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Posted by maoi_wowee on February 21, 2008, at 9:35:26
I'd very much appreciate hearing people's experiences of drinking coffee or other sources of caffeine with Nardil. I'm not asking from a safety perspective (I know it's safe), I'm interested in hearing opinions on whether this is generally a good or bad idea.
Caffeine certainly lifts up my mood and can be particularly helpful in the mornings when I can sometimes be a bit down despite my 75mg/day of Nardil and is absolutely necessary if I have some evening committment when I would otherwise be passed out from Nardil fatigue.
Is there any chance that over time caffeine could be detrimental to the positive effects of Nardil or should I not worry about this.
Thanks!!!
Posted by gardenergirl on February 21, 2008, at 13:51:27
In reply to Nardil + Coffee/Caffeine, posted by maoi_wowee on February 21, 2008, at 9:35:26
I've not had any problems combining caffeine and MAOIs. I typically have the equivalent of three to four cups of coffee or cans of diet coke per day. This seems to keep me going, wards off headaches, and doesn't interfere with my sleep as long as I have the last by about six or seven in the evening.
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Posted by medjuggler on February 22, 2008, at 1:59:00
In reply to Nardil + Coffee/Caffeine, posted by maoi_wowee on February 21, 2008, at 9:35:26
I would steer well clear of it mate - for sure.
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Posted by Jedi on February 22, 2008, at 2:12:25
In reply to Nardil + Coffee/Caffeine, posted by maoi_wowee on February 21, 2008, at 9:35:26
Hi wowee,
You sound very similar to me. Until I get my two or three cups of coffee in the morning, I am generally in a depressed mood. I've talked to my MD about adding modafinil or methylphenidate, but so far no go. Caffeine is a fairly strong stimulant that I don't seem to develop a lot of tolerance to. It is addicting; if I go a day with no coffee, the next day I will have a splitting headache. And I never get headaches.I don't think you have to worry about caffeine being detrimental to the positive affects of Nardil. There are actually many studies showing a positive affect of caffeine.
Be well,
JediReferences:
Enhanced mood and psychomotor performance by a caffeine-containing energy capsule in fatigued individuals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18266548?ordinalpos=11&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumCaffeine activates the PI3K/Akt pathway and prevents apoptotic cell death in a Parkinson's disease model of SH-SY5Y cells.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18201823?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumAdenosine receptor antagonists for cognitive dysfunction: a review of animal studies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17981738?ordinalpos=6&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumReview article: possible beneficial effects of coffee on liver disease and function.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17555416?ordinalpos=13&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum--------------------------------------------------------------------
> I'd very much appreciate hearing people's experiences of drinking coffee or other sources of caffeine with Nardil. I'm not asking from a safety perspective (I know it's safe), I'm interested in hearing opinions on whether this is generally a good or bad idea.
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> Caffeine certainly lifts up my mood and can be particularly helpful in the mornings when I can sometimes be a bit down despite my 75mg/day of Nardil and is absolutely necessary if I have some evening committment when I would otherwise be passed out from Nardil fatigue.
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> Is there any chance that over time caffeine could be detrimental to the positive effects of Nardil or should I not worry about this.
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> Thanks!!!
Posted by squatlover on February 22, 2008, at 4:05:25
In reply to Re: Nardil + Coffee/Caffeine » maoi_wowee, posted by medjuggler on February 22, 2008, at 1:59:00
I have about 80ml of red bull before I go out at night - otherwise I would be fast asleep in the corner. I don't believe about it ruining nardil, I certainly think its essential if I want my day to be any longer than 9pm. i only have it once or twice a week though.
Posted by maoi_wowee on February 22, 2008, at 12:52:04
In reply to Re: Nardil + Coffee/Caffeine, posted by squatlover on February 22, 2008, at 4:05:25
I spoke with my psychologist (not psychiatrist) yesterday on this topic. I didn't address with the him the possibility of a long-term detrimental effect of caffeine on Nardil (I'll deal with that if I have to), but rather the potential crash and/or jitteriness later in the day when I drink caffeine.
What I decided here was that it's very important for me to start the day in a good mood b/c my mood in the morning will likely carry through the day. I'd rather have coffee in the morning and get that uplift to the start of my day and deal with a bit of a crash later than start my day in a negative mood (as occasionally happens w/o coffee) and have that mood continue into my day.
Did that make any sense?
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