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Posted by Tepiaca on March 20, 2006, at 20:17:14
In reply to Re: When its gonna kick in again the Nardil? » Tepiaca, posted by rod on March 20, 2006, at 19:13:35
> Hi tepiaca!
>
> Sorry to hear things are rough for you :(
>
> But I would not combine Nardil with Parnate. Ace once posted that someone got a stroke from combining these two. Iwhat exactly is a stroke ??? I dont know very well
english. is it the same than an hypertensive crisis.
how much time could it pass until I die? is it very suffering?> If its really unbearable, I would try to get into hospital, if possible. maybe you can call a relative or friend to help you to get there. Would that be an option?
>I have no money to pay the hospital, Im alone at this moment, I leave home to find a job =(
> take care
> hugs
> Roland
Posted by Tepiaca on March 20, 2006, at 20:28:03
In reply to Re: When its gonna kick in again the Nardil? » Tepiaca, posted by SLS on March 20, 2006, at 19:29:31
> Do you have any Zyprexa?
I have Risperdal not Zyprexa, I guess you are thinking that this are gonna make stop thinking in suicide rigth Scott?
Scott I am very bad now, I can´t leave bed. I dont eat nothing. I´ve just drink a beer to cheer me up. I feel bad.
Do you believe an stimulant could help me combat this Social Phobia ? I have tried all kind of meds , except those. Doc is also suggesting ECT. I never have heard this good for social phobia.
Rigth now I feel stupid , I don´t care nothing about life , I dont want to take a bat , I dont want and I cant talk to anybody I haven´t eat in a single pice of food in all day and Im not hungry. Never ever have I felt like this in my whole life before. I just want a magic pillthank you for your support
by the way, can you tell me what would happen if I have a stroke? how is a stroke ? how dangerous is ?
TEP
>
> Try not to let your desperation cause you to do anything impulsive or reckless.
>
> Playing with drugs is not in your best interests. Regardless of what was your previous experience with Nardil, it might take 2-3 weeks at 75mg before you see any improvement. Waiting is very difficult, I know.
>
> For now, it might be a good idea to work on the anxiety.
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by SLS on March 20, 2006, at 20:54:52
In reply to Re: When its gonna kick in again the Nardil?, posted by Tepiaca on March 20, 2006, at 20:28:03
> > Do you have any Zyprexa?
> I have Risperdal not Zyprexa, I guess you are thinking that this are gonna make stop thinking in suicide rigth Scott?Yes. Does Risperdal help you?
> Scott I am very bad now, I can´t leave bed.
Depression? Anxiety?
Can you describe your symptom history?
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on March 20, 2006, at 21:51:52
In reply to Re: When its gonna kick in again the Nardil?, posted by SLS on March 20, 2006, at 20:54:52
Tepi where is your girlfriend I know she lives in the States. You must call her on the phone and get her to come and get you or get someone else to get you to a decent doctor in the states at a hospital Now!!!!! Don't wait you have waited too long. A stoke is a very bad thing. It can leave you paralzyed unable to speak at all or walk or never ever work. Ace just answered anothe of your threads he said it will happen you will feel better and you have to eat anything. Ask someone for some food. You know how to Babblemail and you have my E-mail address. Love Phillipa I love you Tepi we all do.
Posted by jedi on March 20, 2006, at 23:49:22
In reply to When its gonna kick in again the Nardil?, posted by Tepiaca on March 20, 2006, at 16:08:54
>
> It used to kick after 3 o 4 dayds at only
> 45mg. I have been more than 2 weeks and nothing
> happen yet. Im having the worst depression I ever
> had in my life. Im starting to take 75 sometimes
> 90 . I only can be at bed. I feel terrible
> terrible. I can´t talk to nobody , this is the
> worst because I need a job rigth now. Can you
> tell me what happen if add a little bit of Parnate to Nardil . Am Im going to have an Hypertensive crisis or what is rhe danger with that?. Help me guysTep,
Don't add Parnate to the Nardil. Way too dangerous, especially the way you are feeling now. Can you get hold of some benzos. I used fairly high dosages of clonazepam(3mg-5mg); just to get some relief until the Nardil had a chance to work. This can sometimes take several weeks at your 75-90mg. Hang in there guy. I've been right where you are at, and it will pass.
