying to tell him I'd be out of scripts.. He said "you'll have to call him"; I said I haven't even seen him yet. Okay, I could not get an appt. w/this new doc for close to 2 months; yet was given 30 days worth of scripts. I told him this. I realize he didn't have my file in front of him, but all my scripts expire June 3rd, yet I don't have an appt. w/new PDoc until June 15th. Am I supposed to just quit all my meds cold turkey from June 3rd to June 15th? I don't get it.
What should I do? I am not going to the f*ck*ng ER, because 1) I have no health ins.; 2) i will just be acccused of being a drug seeker. This has happend before, and it was a traumatic experience.
Maybe I should go out and get Kava or passionflower, or alchohol. I can't call a primary care physician; I haven't been there in a year or 2, except a new one, though from the same practice who recently prscribed me 20 pills of Xanax when I was having bronchial spasms from adderall, knowing the .25 from PDoc was insufficient at the time, but they wouldn't know me well enough to add more.
I am calling him back Tuesday. In fact, I think I'm going to write a letter and fax it to the office. If he leaves me w/o meds, and I have a nervous breakdown, I am not putting up with this.
Posted by Zana on May 24, 2009, at 12:31:09
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
I think you are absolutely right not to put up with this. It is horrible medical care. I agree with you. What does he think you are supposed to do. Ethically he can not just abandon you. He is responsible for you until he has helped you transition your care. It's actually called "patient abandonment." I think you need to make it clear to him that you are still his patient whether he likes it or not until you can get hooked up with another doc.
What a sh*tty spot to be stuck in!Zana
Posted by Jeroen on May 24, 2009, at 12:43:59
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
that's terrible
Posted by Phillipa on May 24, 2009, at 13:02:42
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by Jeroen on May 24, 2009, at 12:43:59
Garnet let the doc call the psychopharmacoligist and verify for himself that you can't and don't have an appointment til then. No you can't quite cold turkey. His secretary could also verify with other secretary also. Why the sudden panic at school Maybe not ready yeat to resume. Love Phillipa
Posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 13:34:51
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
Thanks, everyone, for writing with advice-I sure need it!!
It's not just that the script runs out before new PDoc appt, though that is an issue too, but that I took more xanax than prescribed. But my situation changed and I was honest about it. I mean I could have told him my script just ran out today or something-he'd have no way of knowing until he got back in the office...
I think if I write a letter he would have to give me a script bet. his last appt. and my next appt..from june 3rd to the 15th, but not have to add for the extra xanax i took...and he could wait until the 3rd to let me have the script...but really, what's the big deal if I need a few extra till I get w/new pdoc for new treatment? I have such an issue with this--it is ridiculous. What is the harm w/a few extra till new appt? People have fluctuations with anxiety, and why should you be forced to go to an ER when it happens because you can't get a PDoc appt??
It sounded like pdoc was at a picnic or something-couldn't hear very well. I felt bad for paging him...but started panicking. But Zana, didn't think about it that way--patient abandonment; I will mention that. He only uses traditional meds, mainly xxRIs, which haven't work for me despite he has been prescrbing them to me off/on over 3 years which led to real bad effects, which is one reason why he referred me on (and said his malpractice insurance doesn't cover the treatment I need). W/o having my file, he didn't know the whole situation, and probably just figured I was abusing the xanax. I mean, I know when I need to get off a benzo and go to a preventative/long-term med, but it was too late when I took action. I coudl see where he can't start my on Klonopin over the phone, but still, why couldn't he increase buspirone or just give me a few xanax to get by? I mean what is the harm of giving a person a few days of a benzo, esp. I don't have a history of using benzos very often, for long time periods.
Phillipa, the memory of nearly losing my mind last time I was at that school is causing panic; it's the fear of having the anxiety that is causing the panic; which seems more related to panic disorder than GAD. Just like driving in my car-I have memories of driving to the ER feeling like I was going to pass out, so I get panic in my car more than anywhere else.
I was thinking of getting benadryl, but when I took allergy medicines in the past, they gave me heart palpatations, like dizziness in my chest or something. Anyone know what I should take to get thru this? I am dreading thinking I'd have to use alcohol for the next 2 weeks!!! Hopefully faxing a letter will solve the problem...but that's not until Tues.
Posted by chumbawumba on May 24, 2009, at 14:12:40
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
Well there is always the internet. Many shady internet pharmacies sell Valium and Xanax without a scrip. Unfortunately the one's I know of are overseas so delivery takes a while.
