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Available in the USA

Posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 11:49:23

In reply to Re: Adrafanil info please... » ronaldo, posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 11:32:31

> Thanks ronaldo, but i do not believe it's available in the U.S. So then i will go with Wellbutrin. Thanks for your help, at least now i know more about Adrafinil. :)
>
> -Monte

Hi Monte,

available from:

[xxx]

I intend to start a course of Adrafinil once I have succeeded in coming off my Olanzapain :-( which will be in a couple of months time.

ronaldo

 

Re: Available in the USA » ronaldo

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 12:03:49

In reply to Available in the USA, posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 11:49:23

> > Thanks ronaldo, but i do not believe it's available in the U.S. So then i will go with Wellbutrin. Thanks for your help, at least now i know more about Adrafinil. :)
> >
> > -Monte
>
> Hi Monte,
>
> available from:
>
> [xxx]
>
> I intend to start a course of Adrafinil once I have succeeded in coming off my Olanzapain :-( which will be in a couple of months time.
>
> ronaldo
>
>
I just ordered a bottle ronaldo, it was $83.00 including shipping. What's the normal dose taken? I got 300 mg. tablets. Thanks.

-Monte

 

Re: Help...Please.

Posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 12:11:01

In reply to Re: Help...Please. » tensor, posted by Crazy Horse on November 26, 2006, at 18:44:46

Well I'm in the same boat w/ you two ... very flat, bottom fell out ... takes the words right out of my mouth if I had the energy to speak!

posted below, cf

 

Re: Available in the USA

Posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 12:41:31

In reply to Re: Available in the USA » ronaldo, posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 12:03:49

Hi Monte

I believe the recommended dose is 2 to 4 x 300mg tablets per day. Bear in mind this medication was designed, according to some of the literature, for the elderly who suffer from narcolepsy. I would suggest 2 tablets to start off with taken say 8 am and 2 pm. This is a tablet that keeps you awake so you don't want to take it later than 2 pm but then I don't really know I'm just guessing really. If I remember correctly it has a half life of one hour and takes about 3 weeks to build up.

Blueberry said he/she took it at one tablet per day for a couple of years. Check this out in the avolition anhedonia thread above.

ronaldo

 

Re: Available in the USA » ronaldo

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 12:47:24

In reply to Re: Available in the USA, posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 12:41:31

> Hi Monte
>
> I believe the recommended dose is 2 to 4 x 300mg tablets per day. Bear in mind this medication was designed, according to some of the literature, for the elderly who suffer from narcolepsy. I would suggest 2 tablets to start off with taken say 8 am and 2 pm. This is a tablet that keeps you awake so you don't want to take it later than 2 pm but then I don't really know I'm just guessing really. If I remember correctly it has a half life of one hour and takes about 3 weeks to build up.
>
> Blueberry said he/she took it at one tablet per day for a couple of years. Check this out in the avolition anhedonia thread above.
>
> ronaldo

ronaldo, you're a great guy..thanks for all your concern and helpful info. I'll babblemail you when i get my adrafinil. :)

-Monte

 

Re: Available in the USA

Posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 12:54:03

In reply to Re: Available in the USA » ronaldo, posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 12:47:24

Monte,

I will be very interested to see how you get on with the Adrafinil. I will be going on it at the end of January after I have managed to kick this Olanzapain habit I've got. I think you will see the full benefit of it after about 3 weeks - that's what blueberry experienced.

...ronaldo

 

Re: Adrafanil info please...

Posted by Declan on November 27, 2006, at 12:56:54

In reply to Adrafanil info please..., posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 11:00:03

I took Adrafinil for about 6 months, maybe, and still have a heap out the back. Eventually it felt as if it wasn't very nice, and that all the stuff about 'eugregorics' didn't apply to me. It certainly did something though. I ended up with what are described as 'states of inner tension'.

 

Re: Available in the USA » ronaldo

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 13:03:51

In reply to Re: Available in the USA, posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 12:54:03

> Monte,
>
> I will be very interested to see how you get on with the Adrafinil. I will be going on it at the end of January after I have managed to kick this Olanzapain habit I've got. I think you will see the full benefit of it after about 3 weeks - that's what blueberry experienced.
>
> ...ronaldo

Hey renaldo, have you ever tryed Lyrica? It's a wonderful drug (classified as an anti-epileptic) but has many off label uses including depression and anxiety. I take 300mgs b.i.d., and without it i know i would be bedridden. If you suffer from depression/anxiety look into it. It actually is very activating, but the dose has to be 600 mgs a day. And it takes about 2-3 weeks of tapering to get the full effect. Low dose Lyrica actually is sedating, when you get to 400-600 mgs. it kicks in and is quite stimulating.