Take care,
Jedi
Posted by TylerJ on March 21, 2006, at 8:28:27
In reply to When its gonna kick in again the Nardil?, posted by Tepiaca on March 20, 2006, at 16:08:54
>
> It used to kick after 3 o 4 dayds at only
> 45mg. I have been more than 2 weeks and nothing
> happen yet. Im having the worst depression I ever
> had in my life. Im starting to take 75 sometimes
> 90 . I only can be at bed. I feel terrible
> terrible. I can´t talk to nobody , this is the
> worst because I need a job rigth now. Can you
> tell me what happen if add a little bit of Parnate to Nardil . Am Im going to have an Hypertensive crisis or what is rhe danger with that?. Help me guys
Tep,
I don't want to confuse you, I think right now you need to listen to Ace and Scott-they both know a lot about Nardil. Believe me this will pass! I Love you Bro and will be praying for you.Tyler
Posted by ed_uk on March 21, 2006, at 14:53:34
In reply to When its gonna kick in again the Nardil?, posted by Tepiaca on March 20, 2006, at 16:08:54
Hi Tepi
Nardil can take a few weeks to kick in. Perhaps you could take some Seroquel to help keep you calm while you wait for the Nardil to start working.
Take care
Ed
Posted by JaclinHyde on March 21, 2006, at 19:19:58
In reply to answer me someone please !!! (nm), posted by Tepiaca on March 20, 2006, at 17:12:15
I will repeat what I said my doctor asked me that one time long ago when I was waiting for Nardil to kick in. "Do you feel ANYTHING?" That goes for weird feelings in your head, side effects, ANYTHING? I told him I did to which he replied "well that means it is in your system doing something, give it a little more time" Probably the most insightful thing he could say to me. And sure enough about 4 days or so later I was on top of the world. Tepi, I would ask you the same question he asked me. Do you feel ANYTHING different? You might need a higher dose but you might just need some more time. Depression is excruiating believe me I know. Just try your damndest to hold on for just a little bit longer.
In the meantime we are here.
Love,
JH
Posted by Tepiaca on March 23, 2006, at 17:32:40
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!!, posted by JaclinHyde on March 21, 2006, at 19:19:58
Hi guys thank you for your responses. I still
feel bad, I just would like to be able to talk
people and have a free mind. I need a job !
I can´t even talk to the person who sell fruit
in the supermarket. That is what im waiting the
nardil to do , that is what I have waiting every
med I´ve taken do. That is what I would call a real "kick in ". I cant avoid suicide thougths,
every day of my life makes me think I have no
reason to stay here
Posted by Phillipa on March 23, 2006, at 19:36:06
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!!, posted by Tepiaca on March 23, 2006, at 17:32:40
Tepi we love you and can't you get to the states? And go to a hospital there and see a good doc there. We care and love you very deeply. Tyler is very worried about you too and everyone else is too. Love with all my heart Phillipa
Posted by TylerJ on March 23, 2006, at 21:29:38
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!!, posted by Tepiaca on March 23, 2006, at 17:32:40
>
>
> Hi guys thank you for your responses. I still
> feel bad, I just would like to be able to talk
> people and have a free mind. I need a job !
> I can´t even talk to the person who sell fruit
> in the supermarket. That is what im waiting the
> nardil to do , that is what I have waiting every
> med I´ve taken do. That is what I would call a real "kick in ". I cant avoid suicide thougths,
> every day of my life makes me think I have no
> reason to stay here
Hi Tepi,
It's so good to hear from you...I think about you,and pray for you many times each day. Like Phillipa says, Is there any way you can come to the U.S.? Remember this, Social phobia is very common, I have it, heck I bet most people here have it. What you must keep in mind is that it is treatable, very much so. Nardil and Parnate are considered two of the best meds for it. Klonopin is also very good. But most people do best with "Talk Therapy" and drugs. See if your doc can set you up with a good Therapist who specializes in Social Phobia. Also,although I'm doing pretty good right now, I Still battle social phobia once in awhile...just to give you an example of what I do, when I start worrying too much about what people are thinking of me I say to myself F*ck them, I don't care what they think of me...and this really works for me-takes some practice, but it works! Let me/us know what your plans are,and how your doing. Please post something, even something very small everyday...we're all very concerned about you Tep. I Love and care about you my friend..and anxiously wait for the day to come when you are feeling much better!May God Bess You,
Tyler
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2006, at 16:41:39
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!! » Tepiaca, posted by TylerJ on March 23, 2006, at 21:29:38
Hi Tep
I hope, as you sound, that you don't feel quite so bad as you have done. It is awful though to feel that all of the very ordinary pleasures of life are beyond you because of your fear. But Nardil worked reasonably well for you before (better than anything else) and eventually will do so again, with time and trial and error.