It seems like many docs are afraid of benzo's these day. I had a friend who was in your position and was given the exact same advice: go to the ER or an addiction treatment facility.
It makes me wonder if they are under some sort of pressure from their malpractice insurance underwriters or from fear of lawsuits to stop prescribing these meds.
Posted by ricker on May 24, 2009, at 14:33:49
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 13:34:51
Garnet, benzo's and such will help with your anxiety to a degree. When you see the p/doc, your goal should be finding a med that will help get you anchored in the "present".
Most underlying issues are a result of ruminations (worrying of what the future will bring) or, dwelling in the past (guilt). Kinda like a cow shewing it"t cud, so to speak!
I don't think benzo's will bring long-term relief on their own, they will help if coupled with a med that's going to attack the main problem.... mind racing. Just thought I'd offer some advise so you can make the most of your next appointment.
Take care, Rick
Posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 15:09:32
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
Yeah, I know it's not a long term solution; I always know when I need to go off a benzo. It's just I waited too long. I mean, my life is still hanging by a thread,I cannot adddress all my responsibilities, doing as much as i can. I just graduated this week from UG school, but had overlapping classes starting grad school the same week. Didn't have $ to park, cant get myself to do a 4 hr public transp. daily commute again, and still don't have all the $ to buy all my books. And my car needs $2000 in repairs, leaking oil, the inspection expired.
Life hanging by a thread- I was getting by ok, working, going to school...I was med free for several months....Then things fell apart when I started getting anxiety attacks last Aug., Sept and taking SSRIs again. They made me so depressed and tired. Worse, after taking them for those months, my motivation was totally erased by the time classes ended in December, started missing lots of classes...then when the semester ended and still on the SSRIs, I was doing nothing but playing solitare on the computer and using the internet; stayed in bed all day and night. I didn't even put up christmas decorations or a tree, did nothing for the holiday...So I found this forum just then and I finally knew why! So I quit the SSRIs and got a little better, but my motivation never came back to par, but mood was so much better w/o meds. So I was off all meds for a couple weeks?, started back up at school, got anxiety so severe that I almost had a nervous breakdown. Had to quit my job but stayed in school, that's when I went to PDoc again to get meds..Went back to this PDoc.....I didn't ask for benzos-he offered them; I asked for the buspirone. And I got the ADD dx, which made sense because my coursework had totally changed to new types of stuff, which explained alot. Though the first 2 stimulants didn't work out, I got through the spring semester by not taking SSRIs....but came really close to failing my thesis because of all the med trials and the SSRIS from last year.
Anyway, the loss of income has totally piled up and things are falling apart, but I'm scared to go back to work just yet. And I lost my health insurance in December and almost lost my house to foreclosure during this time. Anyway, I'm just ranting because I need someone to talk to :( One of you must be playing a violin for me in the background..lol
I thought PDOc trusted me since in my med history, I had asked to be taken off benzos from time to time. Usually just using them in between being med free then getting anxiety agian, and small doses. I don't think he even knew who he was talking to on the phone though. He didn't seem to even recognize me. This is my fault for not taking care of this earlier in the week. Partly due to motivational issues, feeling frozen, but partly due to optimism that I would figure something out on my own..
I am doing some of my homework today, and am making some progress now that I took a stimulant. So I guess I am semi-functional at this point. Thanks, I feel a little bit better after talking to you all :-)
Posted by Maxime on May 24, 2009, at 16:32:57
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 15:09:32
I would probably show up at his office and try to see him immediately. But that's just me. He may refuse to see you that way. But I think that what he is doing is unethical.
Posted by bleauberry on May 24, 2009, at 17:40:39
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
Personally, I would immediately ditch this doctor.
Second, I would stay far away from anyone that he refers. Such as that psychopharmacologist. Besides, who wants a doctor that is hard to see? I want one that has more time for me. No one can possibly give you the care you need, or get to know your case real well, when they are too busy.
The ex-GP is a good start. If nothing else, just as a stepping stone while buying some time to do a better hunt. And don't waste the time, hesitate, procrastinate, or be lazy, do a good thorough exhaustive hunt for the right person. Experts with unusually high gifts come under all labels, including Nurse Practioners, Integrative Medical Doctors, GP Medical Doctors, and Psychiatrist. I frown on psychiatrists primarily because they have so little care or clue about the rest of your body or where your symptoms are coming from. They just shoot the dice in trying to choose among limited meds that might help ease those symptoms. And get paid ridiculous amounts of money for guesses.