-Monte

 

Re: Adrafanil info please... » Declan

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 13:08:36

In reply to Re: Adrafanil info please..., posted by Declan on November 27, 2006, at 12:56:54

> I took Adrafinil for about 6 months, maybe, and still have a heap out the back. Eventually it felt as if it wasn't very nice, and that all the stuff about 'eugregorics' didn't apply to me. It certainly did something though. I ended up with what are described as 'states of inner tension'.

I'm sorry it didn't work for you Declan. It may not work for me either, but i am sure hoping it will!

-Monte

 

Re: Available in the USA » Crazy Horse

Posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 13:10:24

In reply to Re: Available in the USA » ronaldo, posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 13:03:51

> > Monte,
> >
> > I will be very interested to see how you get on with the Adrafinil. I will be going on it at the end of January after I have managed to kick this Olanzapain habit I've got. I think you will see the full benefit of it after about 3 weeks - that's what blueberry experienced.
> >
> > ...ronaldo
>
> Hey renaldo, have you ever tryed Lyrica? It's a wonderful drug (classified as an anti-epileptic) but has many off label uses including depression and anxiety. I take 300mgs b.i.d., and without it i know i would be bedridden. If you suffer from depression/anxiety look into it. It actually is very activating, but the dose has to be 600 mgs a day. And it takes about 2-3 weeks of tapering to get the full effect. Low dose Lyrica actually is sedating, when you get to 400-600 mgs. it kicks in and is quite stimulating.
>
> -Monte

Thanks Monte, I will keep it in mind. I never realised it was an anti-convulsant.

ronaldo

 

Re: Adrafanil info please... » Crazy Horse

Posted by ronaldo on November 27, 2006, at 13:23:11

In reply to Adrafanil info please..., posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 11:04:42

> I know nothing about Adrafanil, except i have heard it can increase energy and interest in life, which i am looking for.
>
> 1) What type of med is it i.e., antidepressant, anti-psychotic,etc?
>
> 2) Is it available in the U.S?
>
> 3) Any personal experiences with it?
>
> 4) How does it work? Dopamine? GABA? Etc?
>
> 5) Please, if you have any personal experiences with Adrafanil please tell me how it worked for you..good or bad experiences welcome.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> -Monte

Monte,

Here's some info I have just found:

http://www.remedyfind.com/treatments/0/2625/

Hope it helps

ronaldo

 

Re: Available in the USA » Crazy Horse

Posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 13:30:45

In reply to Re: Available in the USA » ronaldo, posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 13:03:51

Monte I'm only on 75mg Lyrica. When I first took it, the first few days, I felt good, better! Then nothing. Maybe it is responsible for this fatigue. Maybe I should make a call and increase it. You can take it during the day? Wow. I thought it was just to be taken at bedtime. Think I need to make this move?

tks, cf

 

Re: Help...Please.

Posted by KayeBaby on November 27, 2006, at 13:34:07

In reply to Help...Please., posted by Crazy Horse on November 26, 2006, at 18:03:31

> I'm not depressed or anxious, but i have lost my energy (this has been going on for about 3 wks now) i have no motivation, im losing my zest for life, i don't feel like doing much of anything!
>
> I'm thinking i need more dopomine..specifically Wellbutrin. My current drug cocktail is 150 mgs. Zoloft, 300 mgs. Lyrica b.i.d., 1 mg. klonopin b.i.d., and 300mgs. of trazodone at bedtime.
>
> I definitely feel very flat. Any suggestions/ideas will be greatly appreciated. I see my pdoc this week and i was going to ask if i could add on Wellbutrin.
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> -Monte
>

Hey Monte,
I have been on Lyrica for just shy of a year and what I have found is that after a while at the same dose I just go flat. Just blah feeling.

Through trial and error I have figured out that Lyrica (at least for me) after a time at the same dosage requires an increase. It acts as though your blood levels are falling and it is as if you are in a constant state of mild withdrawal from the drug.

