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Posted by WhatToDoNext on August 6, 2008, at 19:42:13
I hope I can post this, I don't want to break the rules here as I love this sight. I just wanted to share with some of the others here what I go through. I was able to catch it on tape and I've made other videos too. But this one really says it all.
Posted by ricker on August 6, 2008, at 20:58:15
In reply to Video of me having a Panic Attack, posted by WhatToDoNext on August 6, 2008, at 19:42:13
Hey Steve...Gary.
I can see by the video you've been fighting with anxiety for quite some time.
Good on you for trying to remain positive, funny how much strength we get from our kids.We've been discussing our current treatment plans in another thread so no sense rehashing all that.
My first panic attack was in 1973. I was 15 years old.
I can tell you there was not alot of support at the time, most people tried to hide their disorder out of embarrasment.
Most doc's would hand you a prescription for valium and away you'd go.I dropped out of school... too many attacks during class and no one to talk to. My parents thought I was going nuts, so logically, so did I.
From what I saw in the video looked like an anxiety disorder to me.
I don't think it really matters how a doctor labels it, panic attack, anxiety disorder, freakin out...bottom line is that affects our lives.I believe as we grow older, mature or whatever it's called, our ability to deal with stress changes.
So, your panic attacks and all the symptoms they manifested in the past, may present in a different manner today?I would not get to hung up with the "wording" used to descibe your feelings.
If you have been checked out physically and have a clean bill of health, your focus should be "how to enjoy my life, with my family".I believe all the suffering people like us go through only makes us stronger, appreciate the little things in life and so on.
You have experience on your side now. The worst days are behind you, because "you" know what is ailing you. And it is treatable. I've lived through it along with millions of others.
Yes, it can be frustrating and seem like an eternity when the days are a struggle, but it will pass. This I know, and I believe you know as well.
So, we can label it what we want, does it really matter at the end of the day?
If we were told it's called xyz and oh, by the way, there's no cure, we'd still be in the same boat. You are the Captain so stay the course!
Ships ahoy mate. :)
Regards, Rick
Posted by yxibow on August 6, 2008, at 21:18:35
In reply to Video of me having a Panic Attack, posted by WhatToDoNext on August 6, 2008, at 19:42:13
> I hope I can post this, I don't want to break the rules here as I love this sight. I just wanted to share with some of the others here what I go through. I was able to catch it on tape and I've made other videos too. But this one really says it all.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk9M9wVgD1kIf you're having a panic attack, I'm sure you're quite familiar with it having a history of it -- I may be using transference from my own experience, but the fact that you are sitting there taking your own cuff and thankfully not keeling over (no offense meant), and describing all the OK'd tests in the ER, I would say that this could also be enough anxiety built up that it falls not necessarily exactly, but somewhere in the somatoform spectrum.
Pent up anxiety that doesn't know another place to go, for unknown reasons, and with a lot of perfectly "normal" physical health diagnosis, can produce something that appears to be, in your case, normal blood pressure, hyperventilation, and high pulse rate.
Its a treatable condition but requires a certain degree of psychological intervention for one, I think.
Now I could be completely wrong -- but I know that when I have had panic attacks in the past, I was frazzled or paralyzed by fear, none of which I see in the video.It would take a seasoned doctor from academia to tease out what exactly is happening, I think, but in the mean time unless it is contraindicated, why not ask your doctor for some propranolol or clonidine (not both at the same time, the prior being much better) to manage this particular type of manifestation.
-- just a thought
Jay
Posted by Hygieia's Bowl on August 6, 2008, at 22:02:49
In reply to Video of me having a Panic Attack, posted by WhatToDoNext on August 6, 2008, at 19:42:13
> I hope I can post this, I don't want to break the rules here as I love this sight.
I'm sorry for your difficulties but a guideline of the site also includes informing on Adm. when one is an previous poster with a name change - every name change.
Am I mistaken about you?
Posted by Hygieia's Bowl on August 6, 2008, at 22:38:12
In reply to Video of me having a Panic Attack, posted by WhatToDoNext on August 6, 2008, at 19:42:13
I posted before to you saying it was, for me, difficult to convince myself of a *panic attack* when I don't *feel* panic as is classically described or as I've felt it before.
Like you, I had gobs of testing done to rule out other causes - which was the thing to do. All my stuff was negative for any other underlying cause. A diagnosis of exclusion was my finding. Accepting that fact helped alot and was what I needed to do.
As far as naming it, I saw my spells as anxiety episodes. They was not of the classic (if there really is such a thing) variety panic attacks and tended to last quite some time with various physical manifestations. For me, the episodes were based on what I came to see as my amygdala throwing a fit.
Posted by yxibow on August 6, 2008, at 22:49:39
In reply to Re: » WhatToDoNext, posted by Hygieia's Bowl on August 6, 2008, at 22:38:12
> I posted before to you saying it was, for me, difficult to convince myself of a *panic attack* when I don't *feel* panic as is classically described or as I've felt it before.
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> Like you, I had gobs of testing done to rule out other causes - which was the thing to do. All my stuff was negative for any other underlying cause. A diagnosis of exclusion was my finding. Accepting that fact helped alot and was what I needed to do.
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> As far as naming it, I saw my spells as anxiety episodes. They was not of the classic (if there really is such a thing) variety panic attacks and tended to last quite some time with various physical manifestations.The physical manifestations are a clue to what I was describing --- not necessarily a classic somatoform, but somewhere in that spectrum.
For me, the episodes were based on what I came to see as my amygdala throwing a fit.
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Posted by Hygieia's Bowl on August 7, 2008, at 0:19:39
In reply to Re: » Hygieia's Bowl, posted by yxibow on August 6, 2008, at 22:49:39
I got ya.
Sorry if it appeared I didn't.
Posted by Phillipa on August 7, 2008, at 1:13:05
In reply to Video of me having a Panic Attack, posted by WhatToDoNext on August 6, 2008, at 19:42:13
Get your thyroid and antibodies tested as that is what happened to me autoimmune disease worsened and changed anxiety add in lymes disease too. Phillipa also past RN
Posted by B2chica on August 7, 2008, at 9:13:26
In reply to Re: Video of me having a Panic Attack » WhatToDoNext, posted by yxibow on August 6, 2008, at 21:18:35
i agree with jay on this one, a couple years ago i had issues with fast heart rate (oddly only in the evenings) so my pdoc Rx'd propranolol. it worked great.
thanks for sharing that with us.
b2c.
Posted by WhatToDoNext on August 7, 2008, at 11:42:46
In reply to Re: Video of me having a Panic Attack » yxibow, posted by B2chica on August 7, 2008, at 9:13:26
I forgot to mention that I'm Propanolol 20mg twice /day and have been for years. Apparently they arn't working anymore.
Posted by Deputy Racer on August 7, 2008, at 16:48:41
In reply to Video of me having a Panic Attack, posted by WhatToDoNext on August 6, 2008, at 19:42:13
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