I know you don't like the option, but the emergency room is one. Maybe a different hospital? Just be honest, let them know your doctor got you on a med, then abandoned you, and you just need a small amount to bridge the gap while finding a new doctor. Again, be honest. Let them know you feel it is very uncool, cruel, and irresponsible for a doctor to get a patient hooked on a benzo and then just abandon them. It's also very unsafe.
I would write a letter to the doctor saying how disappointed you are in him. How you thought he had more talent. How you will seek out the online rating sites to score a bad rating under his name. How you will write a press release for the local newspaper to print on how he handled your case (not that they will print it, but it kind of reminds him to not be so arrogant next time). And mention you will be talking to the State Medical Licensing Board and your attorney. At the end, demand your money back for poor service. While none of these things may actually come about and are probably a bluff, someone really needs to put some perspective on the "business" he runs. People like him should not feel like they have some free reign to do whatever they want, when nobody else does.
If he was truly a good doctor, he would have helped you across the bridge while searching for a new doctor, all the way up to that new doctor's appointment. To just abandon someone midstream is insane, more insane than anyone here. He should be fired.
You probably know the alternatives that can help.
Passionflower.
Lemon Balm.
Kava kava.
St Johns Wort (the cheap brands with low hyperforin)
GlycineAnd this one sounds weird, but seriously, Adrenal Cortex Extract. Most people don't know it, but I am a strong believer, that most anxiety/panic issues are within the adrenal circuits, related to burned out adrenal glands going haywire. Several friends have tried it, after failing Prozac, Lexapro, Cymbalta, Xanax, and Klonopin, and found significan relief, comfort and peace, within a week. In any stress situation, which expecially includes anxiety/panic to the max, the adrenals need a lot of help. Feed them and watch things calm down. I had the same reaction. When the adrenal feedback loops kick in from the boosted adrenal function, things settle down quite stunningly.
Posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 18:34:07
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by bleauberry on May 24, 2009, at 17:40:39
lol bleauberry lol No press releases; I am writing a letter and faxing it to his office - but it's much more effective to leave the emotional part and threats out. I will mention the ethics and safety part though; and if something happens down the road, well I'll have a fax confirmation sheet saved.....
Maybe this has something to do w/the med school here/where I live. The hosp. he is affilated w/is the same one I took my sister too when she had really bad mania and had to take her there 5 times before they would even prescribe her a drug to stablize her.
Or this has to standard protocol here; if it wasn't within medical protocol, they'd probably get sued, which would deter them from doing this. This happened to me several years ago, I was taking meds, prescribed xanax, anxiety/panic escalated - so I had to take more and called doctor who refused meds and told me I had to go to ER. But when I got to the ER, they wouldn't give me anything; after being in a 4-day panic attack, a GP finally gave me like 7 days worth till my next PDoc appt...This is after 1st GP refused before I went to ER, I just happened to get lucky when I called back and another realized how stupid it was to let me suffer rather than give me 7 days worth of a benzo. I later wrote a letter to the hospital and they dropped the bill, but said my "treatment was w/in standard guidelines" or something like that.
I don't understand what you're supposed to do when you're in between appts. and your anxiety escalates? I mean, when you are having a panic attack, going out of your mind, are you just not supposed to take more when the bottle is sitting right there? Who wouldn't do that? I don't get it. You call to get seen, they can't see you, you can't wait till next appt, and they tell you to go to ER. The .25 a day worked for a couple months, but I cant help it anxiety escalted in between appointments so that .25 is no longer effective.
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That's good you thought of his recommendation - he said he is a friend of his, so I thought that was a good thing. I'm having second thoughts now. And I am getting my ins. back thru school shortly-i just realized this - i have more choices now, i think... All this doctor could do was give me xxRIs, which made me worse, so it's not a loss. This has gone on for years, so I end up quitting meds, getting anxiety again and going back, but I didn't know all the other options unitl a few months ago. I just went by what the PDoc said...trusted his judgement..
I do have hypothyroid, but when I brought the results to them, results of all my tests, they didn't even look at them. They didn't even want the papers, but I told them to keep them in my file, so they just stuck them in there. Then I see here that others' PDocs prescribe cytomel and similar things-i wonder why he wouldn't even consider trying me on a dose of it or even talk about the thyroid issue? I told him I couldn't afford to get the additional tests or more treatment from an endocronologist.
grrr!!!!
