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Posted by Declan on February 7, 2007, at 20:56:15
In reply to Raise your hand if you're changing meds now!, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 6, 2007, at 22:27:22
More an unsuccessful addition than a change.
So I
avoided going to the station and called in sick
doubled my Valium dose
had a decent vodka with lunch
lay down and read an account of the origin of the Peleponesian War
felt generally creepy, and
hoped it would get no worse.All the best, Lurps.
Posted by Declan on February 7, 2007, at 20:59:10
In reply to Re: Raise your hand if you're changing meds now! » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 7, 2007, at 15:30:58
I'd be hiding in bed.
Posted by Phillipa on February 7, 2007, at 21:24:23
In reply to You can be busy? » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Declan on February 7, 2007, at 20:59:10
Declan you and I are too much alike. I think I'll move in with you will your wife object? Love PJ
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 7, 2007, at 23:13:22
In reply to Re: You can be busy? » Declan, posted by Phillipa on February 7, 2007, at 21:24:23
Peloponesian war.
oh dear me oh my.
I think that should have a trigger warning on it. I get crazy even contemplating reading the history of an ancient war.
I think I learned some history at some point. probably pooped & peed it away with the rest of my neurotransmitter metabolites.
I gonna go curl up in bed and read the history of the Vlad Dracula. I get to go to Turkey, and communist Hungary and Southern Pyrennees. And it fits in the palm of my hand.
sure wish the rest of my readings fit any of the above criteria.
blech.
much sedated. much less maniac. bless the klonopin. don't worry still had plenty of pep to prepare dinner (soup from scratch) and clean mouse droppings from behind my refrigerator.
I'm very worried about multiple mousies at this point. that was a lot o droppings. I gave my vegetarian roommate ultimatum. one more day of humane catch and release (7 days unsuccessfully deployed) and then the real stuff will be unleashed.
My inner buddhist is tormented. I think I will allow the landlord to place the poison cakes.
((((mousie, move out soon. the end is near. please)))
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 8, 2007, at 10:39:22
In reply to Re: You can be busy? » Phillipa, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 7, 2007, at 23:13:22
pdoc told me to take double my usual clonopin dose cause yesterday I was feeling so hyper.
now today I have a hangover. feels like I was doing vodka shots and dancing on tables into the wee hours.
hope i'm not getting a cold. people around me are getting a cold. ugh.
-Ll
Posted by Crazy Horse on February 8, 2007, at 13:41:45
In reply to Raise your hand if you're changing meds now!, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 6, 2007, at 22:27:22
I'm in the process of going off 3 different meds at the same time; Zoloft, wellbutrin and Lyrica, so that i may start Parnate. My symptoms have been:
Headaches
Fatigue
body aches
nightime sweats and chillsugh! Monte
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 8, 2007, at 14:15:45
In reply to Re: Raise your hand if you're changing meds now! » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Crazy Horse on February 8, 2007, at 13:41:45
Monte, you write about somatic symptoms. Do you have any more psychological symptoms, like anxiety, or bad thoughts or anything?
Sounds like you've got the flu...
today I'm off seroquel for good. I cushioned my fall with 25 mg 2 nights ago, but last night. bye bye.
doc has me on enough clonazepam to make my mind run in a straight (albeit, slow) line, rather than the little circles I've been running around earlier this week.
Therapy has been hard too. ugh. can't think straight. more tears that I prefer.
Seriously Monte- sometimes I prefer the somatic symptoms (until I have them) over the psycho symptoms. How about you?
Warm fuzzy hot water bottles for you and bed rest.
take it easy, k?
Posted by Phillipa on February 8, 2007, at 17:40:49
In reply to Re: Raise your hand if you're changing meds now! » Crazy Horse, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 8, 2007, at 14:15:45
Crazy Horse is having typical withdrawal symtoms but three meds at the same time that's rough. Poor Monte. Love Phiilipa
Posted by Crazy Horse on February 8, 2007, at 17:50:33
In reply to Re: Raise your hand if you're changing meds now! » Crazy Horse, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 8, 2007, at 14:15:45
> Monte, you write about somatic symptoms. Do you have any more psychological symptoms, like anxiety, or bad thoughts or anything?
No, thank God. Psychological wise i feel pretty good.
>
> Seriously Monte- sometimes I prefer the somatic symptoms (until I have them) over the psycho symptoms. How about you?
>
Most definitely!!
Posted by Declan on February 8, 2007, at 19:18:32
In reply to Re: You can be busy? » Phillipa, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 7, 2007, at 23:13:22
'Vlad Dracula. I get to go to Turkey, and communist Hungary and Southern Pyrennees.'
Sounds interesting. The southern Pyrenees is good for histories of witchcraft and the Inquisition.
I've always wanted to go to Hungary and Latvia...very good bone structure...and to Sigishora, of course.
Posted by Alone on February 8, 2007, at 21:52:32
In reply to Raise your hand if you're changing meds now!, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 6, 2007, at 22:27:22
I loved your poem. You so elequently worded the wacko body temperature change experience associated with ADs. Brilliant!
