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Posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 7:32:44
Hi everyone, it's time for a new post...that's been a while since I don't post something new...even if I don't have anything new to say about myself...
My PDoc offer to me so try the new Pristiq the next month, it will be avaible in April in the Canada...he will have some sample box... BUT i'm really not sure about this one.
I read a lot of bad stuff about this med and it's also another kind of Celexa-Lexapro gimmick patented trick just to keep the price higher...remove the inactive isomater of the Effexor will change nothing i'm sure. I also read a lot of bad stories about the fact the Pristiq increase a lot the anxiety level, and I remember that when I try the Effexor-XR (march to june 2008), I had to go to a high dosage of more than 400mg/day because of my gastric by-pass and the fact that it was not all assimilate in my intestine...I was able to see some small balls on the water of the toilet...(sorry...lol)... and I had to increase A LOT my Xanax intake at the same time, it was not a coincidence, my brains was craving for benzos with the Effexor...I never felt this before... so much that I ended up at the hospital for high addiction of Xanax...more than 8-to 12mg /day of it. I was on the Effexor-XR for more than 3 months at 400mg-450mg/day.
So I fear the Pristiq for a lot of reasons. I'm confuse cause it's another extended release pill, but this time, it's seem to come into pills form, not capsule form with small rounds plastic balls. Someone can confirm this to me please? If it come into pills format, I will be able to crush the pill and take it in powder and see this time what a SRNI can do on me, the gastric by-pass will not interact this time??? I think???
Someone can confirm also if it will worse my benzos intake or not? If so, do you think the increase anxiety will return to it normal level after 6-8 weeks on the Pristiq? Do you think someone who was on a MAOI before will have any benefit to get on a SRNI, since all the SSRI's fails before and the TCA's seem to be just like the SSRI's with worse side-effects???
In the mean time, I ask my PDoc to have a small dose of Topamax as a weight loose med....because with the Lexapro and the Clomipramine experience from the fall and the winter , I gain a beautifull 55 pounds and my appetise is so big, I can eat all day long...so i'm on 50mg for now, and I don't see any difference, I just want to eat all day long...the more I eat and the more I want to eat and the more I feel guilty because I know I will get more fat...that's a never ending circle... I'm sure that when I will reach the 100mg in 2 weeks, things will change...for now nothing to say...just that I feel a decrease of my cognitives functions...but that's a normal side-effect on that med...with the benzos it's also a more pronounced effect...more sedation from my Valium pills also, so I sleep more at daytime and less at night time...
I also have a strange pain inside my head. The pain I often describe bnefore in others posts...but that's now a constant pain. Like someone play with my brain and push on it...sometimes it's on the left side, sometimes on the right side, sometimes on the front, sometimes on the neck...that's never at the same place.
My friend who is a nurse call it nevralgia pain and say that I can't do nothing about it, that's probably just anxiety... but I think it's more something like a new daily persistent headache or a tension-type headache. I always have a small headache everyday of my life since june 2006, related to stop drinking alcohol daily cold turkey...but since last tuesday night, I begin to have a more strong form of headache or pain inside my head that I cannot categorize...Sometimes I just think it's because I need more benzos and my brains crave for more...so I pop-up an extra Valium or two...but that's change nothing. I take some Motrins, Advils or Tylenols and they don't help either. The pain stay their all the times...all day long, even when I wake up in the morning and get more strong in the evening, especially when I have to do social exposure and get out of the house, that's also more painfull when I walk or do some physical exercises like walking... I was thinking it was the coffee so I stop drinking it completly....that change nothing, it was worse and I was sleeping more at daytime... Maybe I get some hypervygileance symptoms again and just get fixed around this strange headache???
Last time it was around my blood pressure and my heart, now it's about my head and the fact that I fear to have a seizure or something like this...anyway...that's strange...someone experience this strange headache, pain or migraine that comes everyday and never leave you alone ??? Do you think it will dissepear soon or that it's related to the anxiety or that's it nevralgia???