Adrenal Cortex Extract - do you have to get this online or do they normally sell this at health stores?
What do the rest of you do when your anxiety goes out of control suddenly, and you don't have a PDoc appt. for weeks?
Posted by greywolf on May 24, 2009, at 19:11:59
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 18:34:07
Garnet:
I'd be real careful about what I put in writing, no matter how justified or mad you are. Having a letter in your permanent file where you are accusing your doctor of ethics and safety violations will accomplish little, but could hurt you down the road with doctors who are sensitive to possible attacks on their licenses or malpractice claims.
I agree that what happened here is ridiculous. Any chance you can get a quick appoinment with a therapist who might know a psydoc who can see you sooner?
Greywolf
Posted by Neal on May 24, 2009, at 19:50:46
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by greywolf on May 24, 2009, at 19:11:59
there are lawyers for that kind of Pdoc.
well the potentiate with booze might work for now. There are other pdocs in the phone book; of course, that solution assumes money in the pocket. And of course, we're into the holiday.
Do you have any friends taking similar meds? Friends of friends?
Posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 20:14:49
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by greywolf on May 24, 2009, at 19:11:59
Thanks for the tips, Neal :)
No insurance = no therapist.
Greywolf-lol I have pretty good judgment w/these sorts of things.
Re: safety - I was just going to write I don't feel comfortable self-medicating with Kava, etc. I wouldn't even mention the alcohol idea because then it would be in my file "alcohol abuse" lol; this is pathetic.
Re: ethics - I was going to mention something about not continuing my script until I am able to get a new appt. w/new PDoc appt., forcing me to suddenly stop meds...i understand about tactful writing and all...I'll be careful. yeah, about them knowing each other and all...they have a circle like all specialists (in my experience anyway); don't want to get a bad reputation..though they should be the ones concerned with their reputation.
When he told me about referring me to someone else, I told him I was concerned that he only gave me 30 days' scripts; I said what if I can't get an appt? He said just tell them you have to be seen w/in 30 days. So I call and couldn't be seen for 2 months, just as suspected; i told the office woman I had only 30 days' scripts; she said to call old PDoc and get more. At that same time, when I told PDoc I was concerned about cost, he said "he charges the same as me"; I call and this new doc charges $300 for initial visit-twice as much.
I'm not really angry anymore, just feel a little hurt actually, wondering why people have to go through this. I'm pretty sure a letter will resolve the whole thing actually. That's almost always worked in the past, to solve issues. I've always gotten along w/this doctor; we had a pretty good rapport, so this whole thing is very strange.
My worry is not liking this new PDoc, and wasting $300 for him to decide to put me on Lexapro or something, then having to wait 2 months to see another one, pay again, etc. But I think instead, I'm going to go to the clinic at my uni--or at least call them on Tues--and see if I can be seen by someone. Then maybe I can cxl that appt on the 15th. Except they won't have any of my past medical records, will probably be suspicous about the xanax and all....Yeah, it's pathetic.
Maybe the whole thing is just a misunderstanding. I feel ok now. Just hoping I don't wake up w/another anxiety attack in the morning again. I'm lucky it went away, because sometimes when it gets real bad, it will last for days.
Posted by desolationrower on May 25, 2009, at 0:01:27
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 20:14:49
well i won't say much because then i'll probably start ranting but yeah crazy. especially 'oh just tell them you have to be seen w/in a month'.
anyway phenibut is the strongest otc anxiolytic. of course it has more tolerance/addiction problems than benzos.
going in for an appointment probably has a greater chance of working than a letter or something. but i've wated appointments just trying to cajole a pdoc to rx something too.
-d/r
Posted by garnet71 on May 25, 2009, at 1:25:23
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by desolationrower on May 25, 2009, at 0:01:27
I'm starting to see that whole place as a ghetto operation now. The PDoc is there once a week--and the RN treats everyone after the 1st or 2nd visit w/the PDoc. I saw the RN for more than a year at a time, even though it was against my insurance policy to go that long w/o a doctor's care. I liked her, though.