Declan
Posted by Tepiaca on March 24, 2006, at 19:27:03
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!! » Tepiaca, posted by TylerJ on March 23, 2006, at 21:29:38
>
> Hi Tepi,
> It's so good to hear from you...I think about you,and pray for you many times each day. Like Phillipa says, Is there any way you can come to the U.S.?I can´t do it =( . no money for that
Remember this, Social phobia is very common, I have it, heck I bet most people here have it. What you must keep in mind is that it is treatable, very much so. Nardil and Parnate are considered two of the best meds for it.
I think I should give Parnate another try. It was only four days. Very short time
I Still battle social phobia once in awhile...just to give you an example of what I do, when I start worrying too much about what people are thinking of me I say to myself F*ck them, I don't care what they think of me...and this really works for me-takes some practice, but it works!I wish that could work for me. I have tried that in the last 9 years, but this is stronger , much much much stronger than me.
Let me/us know what your plans are,and how your doing. Please post something, even something very small everyday...we're all very concerned about you Tep. I Love and care about you my friend..and anxiously wait for the day to come when you are feeling much better!
>
> May God Bess You,
>
> TylerThanks ty. Im very concerned rigth now, Im just waiting the Nardil to give me a little of peace , like in the past. I need a job , and going to interviews in this condition does not benefit
me, as you may realize. I come to the home destroyed, wishing to be living someone else´s life. I m always thinking that I would love to had been a dog or a bird and not a human being.
I really want to be a good person , this have been a very hard punishment and I sweare to God that if He gives me an opportunity to live a little bit better Im would never dissapoint him.
I would try to be the best human being on earth.Im gonna be all weekend on bed, I feel very tired and hopeless. If you have messenger on hotmail I think we could talk. I would like to talk someone from here by chat
Thanks for everything Ty =)
TEP
Posted by Tepiaca on March 24, 2006, at 19:29:43
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!!, posted by Declan on March 24, 2006, at 16:41:39
> Hi Tep
> I hope, as you sound, that you don't feel quite so bad as you have done. It is awful though to feel that all of the very ordinary pleasures of life are beyond you because of your fear. But Nardil worked reasonably well for you before (better than anything else) and eventually will do so again, with time and trial and error.
> DeclanThank you Dec, I wish I had a magic Pill who can solve of my life problems. It just a freaky wish.....=)
Posted by Tepiaca on March 24, 2006, at 19:31:54
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!! » Tepiaca, posted by Phillipa on March 23, 2006, at 19:36:06
> Tepi we love you and can't you get to the states? And go to a hospital there and see a good doc there. We care and love you very deeply. Tyler is very worried about you too and everyone else is too. Love with all my heart Phillipa
I can´t go dear Jane =( . Im in a very difficult time rigth now, no money , no job , no happines, homealone. Hope things will get better soon
tep
Posted by Phillipa on March 24, 2006, at 21:25:55
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!! » Phillipa, posted by Tepiaca on March 24, 2006, at 19:31:54
Tepi I thought you're whole family was surrounding you? And that you were sad that you could not live up to your girlfriends needs and families needs. Why are you all alone where is your family. Love hugs, kisses Jan/phillipa
Posted by Tepiaca on March 25, 2006, at 0:25:04
In reply to Tepi Wait a Minute » Tepiaca, posted by Phillipa on March 24, 2006, at 21:25:55
> Tepi I thought you're whole family was surrounding you? And that you were sad that you could not live up to your girlfriends needs and families needs. Why are you all alone where is your family. Love hugs, kisses Jan/phillipa
That was one week ago Jane. I had to travel to the city where I studied my undergraduate degree. Im looking for a job, I live alone here. My family is in another place now, also my exgirl. I know this is dangerous but I have to do it =( . I need to work
Posted by JaclinHyde on March 25, 2006, at 1:48:06
In reply to Re: Tepi Wait a Minute » Phillipa, posted by Tepiaca on March 25, 2006, at 0:25:04
Tepi if you don't mind me asking, where in Mexico do you live?
JH
Posted by Tepiaca on March 25, 2006, at 10:24:16
In reply to Re: Tepi Wait a Minute, posted by JaclinHyde on March 25, 2006, at 1:48:06
> Tepi if you don't mind me asking, where in Mexico do you live?