Another question. I really see an improve on the Parnate, around 20mg without any BIG side-effects, just sedation and a more physical fatigue related to slow pulse rate and a small increase of BP that never leave me alone after anyway, but for my social phobia and for the decrease of my benzos intake, it was wonderfull, should I return on it, at least at 10mg until I meet my PDoc again the 6th April??? I have something like 22 pills of 10mg leftover. Since I don't know if the Marplan importation will be approved one of these day, I don't even think it will be approved anyway, don't seem to positive and the PDoc don't seem to care and to be very interresting in it...should I do this without telling him??? Because for now, my anxiety level never get so high. The clomipramine experience leave me in a really weird mood with an extra social anxiety and general anxiety that I can't handle anymore, the pins and needles sensation I had on the clomipramine stay after I stop it...strange no??? The increase food intake also...and I hate that!!!
My Valium intake was before 20mg/day, now i'm taking more than 30mg/day, sometimes more. I take 50mg of Seroquel at bedtime to sleep but I have now rebound insomnia, so I sleep maybe 2-3 hours maximum. I'm tired as hell, I can stay in my bed all day long and it's really hard to get clean and dress, take a shower and go out at night. It's also hard to get things done, clean my room, do my laundry, take my appointments, take decisions, begin something and make a positive move in my life...
I want to begin to go to the gym with a friend and to stop smooking...but forget it...I lack any motivation even if I really want to do it!!! I really want to change my lifestyle but for god's sake I can't!!! What is wrong with me???
My psychologist stop my CBT after 6 appointments because I was not able to pratice my social exposure time and didn't have any motivation...she say that I need a Schema theraphy. Well, I just feel like my mental state decrease and that I just get more and more sick. She said that i'm A WAY too much negative, that she's not surprise that the others are not interresting in me because i'm not reflecting a good image. That I keep a self-defense system that I have since my childhood that is not appropriate for an adult of 33yo and that I need to change it to be able to make new friends and to be able to change my life. She also say that if I don't change my character, I will end my life alone and sick!!! She was really nasty with me...anyway she told me she didn't had a lot of affinities with me and I told her the same thing. She said that I was not ready to change my life and that I was lacking any motivation and that I was always blaming the others people who want to try to help me and that I was always not satisfied with the services I recieve...like the PDoc or the others psychologists for example.
She's so wrong... Everyone, who will wait more than 1 year to meet a PDoc, because in the Quebec province (Canada), it's a public system, so you wait on a wating list and take the PDoc they give to you...you cannot choose the one you want...So when you see that the PDoc they give to you take the same road that the other PDoc you had before, prescribe the same meds, even if you told him they don't work, that it will not help you...things like this... everyone who will experience this will feel DISAPOINTED and not satisfied about the services he recieved no??? IS it me or I missing a point here???
If my family Doctor give me a reference paper to see a PDoc, it's because he was out of solution for me, even if it's a Doctor who is a specialist in anxiety problems and he do a lot of research in that field... he wanted to help me and he was sure that refer me to a PDoc will help me to improve more faster with newer solutions...but that's not the case.
The proof, when I return to see my Family Doctor, he told to me the last time that he is disapointed about the way i'm treat at the psychiatrict hospital!!! He don't understand why the two PDoc I meet since 1 year give to me the exactly same meds he tries on me a lot of years before!!! He say that they take the same roads than him and that second tries of meds are normally not good!!! You see, that's a lovely Family Doctor...he laught always about my situation...even if it's not funny...at least he is honnest...but I think he begin to be tired of me also, the last time I see him I ask him when I take my next appointment and he said "let some months pass away before call for another appointment..." I say in my minds...well...I think he is tired of you!!! lol
Anyway...that's not normal to wait more than 1 week before someone call you back at the psychiatrict hospital when you have a problem with a med...that's what happen to me 2 weeks ago... Do you think it's normal to feel disapointed about the services I recieve??? I think my satisfaction level is justify and the psychologist was wrong...she need to return to school or read again her DSM-IV book and be more carefull with her patients or at least have more compassion. I don't think a Schema therapy will help me more...My frustration level is normal, when things don't improves after several years and you see your life decrease like this and you see that you loose precious time and that you are already 33yo and that you don't finish anything in your life, you don't finish school, you don't work, you don't have money, you have school loans to refund (20 000$), you have nothing to you, no money at all, no car, the only thing I have is CD's and one bed...heuuuuu...sorry but that's normal to be frustrated no??? Sorry if i'm bitchy with some people like PDoc or psychologists or pharmacists who seem to lack some professionnal skills... Sometimes I feel like I know more things than them!!! That's not normal, I don't study in the medical field!!! Anyway... It's also normal I think to be a little bit sarcastic...i'm like this...black humour...it's a part of me...that's probably a life saver in my case...if people can't tolerate this part of me, what can I do? Anyway...out of subject again...