More than one doctor and two therapists had told me you have to jump thru hoops to get on the military's insurance for mental health, and that the insur. doesn't pay good, so there are only about 6 PDocs on the entire list of providers. So i didn't have much choice then when I had that insurance, but now hopefully can find a good doctor thru new ins. I tried 3 other PDoc's on the list, and they were much worse, can't believe there is worse....
They were always screwing up the billing too, it was time consuming to always straighten it all out. One time PDoc used wrong diagnosis code for sleep study ($2000)--he kept using insomnia instead of fatigue, and the insurance wouldn't pay it. This took 2 years. The insurance company did everything but call the guy and up say hey dude, are you sure you have the right diagnosis code here? The insurance co. said, just get them to call and give us the correct code over the phone, and we'll just pay it. The billing people just did not get this! Finally, i remembered I had his personal cell phone # and called him at home, and begged him to take care of it. It was paid that week.
yeah-I remember now-I have his personal phone number!! I should call him up right now and yell into the phone "Hey buddy-how does it feel to not be able to sleep!!!!" lol
I'm scared to try Phenibut because of the side effects I just read about on that other forum. But I might just have to try it anyway. But like Neil said, it's kind of silly to be thinking about Passionflower..lol. Don't know what I was thinking then!
I'm done venting. Have a great holiday everyone.
Posted by Elanor Roosevelt on May 25, 2009, at 20:13:56
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 25, 2009, at 1:25:23
your doctor is a jerk
low dose, you are talking about a low dose here
get some valerian root from the health food store
here is what i advise with xanax
if you are going in to a panic chew the xanax and then have water
the quicker you get it into your system the less you needpdocs and honesty?
i change that approach years ago and i am by nature an honest personalso, warm baths help
Posted by Neal on May 25, 2009, at 22:59:18
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
BTW, one of the first anxiolitics that ever worked for me was brewers yeast. I think it works for most people too. It's very mild, but I definitely noticed the difference. Powdered is the best. About 3 tablespoons with water, juice, milk.
Or B-complex is similar, but not quite as good.
Makes your pee nice and yellow . . .Calcium does a little something too, IMO.
Posted by garnet71 on May 27, 2009, at 23:46:33
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
I'm not sure what to do...I have about a week worth of meds left-buspirone; more than a week of d-amp, but out of Xanax. It was .25 as needed, but I got only 30 and had to recently take more than one per day. I am 2 weeks short on that. My new PDoc appt. is not for 17 days, so I'd be short 10 days of buspirone.
I got one of the office people to let me email the letter to her on tuesday afternoon, that I wrote to PDoc; for her to pass on to him, but I'm not sure she got it, but it should have been the correct email address. PDoc only is in the office on thursdays. I then left a message on the voice mail. Someone still should have called me back regardless of when he is in the office.
If I don't hear back from him tomorrow, I guess I should call the main hospital he is associated with to handle a complaint-or would that be a waste of time? I think they have patient advocacy people, or at least someone there who takes complaints.
PDoc is affiliated w/2 hospitals; the outpatient place I go to is somehow connected to a different hosp. than the one he works out of, and is associated with the monopoly medical system here, which is affiliated w/the medical school here. I don't know the organizational structure.
Or should I call a medical licensing board and skip that step?
In any case, it is unethical to leave someone without medications because the patient couldn't get an appointment with a new PDoc w/in 30 days after the doctor said his malpractice insurance doesn't work for the kind of treatment required; then to tell the patient to go to an ER to get the scripts filled, someone who doesn't have health insurance. An ER who will treat you like a drug seeker, and a big waste of health care resources.
I'm not sure I have the energy to do this. At least my panic attacks dissipated to mild anxiety today, but I'm exhausted.
I am in the process of getting health insurance thru my univ.-such a relief. I spent 2 hours looking through the list of PDocs today-there are over 300. No psychopharmacologists are indicated, but there are psychiatrists who are also neurologists; it appears common, though I never knew this. I'm torn between choosing the psychiatrist father of my former military doctor-the most compassionate human being I've ever known in my life--who happens to be on the list (and ironically wouldn't accept the military's insurance cause he went and asked his Dad if he'd see me a year ago)--or choosing among several who were educated at an ivy league medical school-there were a few. Trying to figure out if I should choose someone younger or older. That's a tough decision. I don't have much else to go by. I'm going to start calling them, but there are so many. I don't know how to do this. I think not having a good doctor has had severe effects upon my life in ways I would have never imagined years ago. If only I had known better then.