>
> JHIn this moment I am in the north of Mexico at Monterrey, 2 hours car from texas
Tep
Posted by Phillipa on March 25, 2006, at 17:29:13
In reply to Re: Tepi Wait a Minute » JaclinHyde, posted by Tepiaca on March 25, 2006, at 10:24:16
Tep where are you getting internet access from? Are you staying with a friend? Love Jan
Posted by Tepiaca on March 25, 2006, at 23:36:37
In reply to Re: Tepi Wait a Minute » Tepiaca, posted by Phillipa on March 25, 2006, at 17:29:13
> Tep where are you getting internet access from? Are you staying with a friend? Love Jan
I have a PC in my home Jan =) . I rent a little apartment
Posted by TylerJ on March 26, 2006, at 11:25:24
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!! » TylerJ, posted by Tepiaca on March 24, 2006, at 19:27:03
>
> >
> > Hi Tepi,
> > It's so good to hear from you...I think about you,and pray for you many times each day. Like Phillipa says, Is there any way you can come to the U.S.?
>
> I can´t do it =( . no money for that
>
>
> Remember this, Social phobia is very common, I have it, heck I bet most people here have it. What you must keep in mind is that it is treatable, very much so. Nardil and Parnate are considered two of the best meds for it.
>
>
> I think I should give Parnate another try. It was only four days. Very short time
>
>
> I Still battle social phobia once in awhile...just to give you an example of what I do, when I start worrying too much about what people are thinking of me I say to myself F*ck them, I don't care what they think of me...and this really works for me-takes some practice, but it works!
>
> I wish that could work for me. I have tried that in the last 9 years, but this is stronger , much much much stronger than me.
>
>
>
>
> Let me/us know what your plans are,and how your doing. Please post something, even something very small everyday...we're all very concerned about you Tep. I Love and care about you my friend..and anxiously wait for the day to come when you are feeling much better!
> >
> > May God Bess You,
> >
> > Tyler
>
> Thanks ty. Im very concerned rigth now, Im just waiting the Nardil to give me a little of peace , like in the past. I need a job , and going to interviews in this condition does not benefit
> me, as you may realize. I come to the home destroyed, wishing to be living someone else´s life. I m always thinking that I would love to had been a dog or a bird and not a human being.
> I really want to be a good person , this have been a very hard punishment and I sweare to God that if He gives me an opportunity to live a little bit better Im would never dissapoint him.
> I would try to be the best human being on earth.
>
> Im gonna be all weekend on bed, I feel very tired and hopeless. If you have messenger on hotmail I think we could talk. I would like to talk someone from here by chat
>
> Thanks for everything Ty =)
> TEP
>Hi Tep,
My family and I are on a "mini vacation" but will return home monday or tuesday...I'll write more when I get home. Sounds like you are doing a little better...maybe the Nardil has kicked in a little?? Sure hope so anyway! I'll talk to you soon my friend..God bless.
Tyler
Posted by CEK on March 26, 2006, at 22:38:29
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!! » Tepiaca, posted by TylerJ on March 26, 2006, at 11:25:24
Tepi, does your family know how bad you feel? Do you get to talk to them? Can you go stay with them until you get back on your feet? You don't need to be by yourself right now. I feel alot like you do and am not working because of my condition. It is so hard to get treatment when money is low, so at least try to go to your family so they can at least give you the love you need. They will always love you and would hate to think that you would consider harming yourself. They would have to live with that forever! Have you asked them for help? At least you are chating on this site with people that care about your well being. I know it helps me feel like I'm not the only one with problems. It makes us all put our issues on hold and think about how bad others have it. I never attempted suicide although have thought about it and made plans. I was always affraid that I would screw it up and live my life as a vegetable or paralized and then I'd really be worse off. I also couldn't stand the thought of the ones I love feeling bad or thinking if they just would've known maybe they could've done something. You've made great accomplishments so far in life. Look at your schooling! That's more than alot of people even myself have done! Don't be too proud to ask for help, you're worth it! And it will get better,even though the job situation is making matters worse for you. It sounds like you do have God in your life even if you feel like there is no one else. Do you read the Bible? Not to preach, but when times were really bad for me Proverbs gave me strength. Also, if you've spoken to God and promised Him how you would be if He helped you through this, keep praying to him. God doesn't answer the occational pray all the time. Sometimes you really have to stay on Him. This I know from experience. Pray to Him constantly if you can't do anything else, you should still be able to this. He will listen, He just has to know you are sincere and really need Him. When all else fails you, go to Him. He's waiting for you to ask for His help. I believe things like this happen so you will be pulled closer to Him. I believe that He does things to shake your tree and wake you up so you will turn your life around and bring yourself closer to Him. Sorry to preach, I just know at my darkest hour He's always been there when I really needed Him. He'll be there for you too. Don't give up!