Before the Parnate experience back in December, I never experienced heart problems or even complain about others side-effects that completly take the control of my life...now that's seem the side-effect and the disease take the total control of my life and I don't know how to stop this whole process...I just need some advise... Thanks for your precious help!!!
Vincent ;-)
Posted by dcruik518 on March 22, 2009, at 9:06:34
In reply to Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 7:32:44
You're asking a lot of people to read your very lengthy message, especially when there are so many grammatical errors in it.
What you said about Pristiq: In my experience it's been a subtle but effective AD, and it causes less anxiety than Effexor did. Actually, it doesn't really seem to have any side effects at all for me.
Posted by dcruik518 on March 22, 2009, at 9:15:57
In reply to Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 7:32:44
In my experience, it takes about 200-300mg per day of Topamax to have a really noticeable difference on my appetite and weight. At that dose, however, you do get some fairly severe cognitive side effects. If you tend to eat mostly in the evening and aren't working then, you should take it in the late afternoon, in one dose. That way it won't interfere as much with your brain function during the day.
Posted by Justherself54 on March 22, 2009, at 12:06:37
In reply to Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 7:32:44
I can't comment on Pristiq, as I haven't been on it, but I have been on Topamax..I couldn't stand the "word search" side effect of it. Very frustrating when you go to say, "please let the dog out" and the word dog just isn't in your brain..
Posted by Phillipa on March 22, 2009, at 12:33:51
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by Justherself54 on March 22, 2009, at 12:06:37
Wow it's that cognitive dulling? I don't think I'd like this at all. Love Phillipa
Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on March 22, 2009, at 13:10:36
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by dcruik518 on March 22, 2009, at 9:06:34
> You're asking a lot of people to read your very lengthy message, especially when there are so many grammatical errors in it.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel put down, and please be sensitive to the feelings of others. I think it's possible that English is not Vincent_QC's first language, and s/he is doing they best they can writing here? And even if you might be bothered by long posts that may have grammatical errors, maybe others aren't? I think if you or others don't fully understand a post, you can always ask questions to clarify. The idea being, we'd like everyone to be able to feel free to seek support and education at Babble, without worrying about their writing style or skills.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternate ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow ups regarding these issues should be directed to Admin, and should of course, be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.
--10derHeart, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 14:47:51
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by dcruik518 on March 22, 2009, at 9:06:34
> You're asking a lot of people to read your very lengthy message, especially when there are so many grammatical errors in it.
>
> What you said about Pristiq: In my experience it's been a subtle but effective AD, and it causes less anxiety than Effexor did. Actually, it doesn't really seem to have any side effects at all for me.
Hummm sorry for the grammaticals errors...but i'm a french speaking guy...I do my best...and for the rest, I think I never lack any respect on someone on this website...Why did you begin your answer with a nasty message like this??? I don't deserve it!!!That's the kind of answer I don't want to read...I think is not very polite... Yes, my message is long, and yes I do a lot of mistake, but at least I try to write in English...Try to find some English people who will try to write in French without making any errors!!! Good luck!
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 14:52:48
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by Justherself54 on March 22, 2009, at 12:06:37
> I can't comment on Pristiq, as I haven't been on it, but I have been on Topamax..I couldn't stand the "word search" side effect of it. Very frustrating when you go to say, "please let the dog out" and the word dog just isn't in your brain..
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Thanks for your answer ;-)Yeah, I had the same problem around 100mg back in 2004...before my addiction to benzos drugs... What I Can say now is that benzos drugs are A WAY more active in the decrease of cognitives abilities... so I don't mind about the "not finding" the good words problem... and for the memory that's ok...feel numb on a benzo or on the topomax is the same...for me...lol ;-)
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 14:57:34
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax » Justherself54, posted by Phillipa on March 22, 2009, at 12:33:51
> Wow it's that cognitive dulling? I don't think I'd like this at all. Love Phillipa
Humm Jan, that's ok...I mean, benzos drugs take care of my cognitives decrease more harder than the Topamax...so no worry about this ;-) BTW...did you see the first reply I got...did you find it very nice??? That's what I call "not being very polite"... the kind of answer that don't deserve any reply...They say that ignore someone can hurt more than argue with him...let see this!!! ;-)
Like we say in french "Qui mange de la marde!!! "... Hope nobody can read in french!" lol...
Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on March 22, 2009, at 16:36:08
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax » dcruik518, posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 14:47:51
>Why did you begin your answer with a nasty message like this???
>Like we say in french "Qui mange de la marde!!! "... Hope nobody can read in french!" lol...I'm afraid I can, a little. Definitely this - sorry, but we'd like posters to be civil in *any* language, so...
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, even if you feel provoked. As Dr. Bob has said, two wrongs don't make a right. Also, a deputy - in this case it happened to be me - has already warned this poster about posting uncivil or insensitive things directed at you.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternate ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow ups regarding these issues should be directed to Admin, and should of course, be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.
--10derHeart, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by desolationrower on March 22, 2009, at 17:39:13
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 14:57:34
i think topamax is a good thing to try. i think pristique is a good waste of money and time.
-d/r
Posted by Sigismund on March 22, 2009, at 22:07:15
In reply to Please be civil » Vincent_QC, posted by Deputy 10derHeart on March 22, 2009, at 16:36:08
Vincent
I read your posts because I enjoy your gramatical 'errors' so much.
I learn about languges from posts like yours.
Posted by dcruik518 on March 22, 2009, at 22:19:26
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax » dcruik518, posted by Vincent_QC on March 22, 2009, at 14:47:51
Vincent,
I'm sorry. I was rude. I'll be more respectful in the future.
Posted by Phillipa on March 22, 2009, at 23:35:24
In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by Sigismund on March 22, 2009, at 22:07:15
Sigi he's a sweet guy also. You would like him. Love PJ
Posted by 10derHeart on March 22, 2009, at 23:59:49
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax » Vincent_QC, posted by dcruik518 on March 22, 2009, at 22:19:26
...apologizing usually goes a long way here, and everywhere :-)
-- 10der
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 23, 2009, at 5:06:51
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax, posted by desolationrower on March 22, 2009, at 17:39:13
> i think topamax is a good thing to try. i think pristique is a good waste of money and time.
>
> -d/rHi d/r
Thanks! Maybe I do a lot of grammaticals errors but YOU always have short but good answers...For the Topamax, it's only as a weight loose agent, nothing else, in the past I made a try and no improve in my anxiety level. With the benzos, it's seem to be different throught...the first time I was on it, the benzos was out of my life... Now I feel like when I take one 5mg pill of Valium, it's like I take 15mg at the samse time, but my anxiety level don't decrease as much as I can feel the side-effects (lost of coordination and difficulty to speak, forgetting words, fatigue, dizness...). It's seem that at least, it stop the weight gain I was experience from the last fall. I stay on my 226 pounds this week, I used to get at least 1 pounds or 2 a week, sometines 3 or 4...
For the Pristiq....extended patent seem to be the only reason to launch this product by the compagny...but since some people answer differently from Celexa to Lexapro, maybe it will be the same with Effexor VS Pristiq?... What I know is that he do poor result on studies, more than all the others AD's on the market now...
Since I don't have time too lose again on another not working pill, I think I will pass my turn on this one...and wait for the Marplan or be back on the Parnate at low dose....that's better than nothing...I think...
Another time, thanks mister! ;-) Have a nice day!
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 23, 2009, at 5:16:01
In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by Sigismund on March 22, 2009, at 22:07:15
> Vincent
>
> I read your posts because I enjoy your gramatical 'errors' so much.
>
> I learn about languges from posts like yours.Hummm ok ....At least you can learn something from me, that's a good news...lol I hope that you can laught a little bit!!! I know that i'm not very good but at least I try ;-)
Seriously, what you can learn exactly???
