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Posted by merry on November 8, 2004, at 20:59:00
In reply to Re: Big Stomach:(, posted by rainy on November 8, 2004, at 18:54:49
Rainy, That woman was wrong and she owes you an apology. Your pdoc also has a problem that must be frustrating you and all this just adds to how you must be feeling. Try not to get all stressed out before you go to your appointment.
I know it would be easy to just go in there and just let her have it! That's what I would of done on the phone because I don't like to be unfairly accused. I have a Latin temper. But lately I've been very calm, so I don't how I would of responded now.Anyway, everything will be straighted out. And she will be made aware of her mistake and her face will be scarlet-red and her palms will sweat as she says how sorry she is for been such a stupid little meannie-head to you.
And as for you pdoc, I hope she also apologizes to you. She should learn from this and she should reprimand the receptionist and next time she makes any kind of these types of med. changes in the future she will handle it differently.
Sorry this happened to you.
merry
Posted by lorilu on November 8, 2004, at 23:22:58
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help?, posted by bridgey1128 on November 8, 2004, at 9:13:40
Lar- Thanks.
As for the questions as why do I take Topamax and why am I PLANNING to take Adderal (haven't been to the pharmacy yet), I'll try my best to explain. I took a SPECT Scan on my brain last year to determine if I was taking the right meds for anxiety/PTSD/OCD/depression...whatever... (I do not have the tests in front of me because I would obssess over them so I gave my copy back to my pdoc)but to the best of my knowledge the basal gangalia and anterior cingulate had extreme increased activity. My scan had a lot of red on it and that was not good. Topamax calms my brain down. Based on the other findings (temporal lobe I think) the doctor recommended Adderal to help with my symptoms of low motivation and internal preoccupation. Like, for example, the house is still a mess, and I am finally motivated enough to start cleaning it and I am wide awake at night even though I didn't take Provigil today. My body has kicked into stress mode. It now knows the party is tomorrow and theres no way with work tomorrow that I can get ready for the party without staying up really late and running around with my head cut off. See ya after tomorrow night. :) Unless I can't resist.
Lori
Posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 5:12:12
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help?, posted by lorilu on November 8, 2004, at 23:22:58
Talk about self-preoccupied--that's my middle name! Thanks for your support--as always, it helps.
I'm past anger, yours is refreshing, Kat and I cherish it, and the doctor did apologize on the phone in a tiny little voice. It was obvious that the office manager hadn't told her the entire story (I wonder how she approached the real culprit in this crime.)
The OM is about as mouthy as I am, I guess more so, Merry, and I think I'm scared to demand an apology, especially when I'm feeling "accused" of being intimidating. Jeeze.
Maybe take two provigil and a klonopin--I've been awake since 3 thinking about today. (I won't, Kat, I won't--joke). I'm hoping she won't be there. Now is that wuss-like or what? But you're right, she, the scolder, does owe me one. At this moment, I just want it to be 10:45 and over. By the way, welcome back!
Lori, when you were explaining about taking Topamax, you mentioned something about another med easing your self-something. I obviously can't remember what it was but rumination is a word that popped into my head. Is that what you're talking about?
What kind of side effects does this med have for you? We have different lables to carry and you have a scan to prove your diagnosis, but our symtoms sound so similar. (Just clean the baseboards and the bathroom/kitchen.)
And Kat. As a happy child of about 8 or 9 I used to hear symphonies in my head as I was falling asleep and the hypnopompic imagery I enjoyed was wonderful. Psychotic? Epileptic?
Med student hypochondria here?
I will be sorry to lose you from this board. I'm glad you're feeling better.
rainy
Posted by lorilu on November 9, 2004, at 8:39:08
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help?, posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 5:12:12
> Talk about self-preoccupied--that's my middle name! Thanks for your support--as always, it helps.
> I'm past anger, yours is refreshing, Kat and I cherish it, and the doctor did apologize on the phone in a tiny little voice. It was obvious that the office manager hadn't told her the entire story (I wonder how she approached the real culprit in this crime.)
