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Posted by manic666 on March 24, 2009, at 14:55:10
as you no im on 100mg zoloft an the 4 loz , when i went back to the hospital after the 8 week trial i was for giving in , but had a mini breakthrough 2 days before my appointment ,so i stuck with it . it does what it say,s brings down your anxierty an depression, but there is a down side , you feel totally wacked,you feel nothing you dont want to do nothing,its like your body is sleeping an wont wake,you can have sex ,but your not inyerested , in fact your not interested in anything,i just got a permit for this great fishing lake i was lucky to get it ,but you no what ,i carnt be *rs*d to go.i need a smack in the face or something , i need to get motivated but zoloft wont let me,i no its doing biz ,but hey zoloft give me back some life.my pups have gone ,well there is one still with me till friday as the owner moved from london an wants to get settled , but i couldent enjoy my pups like i always do,the 1 thats left is following me everywere an doing my head in, i want to keep her now she is getting under my skin,if i hadnt been unconcious with zoloft i wouldent have sold her , still i will let my bitch,s have more later , o no she is looking at me again .what have i done ?????????
Posted by Justherself54 on March 24, 2009, at 15:29:48
In reply to zoloft is a weird med, posted by manic666 on March 24, 2009, at 14:55:10
awwww..puppy eyes..hard to resist..I know what you are saying about Zoloft. I often feel that on the SSRI's. Sometimes adding Ritalin helps get some zip back..allows you to focus and keep on task..maybe you could mention that to your pdoc at your next appointment and see what they say.
Posted by bleauberry on March 24, 2009, at 16:19:59
In reply to zoloft is a weird med, posted by manic666 on March 24, 2009, at 14:55:10
The feeling you describe is actually rather common with serotonin based antidepressants such as Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, Prozac, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor, Cymbalta. It is not unique to Zoloft. It is commonly called SSRI induced apathy. No downs, but no ups either.
It is theorized to be a result of too much serotonin squashing out the action of norepinephrine and dopamine, which are the get-up-and-go motivational pleasure hormones. To keep the good effect of Zoloft, but add back some motivation and pleasure, meds commonly added to the SSRI for that include Ritalin, Provigil, Nortriptyline, Desipramine, and even...weird I know...an antipsychotic like Abilify or Zyprexa.
At sites where patients rate their experiences with meds, Provigil has the highest praise by a long shot for motivation, energy, pleasure, antidepression. Some doctors really like adding a TCA antidepressant like Nortrip or Desip. Some go for the stimulants like Ritalin. The whole idea is to boost the other neurotransmitters to balance out the boosted serotonin.
I sometimes think of SSRIs not as antidepressants, but as anti-emotions. Emotional anesthetizers. Good for someone in deep darkness. But once out of that darkness, it is not uncommon to have to add a different med to get a more rounded effect.
Posted by Phillipa on March 24, 2009, at 16:27:56
In reply to Re: zoloft is a weird med » manic666, posted by bleauberry on March 24, 2009, at 16:19:59
Manic keep the pup. I know someone from the board that is now hookded on providgil as can be addictive. At least for some it can. Love Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on March 24, 2009, at 17:48:57
In reply to Re: zoloft is a weird med, posted by Phillipa on March 24, 2009, at 16:27:56
> Manic keep the pup. I know someone from the board that is now hookded on providgil as can be addictive. At least for some it can. Love Phillipa
Yeah, and I noticed that at websites where patients rate their own meds, the antidepressant (and not even an antidepressant actually) that rates by far higher than any others is Tramadol (Ultram). People were initially prescribed it for post-operative pain or something, and discovered by accident that after years of trying lousy antidepressants they actually felt like their old selves again on Tramadol. Most antidepressants scored about a 3.2 on a 1-5 scale, with Tramadol at a 4.2. Huge difference.
Anyway, the point is this. Almost all of them agreed they were dependent on the drug. They felt the power of withdrawals when they missed a dose. They are addicted. But, and it is a huge but, they are living fullfilled lives with vibrant jobs, renewed careers, happy families, energy, creativity, hobbies, everything.
One has to kind of decide do they want to be addicted and productively healthy, or unaddicted and chronically ill.
The same issue applies to Provigil, which also by the way scored a 4.2, way above other antidepressants.
If I had to make the choice of being addicted on something and yet alive to enjoy the world, or to be a housebound ridden disaster, well, I'll take the addiction thank you.
Try stopping the Luvox. I think you'll find you are addicted to it. Not in the sense that you crave a dose, but in the sense your body cannot go without it. Provigil, Luvox, Effexor, Zyprexa...all of these drugs get people "hooked".
Posted by overtheedge on March 24, 2009, at 17:57:40
In reply to Re: zoloft is a weird med » Phillipa, posted by bleauberry on March 24, 2009, at 17:48:57
so glad i finally found someone that feels like i do, and i also take 20mgs of abilify, and still feel dead inside....there has to be something we can add to it and feel happy and human again
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