I have not wanted to increase so I have backed off the dosage when this has happened for just a couple of days or so by taking less more often then I go back up. I do best with this drug taking smaller amounts every 4-5 hrs with bedtime being the largest dose of the day.

Just a thought,
Peace,
Kaye

 

Re: Help...Please. » KayeBaby

Posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 13:49:09

In reply to Re: Help...Please., posted by KayeBaby on November 27, 2006, at 13:34:07

Kaye .. an interesting and inventive way to handle this.

What is your highest dosage of Lyrica (when you go high w/ it)?

Do you take the highest amount at bedtime (when you go high w/ it)?

tks, cf

 

Re: Adrafanil info please... » Declan

Posted by Quintal on November 27, 2006, at 13:49:47

In reply to Re: Adrafanil info please..., posted by Declan on November 27, 2006, at 12:56:54

> I took Adrafinil for about 6 months, maybe, and still have a heap out the back. Eventually it felt as if it wasn't very nice, and that all the stuff about 'eugregorics' didn't apply to me. It certainly did something though. I ended up with what are described as 'states of inner tension'.

I tried adrafinil a while ago along with some other nootropics and felt no effect. I was taking a hefty dose of clonazepam at the time though so perhaps that was masking the stimulant effect?

Q

 

Re: Adrafanil info please... » Quintal

Posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 13:57:13

In reply to Re: Adrafanil info please... » Declan, posted by Quintal on November 27, 2006, at 13:49:47

I'm wondering if my Valium dosage total 25mg a day masked the effect of Provigil too.

cf

 

Re: Available in the USA » corafree

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 14:07:43

In reply to Re: Available in the USA » Crazy Horse, posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 13:30:45

> Monte I'm only on 75mg Lyrica. When I first took it, the first few days, I felt good, better! Then nothing. Maybe it is responsible for this fatigue. Maybe I should make a call and increase it. You can take it during the day? Wow. I thought it was just to be taken at bedtime. Think I need to make this move?
>
> tks, cf

Yep..call your pdoc and increase the dose to (titrate up of course) 300mgs. a.m. and 300mgs. around 2:00 p.m. You should feel a big improvement. It works very well for my depression. Good luck girl!

-Monte

 

Re: Help...Please. » KayeBaby

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 14:30:23

In reply to Re: Help...Please., posted by KayeBaby on November 27, 2006, at 13:34:07

> > I'm not depressed or anxious, but i have lost my energy (this has been going on for about 3 wks now) i have no motivation, im losing my zest for life, i don't feel like doing much of anything!
> >
> > I'm thinking i need more dopomine..specifically Wellbutrin. My current drug cocktail is 150 mgs. Zoloft, 300 mgs. Lyrica b.i.d., 1 mg. klonopin b.i.d., and 300mgs. of trazodone at bedtime.
> >
> > I definitely feel very flat. Any suggestions/ideas will be greatly appreciated. I see my pdoc this week and i was going to ask if i could add on Wellbutrin.
> >
> > Thanks for listening.
> >
> > -Monte
> >
>
> Hey Monte,
> I have been on Lyrica for just shy of a year and what I have found is that after a while at the same dose I just go flat. Just blah feeling.
>
> Through trial and error I have figured out that Lyrica (at least for me) after a time at the same dosage requires an increase. It acts as though your blood levels are falling and it is as if you are in a constant state of mild withdrawal from the drug.
>
> I have not wanted to increase so I have backed off the dosage when this has happened for just a couple of days or so by taking less more often then I go back up. I do best with this drug taking smaller amounts every 4-5 hrs with bedtime being the largest dose of the day.
>
> Just a thought,
> Peace,
> Kaye

Thanks Kaye..I think you may be absolutely right. The Lyrica is not as effective as it used to be. Thank you..i will mention it to my pdoc today, however i don't think he'll go higher than 600 mgs.

-Monte

 

Re: Adrafanil info please...

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 14:40:27

In reply to Re: Adrafanil info please... » Quintal, posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 13:57:13

> I'm wondering if my Valium dosage total 25mg a day masked the effect of Provigil too.
>
> cf

cf, my guess is yes. You need the valium, but perhaps(just my opinion) you could slowly lower the dose. My pdoc always preaches to me that benzo's can cause depression..i believe him. I take 1 mg. of Klonopin b.i.d. myself. Lyrica also helps with reducing anxiety, so i can stay at my fairly low benzo dose.