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 8, 2007, at 21:57:27
In reply to Vlad? » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Declan on February 8, 2007, at 19:18:32
> 'Vlad Dracula. I get to go to Turkey, and communist Hungary and Southern Pyrennees.'
I didn't make it to the book last night. I cried myself to sleep. In anticipation of my therapy (today) that explored topics related to the Inquisition. The inquisition of how llurpsie's parents weren't all that they cracked themselves up to be. Episodes of torture that I still cannot bring my voice to speak. I wrote them though, and gave them to T. She said that we can talk about even the scariest stuff gently and with caring.
And when I remember those words, tears come to my eyes, because they come from someone I pay, and not from my parents. The caring is more real from her than from my own mother.
> Sounds interesting. The southern Pyrenees is good for histories of witchcraft and the Inquisition.
>
> I've always wanted to go to Hungary and Latvia...very good bone structure...and to Sigishora, of course.I think I have good bone structure, but it's unfortunately well-insulated at this point. my only regret is that my brow is a bit heavy and my fingers are somewhat stumpy. I wish I had my mom's cheekbones. they are high, but not pointy.
just so that this doesn't get moved elsewhere, I continue the ongoing saga of my withdrawal pangs from cymbalta/seroquel.
upped my dose of clonopin to 1g daily. that makes me feel lethargic, not too upbeat.
have had a very bad headache all day long, but at least it's not throbbing. I've been taking naproxen as needed. Do they sell Naproxen over the counter in Declan land?
It's the best for my particular lurpsie brand of headaches
chamomile tea and no dark chocolate after 4pm.
I've been off caffeine now for 5 days. I feel so... unlurpsielike. like a lump of blub that I just drag around barely tethered to my former self. Why oh why?
-Ll
Posted by Phillipa on February 8, 2007, at 22:05:38
In reply to Ahha! Wacko Body Temperature Changes » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Alone on February 8, 2007, at 21:52:32
Sweetie I'm with you. My friend Lurpsie. Love Phillipa
Posted by Declan on February 9, 2007, at 1:48:19
In reply to Re: Vlad? » Declan, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 8, 2007, at 21:57:27
They that bad? I have some that are pretty creepy and I'm not sure if they are real or not. Childhood is such a sensitive state (despite the behaviour of some children). 'Should a man harm a hair on the heads of one of these little ones, it were better that a millstone were hung about his neck and he were drowned in the depths of the sea' or whatever it is.
Anyway the change in drugs isn't helping atm.
Yes, they sell Naproxyn OTC here, and bugger all else.
I'm not familiar with the recommended dose of clonazepam, and I know you take a bit, but 1g a day sounds like enough to build a decent meth habit on.
Chin up,
Declan
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 9:14:18
In reply to Memories » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Declan on February 9, 2007, at 1:48:19
Declan,
I'm really sensitive to the idea of being addicted to a drug, benzodiazepines in particular. I've always been very adamant about no drugs (street drugs) and have never smoked a single thing in my life. I even get freaked out when I am drinking one beverage a day for couple days in a row.I've had this discussion with my pdoc many times, who tells me that I'm not taking enough of it (klonopin) to live my life without crippling panic symptoms. I resist taking this drug like it's poison.
It would help me a little bit if you would reconsider comparing a prescribed Rx to meth (unsure which meth you are referring to, but either one is unrelated chemically to clonazepam).
Also, there are other good reasons for me to be on an anticonvulsant.
I find this criticism of my dosage and pdockery a little upsetting. At the moment I'm trying very hard to keep myself put together and the klonopin is helping a lot, in my opinion. The pdoc really has to tell me at least once a week to take the dose he prescribes. That's probably because I keep writing panicky emails to him about being manic panicked for a couple days and insomniac and stuff.
yours,
-Ll
Posted by Declan on February 9, 2007, at 14:19:55
In reply to Re: Memories » Declan, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 9:14:18
I'm sorry if I upset you Lurps, and it must have been a typo if you did actually put 1g.
Wasn't trying to suggest anything really, certainly not that you were taking too much clonazepam.
All the best.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 9, 2007, at 14:23:20
In reply to Re: Raise your hand if you're changing meds now!, posted by naughtypuppy on February 7, 2007, at 8:51:01
well sh*t
the lexapro is beating me up after only a few months of kindness
adderall is helping
going to the pdoc today
have emailed him articles on Tianeptine in hopes that he will agree to monitor me
the plunge (lexapro slams you at the end)is horrible
i feel hopeless, helpless, and i am not yet numb but will spre you the long list of negative thoughts
it was nice feeling "okay" for a while
good luck to all who are going through the same
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 17:54:00
In reply to Re: Memories » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Declan on February 9, 2007, at 14:19:55
Sorry Declan
my mind is really messy right now, and I'm having trouble thinking clearly. I can't remember if my tablets come in.5 mg or
.5 gI guess it's the former. But I'm too lazy to check. At any rate, it's a standard dose.
fondly,
Llurpsp.s. how is your medicating going? did you find a tea-merchant? I think that getting things online is very very fun. Like Santa Claus. tea in a box in the mail from the N. Hemisphere. magical.