I've had the absolute worst medical care under psychiatrists over these past 8 years or so--all because there are few who would go through all the red tape to be on the military's insurance, though I've had insurance here and there in between, but didn't switch doctors. That was stupid. I had never known anyone else who saw a psychiatrist regularly who knew the difference, or at least anyone I talked about it with. They obviously are only the doctors who are desperate for patients. I found news articles today about that too.
I've gotten angry about this again. I just can't imagine why a doctor wouldn't cover you with meds until your next appt. I've already been taking 2 of them for months, what diff. does 10 days make to him? It certainly makes a lot of difference for me, my life.
Posted by garnet71 on May 28, 2009, at 18:14:50
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 27, 2009, at 23:46:33
Well they didn't get the letter unitl today-I had to resend the email because it was sent w/o the attachment-well, I tried to attach it w/the word file still open, always have like 10 windows open at all times..lol. and didn't realize..
So he called me and said he would call in extra for me in case my appt. got delayed, 30 days worth of the xanax and buspirone, but cant' call in d-amp because it's schedule II. He sounded genuinely sad about the whole thing, actually a little nervous too, said he didn't have my file in front of him when I called....I'm thinking probably the thing that stuck in his mind when I first called is that I was one of "those" patients he passes along to his highly-insured buddy..lol. Maybe he was recently sued for prescribing so-called addictive medications, for all I know. I actually feel kind of bad for him, not sure why. I did always think he was a reasonable doctor and a good-hearted person.
I'll never recoup that weekend, this whole situation made me really behind at the start of the semester, adding more stress, but I forgive him. I'm relieved I won't have to be jolted by extreme anxiety at any given time for a while.
Posted by desolationrower on May 28, 2009, at 23:41:32
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 28, 2009, at 18:14:50
hifive!
-d/r
Posted by dcruik518 on May 30, 2009, at 19:49:02
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do? » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on May 24, 2009, at 13:02:42
This happened to me before with clonazepam. I ran out early and went in to get my refill and the pharmacist called my doctor to tell him he was "concerned." So my P-doc wouldn't refill the prescription right away. However, he did call in and refill it once I'd reached the date that I was supposed to have it refilled in the first place. I suspect your doctor will do the same. You'll have to wait until June 3. If he doesn't refill it then, and you have severe panic attacks he could be legally responsible. However, I think you'll be fine on such a low dose and I do think he or she will refill on June 3rd, unless he or she is a complete idiot. In the meantime, got the health food store and get a couple of bottles of Kava Kava. Take about 3 times the recommended dose three times a day. That should take care of your anxiety. You might also want to get some Passionflower. I'd avoid alcohol.
Posted by dcruik518 on May 30, 2009, at 19:51:14
In reply to PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 24, 2009, at 11:49:48
This happened to me before with clonazepam. I ran out early and went in to get my refill and the pharmacist called my doctor to tell him he was "concerned." So my P-doc wouldn't refill the prescription right away. However, he did call in and refill it once I'd reached the date that I was supposed to have it refilled in the first place. I suspect your doctor will do the same. You'll have to wait until June 3. If he doesn't refill it then, and you have severe panic attacks he could be legally responsible. However, I think you'll be fine on such a low dose and I do think he or she will refill on June 3rd, unless he or she is a complete idiot. In the meantime, got the health food store and get a couple of bottles of Kava Kava. Take about 3 times the recommended dose three times a day. That should take care of your anxiety. You might also want to get some Passionflower. I'd avoid alcohol.
Posted by garnet71 on May 31, 2009, at 0:33:01
In reply to Garnet!, posted by dcruik518 on May 30, 2009, at 19:51:14
Yeah it's pretty scary when that happens, huh?
My PDoc did call in the scripts and some extra, realized he made a mistake after looking at my records. Unfortunatley, it was a bit too late. The meds are still sitting at the pharmacy, since Thurs. I haven't needed them and just haven't taken the time to pick them up.
Well take care
Posted by manic666 on May 31, 2009, at 11:22:52
In reply to Re: PDoc refused meds - what should I do?, posted by garnet71 on May 28, 2009, at 18:14:50
english docs , will only give benzo,s if you start a new a d. an then you have to be out your head with anxiety, they give them if someone has lost a wife or husband, thats big of them.my wife has had to run to a gp,s to get me a couple of ativan because i was out my head an paceing the room all day, an i had run out from my script, if the 2 had not worked , i didnt have a plan B
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