Posted by Tepiaca on March 29, 2006, at 23:37:29
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!!, posted by CEK on March 26, 2006, at 22:38:29
> Tepi, does your family know how bad you feel? Do you get to talk to them? Can you go stay with them until you get back on your feet? You don't need to be by yourself right now. I feel alot like you do and am not working because of my condition. It is so hard to get treatment when money is low, so at least try to go to your family so they can at least give you the love you need. They will always love you and would hate to think that you would consider harming yourself. They would have to live with that forever! Have you asked them for help? At least you are chating on this site with people that care about your well being. I know it helps me feel like I'm not the only one with problems. It makes us all put our issues on hold and think about how bad others have it. I never attempted suicide although have thought about it and made plans. I was always affraid that I would screw it up and live my life as a vegetable or paralized and then I'd really be worse off. I also couldn't stand the thought of the ones I love feeling bad or thinking if they just would've known maybe they could've done something. You've made great accomplishments so far in life. Look at your schooling! That's more than alot of people even myself have done! Don't be too proud to ask for help, you're worth it! And it will get better,even though the job situation is making matters worse for you. It sounds like you do have God in your life even if you feel like there is no one else. Do you read the Bible? Not to preach, but when times were really bad for me Proverbs gave me strength. Also, if you've spoken to God and promised Him how you would be if He helped you through this, keep praying to him. God doesn't answer the occational pray all the time. Sometimes you really have to stay on Him. This I know from experience. Pray to Him constantly if you can't do anything else, you should still be able to this. He will listen, He just has to know you are sincere and really need Him. When all else fails you, go to Him. He's waiting for you to ask for His help. I believe things like this happen so you will be pulled closer to Him. I believe that He does things to shake your tree and wake you up so you will turn your life around and bring yourself closer to Him. Sorry to preach, I just know at my darkest hour He's always been there when I really needed Him. He'll be there for you too. Don't give up!
Thank you CEk those are very nice words. I really appreciate for your support in this difficult moment.I´ll keep praying
Tep
Posted by maryhelen on March 31, 2006, at 13:13:57
In reply to Re: answer me someone please !!!, posted by Tepiaca on March 23, 2006, at 17:32:40
Hi Tepiaca:
My heart goes out to you. I do know what it feels like to be in this devastating depth of darkness and depression. It is so hard for others to understand, but not for those of us here. You have so many friends who care about you and can relate and are here to listen to what you are going through. To share their own experiences and offer suggestions. It is hard to be so disabled that just brushing our teeth and bathing is too much. I have been through all of this ........ the lack of appetite, no interest in anything, shutting ourselves away from family.........
Just getting through another hour can seem impossible. Yet, we do it and before we know it we have made it through to another day. The hard part is to have just finished yet another round of meds, that didn't work, to try yet again. I have just started three new meds again for the umpteenth time. We know that we have to wait from 2 - 8 weeks for the meds to work and this may seem like an eternity. Then we have to wait and see if it works.You are a fighter with a lot of courage, or you wouldn't still be here trying again. Nardil is an excellent drug for so many. I agree with others that you should not mix it with Parnate. Perhaps you could try some of the other suggestions. If you cannot do it alone, do you have one friend or family member who could help you?
Tepiaca, it takes a lot of guts to reach out like this and open yourself up. I would venture to say that you are helping others who are feeling like you do but are not capable of getting their feelings down. They are probably reading your post and do not feel so alone and helpless. Please keep writing and letting us know how you are doing.
I think it is a blessing that you have God in your life. Do you have any prayer lines that you can call? I know that, for me, when things are at their darkest in the middle of the night, these wonderful people are there to listen and to pray with you. Maybe you could find out if there are any prayer lines or any outreach lines that you can call, anytime when things may become unbearable.
Keep hanging on. Your friends are here to help you and listen and to care for and about you.
Bless you,
maryhelen
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