Posted by Declan on February 9, 2007, at 18:52:33
In reply to Re: Memories » Declan, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 17:54:00
Tea merchants are hard to find. My latest buy was some relatively cheap white tea, and some Dilmah at Woolworths.
It would be natural if the unwellness you feel causes you to have mixed feelings about your treatment.
The important thing is that you be happy with it (I suppose).
This isn't going to be one of those explanations that magnifies the offence, I hope.
I post as if I was sitting around with friends having drinks, which leads me into difficulties sometimes.
Posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 18:54:48
In reply to Re: Memories » Declan, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 17:54:00
Lurpsie .5mg and that is not a high dose at all. A baby one. So try not to worry. Love Phillipa
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 19:10:51
In reply to Re: Memories » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Declan on February 9, 2007, at 18:52:33
> Tea merchants are hard to find. My latest buy was some relatively cheap white tea, and some Dilmah at Woolworths.
I have had great luck finding interesting teas at Asian markets (great prices too!)
>
> It would be natural if the unwellness you feel causes you to have mixed feelings about your treatment.yeah. I just try and have faith in my body and my pdoc to keep me going. one foot ahead of the other. :)
> The important thing is that you be happy with it (I suppose).
> This isn't going to be one of those explanations that magnifies the offence, I hope.
> I post as if I was sitting around with friends having drinks, which leads me into difficulties sometimes.I LIKE posts like that. You know I enjoy Declan-banter. I just wanted to let you know one of my particular sore spots since we lack the face to face communication. (you would have seen me get a little agitated and such, had you said that to my face over drinks (ginger ale for me, by the way))
Since I consider you a great buddy, I just felt that we could clear up one of my particular triggers so that I wouldn't feel uncomfortable around you.
thanks for understanding, and for levity about what is potentially a very dreary subject indeed.
-Ll
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 19:22:21
In reply to Re: Memories » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 18:54:48
> Lurpsie .5mg and that is not a high dose at all. A baby one. So try not to worry. Love Phillipa
I do try not to worry. It's hard though. It's hard enough asking for HELP. It's really hard asking for help from a doctor (don't like doctors much-- bad experiences). VERY VERY hard for me to ask a doctor for a drug, even an antibiotic. I feel like a pill-seeker.
It took me a month of falling asleep for 15 hours a day before I could tell pdoc of excessive sleepiness. I was so worried he'd think of me as being a stimulant junkie- another one of those college students who thinks that the secret to productivity comes in a bottle.
And about 8 months of weekly therapy-induced panic attacks before I could acknowledge to T and pdoc that I was feeling intense panic in the hours preceeding an appt.
And assorted other panicky anxiety thingies too.
I even KNEW ahead of time that my pdoc was not benzo-phobic. He tried to get me to take them before and I said, maybe it's not so bad. Then it got bad. and actually I'm pretty sensitive to them. They do make me feel calmer and more focused. At the moment they are the only thing helping me sleep. On days when I don't take an afternoon/evening dose, I've been getting about 5 hours of restless sleep. Then I send pdoc a panicky e-mail. he says. TAKE the KLONOPIN. okay. he didn't yell at me. but still. I balk. I try to survive on a half tablet until the terror starts rising in my throat. For now, I'm gonna take 1 mg a day in split doses. It's very difficult to find a good balance between feeling manic and feeling mentally retarded. I really have to try hard to get work done in those rare moments when my brain is 1) awake enough to focus 2) not too awake as to be hypervigilant and panicky.
prn of provigil and klonopin. I'm still learning, though. Every day is very different. so unstable.
-Ll
Posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 21:35:11
In reply to Klonopin and Provigil a delicate balance... » Phillipa, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 9, 2007, at 19:22:21
Lurpsie I know did the same thing myself but if I'd listened then I might not be on this board today. So listen to pdoc okay? Love Phillipa
Posted by btrmelnfrm on February 11, 2007, at 12:25:47
In reply to Re: Raise your hand if you're changing meds now! » Phillipa, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on February 7, 2007, at 11:59:36
Seroquel was really tough to come off of. I had all sorts of problems. I did get through it. It took a few months to feel human again. I took Seroquel for 6 years. I went from 200 lbs. to 350 lbs. Since stopping- with diet and exercise- I'm down to 230 in about 6 months time. Hang in there. It does get better. I'm working on getting off Effexor and I'm expecting the worst so hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised.
Posted by Crazy Horse on February 11, 2007, at 18:13:12
In reply to Re: Raise your hand if you're changing meds now!, posted by btrmelnfrm on February 11, 2007, at 12:25:47
> Seroquel was really tough to come off of. I had all sorts of problems. I did get through it. It took a few months to feel human again. I took Seroquel for 6 years. I went from 200 lbs. to 350 lbs. Since stopping- with diet and exercise- I'm down to 230 in about 6 months time. Hang in there. It does get better. I'm working on getting off Effexor and I'm expecting the worst so hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised.
WOW..congratulations!! What kind of diet were/are you on to lose 130 lbs. in 6 mos.? I want on that train!
-Monte
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