For me you can learn ...that I have a poor memory... that I can't use the good verb tense in english.... that I don't know where to put the "S" at the end of the words...that I don't know a bunch of others things like this, those these...you see...lol
For me, english is hard...For someone else, it will be easy to learn more faster, but trust me, with the cognitives abilities I have, I do my best...and you know what??? I lived for 3 years with only speaking english roommattes!!!! No word in french...I improve my speaking english a lot but not the writting...even when I was speaking in english, I was always put some french words in my sentenses...it's the way I am I think...lol ;-)
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 23, 2009, at 5:34:36
In reply to Re: Pristiq + NDPH + Parnate + Topamax » Vincent_QC, posted by dcruik518 on March 22, 2009, at 22:19:26
> Vincent,
>
> I'm sorry. I was rude. I'll be more respectful in the future.Haaa...that's ok dcruik518 ;-) I admit that my messages can be long and also a lot confusing...but I never do this on purpose. IF i'm here, it's probably because I need some help, like 99% of the people who are here also...People in a remission state since more than 1 year, people who are now cure of their mental disease, who have find again a normal life and who have find their solutions and their magic pill to continue to live their life...those people will not come here and loose their time to read all the newer post and answer to all of them...That's what I think...some people will maybe continue to help the others...but they are really precious and rare...
Anyway that's not the point here...I just wanted some point of view, some experiences from people on the board who uses the Pristiq now...people who can proove to me if the side-effects and the studies poor results of the Pristiq are true or false that's it...I need just some basic opinions...
For the rest, I just wanted to keep inform the other members of this forum of my state...since it's always the same people who seem to be active on the board...
And I wanted to have some input about the idea to put myself back on the Parnate in the meanwhile...because it's the only AD who work on me, even if it's hard for my blood pressure...
It was only about this...nothing else...really...
You know, I also got a please be civil and I think that's normal... I'm very easy to get upset, that's a part of my personnality...so I answer fast to your post and in frehcn it was not very nice of course...so forgive me also ;-)
Posted by Sigismund on March 23, 2009, at 20:11:54
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Sigismund, posted by Vincent_QC on March 23, 2009, at 5:16:01
>Seriously, what you can learn exactly???
I learn the pattern of your native language. Sometimes when you write, you translate from (Quebec) French to English.
This I can see because I learned French at school.
It's very interesting and I wish we had more non-native English speakers on Babble.
Posted by 10derHeart on March 23, 2009, at 20:38:04
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Vincent_QC, posted by Sigismund on March 23, 2009, at 20:11:54
I see it, too, Sigi. I rather enjoy the rhythm and patterns in Vincent's posts.
I studied French for 6 years in school. I was being taught the 'classical' version, so they said, France French - lol. I've been told over the years that even if I've retained some (I have - a bit) I would have great trouble understanding spoken French anywhere in Canada, due to dialect, slang, accent, and so on.
I've traveled in France some, and could read enough to survive and stay out of jail. Business people tolerated and understood me when I attempted practice of my broken, rudimentary French. If not, they asked in excellent English, of course, "Could you speak English, please?" Understandable. Of course, if they answered me in French, it was difficult (too fast.)
I really digress and apologize to everyone. Just wanted to agree with you. It's my language and I love it on many levels, but English "rules" make so little sense! I am in awë of anyone who can learn it!! Vincent does a great job :-)
Posted by Vincent_QC on March 24, 2009, at 10:06:22
In reply to French, English, etc. » Sigismund, posted by 10derHeart on March 23, 2009, at 20:38:04
> I see it, too, Sigi. I rather enjoy the rhythm and patterns in Vincent's posts.
>
> I studied French for 6 years in school. I was being taught the 'classical' version, so they said, France French - lol. I've been told over the years that even if I've retained some (I have - a bit) I would have great trouble understanding spoken French anywhere in Canada, due to dialect, slang, accent, and so on.
>
> I've traveled in France some, and could read enough to survive and stay out of jail. Business people tolerated and understood me when I attempted practice of my broken, rudimentary French. If not, they asked in excellent English, of course, "Could you speak English, please?" Understandable. Of course, if they answered me in French, it was difficult (too fast.)
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> I really digress and apologize to everyone. Just wanted to agree with you. It's my language and I love it on many levels, but English "rules" make so little sense! I am in awë of anyone who can learn it!! Vincent does a great job :-)Hoooo you are so sweet!!! Stop it, I will cry ! lol ;-)
I agree...French from Quebec is not the same as the one they teatch at school...even if you live in Toronto and take some french courses, you will learn french from France...not from the Quebec...and that's so different...I mean, I can't hardly understand the french from France...and I speak the french...so you see who it can be complicated!!! BUT I find the french from France and the accent they have to be so much charming and nice than the one weh have in the Quebec ( That's so true that I fall in love with two french guys from France...and it was real stuff...It's almost freaking me out because I normally never fall in love or feel love, I hardly have any feeling...AD's do this over the time I think)...