-Monte

 

Adrafanil and Hydergine » Quintal

Posted by Declan on November 27, 2006, at 14:56:17

In reply to Re: Adrafanil info please... » Declan, posted by Quintal on November 27, 2006, at 13:49:47

I had a nasty experience with Hydergine and Adrafinil. It was a difficult business thing and the combo was quite unhelpful when I really needed something. I had trouble speaking. Not terror, I just felt really strange and inarticulate.

How much Adrafinil did you take, Quintal? I took from 1 to 6 tabs a day, but mostly 2.

 

Re: Available in the USA » Crazy Horse

Posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 15:14:04

In reply to Re: Available in the USA » corafree, posted by Crazy Horse on November 27, 2006, at 14:07:43

None at bedtime Monte? cf

 

Re: Adrafanil and Hydergine » Declan

Posted by Quintal on November 27, 2006, at 16:03:20

In reply to Adrafanil and Hydergine » Quintal, posted by Declan on November 27, 2006, at 14:56:17

I can't remember how much I took exactly. Probably much more than recommended knowing me. I was taking it in combo with piracetam and vinpocetine.

>I had trouble speaking. Not terror, I just felt really strange and inarticulate.

I had this problem with olanzapine and lamotrigine. It seemed to take me a few seconds to understand what was being said to me and think of the words to respond properly. Also had difficulty reading.

Q

 

Re: Help...Please.

Posted by KayeBaby on November 27, 2006, at 16:28:24

In reply to Re: Help...Please. » KayeBaby, posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 13:49:09

> Kaye .. an interesting and inventive way to handle this.
>
> What is your highest dosage of Lyrica (when you go high w/ it)?
>
> Do you take the highest amount at bedtime (when you go high w/ it)?
>
> tks, cf

I don't think I have went higher than around 300mg in the past. But it does seem like I may be inching above that point now. I have 75mg caps and I do open them up so that I can take the med in smaller amounts more frequently.

I have found that if I find myself feeling negative and draggy-like "I suck" and I just want to lay there it is a sure sign that I am needing more Lyrica.

This threw me at first because I thought maybe it was too uch and was de-motivating me. You know when you feel so crappy and you think 'well, taking more will either help or it won't.' Consistantly this is the case although I doubt it everytime.

Lyrical seems to just race through my system and it is definately a med that keeping a steady blood level is necessary. If I skip my larger nighttime dose it takes me all day to get it straight. I can't just take a big dose to amke up for it. Dunno why but many micro-doses are better.

This is a pain in the butt but :) the stuff helps me in ways nothing else ever has.

Hey-no free rides I guess. I do feel like this med is healing to my nervous system and brain-not toxic like I feel with many other drugs.


Peace,
Kaye

 

Re: Adrafanil and Hydergine » Declan

Posted by shasling on November 28, 2006, at 5:21:24

In reply to Adrafanil and Hydergine » Quintal, posted by Declan on November 27, 2006, at 14:56:17

> I had a nasty experience with Hydergine and Adrafinil. It was a difficult business thing and the combo was quite unhelpful when I really needed something. I had trouble speaking. Not terror, I just felt really strange and inarticulate.

Declan, aside from the combo with the adrafanil, did you get any benefit from the hydergine? I took that for a while and didnt notice a huge difference, but wonder whether its not good to take anyway on general principle just for the vasodilator effect...

Also, how much were you taking?

Thanks,

Suzie

 

Re: Available in the USA

Posted by Crazy Horse on November 28, 2006, at 11:19:57

In reply to Re: Available in the USA » Crazy Horse, posted by corafree on November 27, 2006, at 15:14:04

> None at bedtime Monte? cf

No, because high dose is stimulating. My exact regimine is 300mgs at around 7-8:00 a.m., then around 2-3:00 p.m i take another 300mgs. It really works well..I'm not really depressed right now, just trapped inside this lethargic, tired body. I need something for energy, some dopamine (Wellbutrin) which i got yesterday. :) My shrink pretty much trusts me and gives me what i ask for, except he will not do stimulants. I hope you are feeling better today Cora..please,please, try the high dose Lyrica. What do you have to lose? If it doesn't work..big deal, time to try something else. You can ramp up pretty quickly, don't expect to feel better until you take 300mgs. in one dose.

-Monte


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