In the Quebec, we use a lot of slang...like peoples in the States do also...Slang (is it the good word????)... Anyway, in some cities like Montreal for example, the city with the most English speaking peoples in the Quebec province, the French is so bad...it's a kind of mix between the English and the French...you can hear some kind of strange words that you cannot understand...some people rolls their RRRRRRR others don't...that's so strange... In Quebec city, we talk a more proper french...less slang....but some people, like me, are more vulgar (is it the good word another time???)...mean that I use a lot of religious terms to express myself that can offense some people....for me, religion mean nothing, that's my point of view, i'm an atheist, so religion is something like astrology...so I use some bad words in my usual language, and it don't make me a bad guy...but in the eyes of the others, I can be sometimes not really nice and gentle because of that...anyway I don't care...I go to private school as a child, it was running by nuns, they was hard with childs...I Think I get bored of the religion and the authority at an early age...and it's why I got rebel... Anyway...i'm again out of subject!!! lol
I remember something really funny...A TV show this week from FOX TV talked about the Canadian Army and they treat them like they was just b*llsh*t...like the Canada was not a Country...like we was nothing compare to the States...and for me I don't care again..I mean...The proof..I do a little trip to Boston 2 years ago and I meet some girls and boys from there and we had a party one night in my hotel room and we go out at a funny bar after...don't remember the name...but it was nice...and at some point they ask me from witch city I Was...I answer that I Was from Quebec city...in the Canada...Quebec province...They all look at me (10-15 peoples...) and they all say "WHAT"??? Quebec, Canada...where is that Country????
OMG ... I was like ...what??? You don't know where is the Canada??? For god's sake....we are just at maybe 5 hours by car in the North of Boston!!! Hellooooooo , CANADA...maybe we dont have the same weight in the world existence than the USA...BUT we are alive...and we are important also... Anyway, I was drunk and I laught all night long after... I was not upset at all...I was just really worry because I say to myself...the world is running by a powerfull country like the USA...and a lot of people like them don'T know that the CANADA exist!!!! That can be dangerous no????
Anyway, that's funny also because I LIVE in the Canada but I don't know a lot of things about the WEST Canada... I mean that everything that are more in the west of Toronto (Calgary, Edmonton, Alberta...), i'm not aware of anything...no news nothing...it's like the Canada is separated in 2 parts...the est and the west.
That's funny because the Quebec wanted and still want to become a Country and separate from the rest of the Canada...but in fact, it's already like this...we are separeted...we just pay tax and incomes from the Federal governement ...but forget about the rest...we never heard any news about the west of the Canada... The Canadian from the west are not open minded like US (Quebec)...here we are A WAY more open in a lot of subjects...gay unions, religious view (we remove the religion from the school and that's a good thing)...things like this... anyway...out of subject again...but I agree that some peoples from the west CAnada are also open minded...I never go there so I can't be aware at 100% of the situation...maybe i'm wrong also...I can admit my faults...
That's just funny to see how much some Americans people can be so ignorants about the Canada...and IM CIVIL HERE...I don't mean all the americans are ignorants!!!! Some of them...mostly the youngers ones... That's probably because in the States, they don't talk about the Cadana in the news often and at school they don't learn about the Canada also like in history courses.... Here, we heard about States everyday in news and we learn Canadian and also American history in courses...I mean that's closely related...the discovery of the Americas...the way the peoples separeted them and share the country...I think people lack some history culture in general...
Well sorry...my point of view again...nothing against americans people...I love you...Well, maybe not the States who are against gay and have laws against them (sexual acts can be punished), states where they continue to use the capital punishment or things like this...)... That's my point of view again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway...a good day to everyone... all of you are very nice and I like you a lot!!!
Thanks!
Vincent ;-)
Posted by Sigismund on March 24, 2009, at 15:25:45
In reply to Re: French, English, etc. » 10derHeart, posted by Vincent_QC on March 24, 2009, at 10:06:22
>.I mean, I can't hardly understand the french from France...and I speak the french...so you see who it can be complicated!!! BUT I find the french from France and the accent they have to be so much charming and nice than the one weh have in the Quebec
I found trying to speak French in Paris a complete trauma, but in Morocco it was different....no one there cared what your accent was like, and speaking French became much more enjoyable.
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