>
> The OM is about as mouthy as I am, I guess more so, Merry, and I think I'm scared to demand an apology, especially when I'm feeling "accused" of being intimidating. Jeeze.
> Maybe take two provigil and a klonopin--I've been awake since 3 thinking about today. (I won't, Kat, I won't--joke). I'm hoping she won't be there. Now is that wuss-like or what? But you're right, she, the scolder, does owe me one. At this moment, I just want it to be 10:45 and over. By the way, welcome back!
>
> Lori, when you were explaining about taking Topamax, you mentioned something about another med easing your self-something. I obviously can't remember what it was but rumination is a word that popped into my head. Is that what you're talking about?
> What kind of side effects does this med have for you? We have different lables to carry and you have a scan to prove your diagnosis, but our symtoms sound so similar. (Just clean the baseboards and the bathroom/kitchen.)
>
> And Kat. As a happy child of about 8 or 9 I used to hear symphonies in my head as I was falling asleep and the hypnopompic imagery I enjoyed was wonderful. Psychotic? Epileptic?
> Med student hypochondria here?
> I will be sorry to lose you from this board. I'm glad you're feeling better.
> rainyGotta write fast :) Got the kitchen done and most of the house but have to get the kids off to school and couldn't resist taking a peek. Luckily I had to print something for school. I take 125 mg. with the 400 mg of Effexor to ease the constant worrying. The meds didn't work yesterday. If I would have just cleaned my house yesterday I wouldn't have been so grumpy, but instead I stay up to 2 and now I am still stressed because I have to buy the food, decorate... I am hoping the Adderal will focus me more. If I ever fill it. I loook forward to getting you and kats posts, too.
Lori
Posted by lorilu on November 9, 2004, at 8:40:58
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help?, posted by lorilu on November 9, 2004, at 8:39:08
> > Talk about self-preoccupied--that's my middle name! Thanks for your support--as always, it helps.
> > I'm past anger, yours is refreshing, Kat and I cherish it, and the doctor did apologize on the phone in a tiny little voice. It was obvious that the office manager hadn't told her the entire story (I wonder how she approached the real culprit in this crime.)
> >
> > The OM is about as mouthy as I am, I guess more so, Merry, and I think I'm scared to demand an apology, especially when I'm feeling "accused" of being intimidating. Jeeze.
> > Maybe take two provigil and a klonopin--I've been awake since 3 thinking about today. (I won't, Kat, I won't--joke). I'm hoping she won't be there. Now is that wuss-like or what? But you're right, she, the scolder, does owe me one. At this moment, I just want it to be 10:45 and over. By the way, welcome back!
> >
> > Lori, when you were explaining about taking Topamax, you mentioned something about another med easing your self-something. I obviously can't remember what it was but rumination is a word that popped into my head. Is that what you're talking about?
> > What kind of side effects does this med have for you? We have different lables to carry and you have a scan to prove your diagnosis, but our symtoms sound so similar. (Just clean the baseboards and the bathroom/kitchen.)
> >
> > And Kat. As a happy child of about 8 or 9 I used to hear symphonies in my head as I was falling asleep and the hypnopompic imagery I enjoyed was wonderful. Psychotic? Epileptic?
> > Med student hypochondria here?
> > I will be sorry to lose you from this board. I'm glad you're feeling better.
> > rainy
>
> Gotta write fast :) Got the kitchen done and most of the house but have to get the kids off to school and couldn't resist taking a peek. Luckily I had to print something for school. I take 125 mg. with the 400 mg of Effexor to ease the constant worrying. The meds didn't work yesterday. If I would have just cleaned my house yesterday I wouldn't have been so grumpy, but instead I stay up to 2 and now I am still stressed because I have to buy the food, decorate... I am hoping the Adderal will focus me more. If I ever fill it. I loook forward to getting you and kats posts, too.
> Lorioops
i take 125 of effexor and 400 of topamax, 200 of provigil
lori
Posted by iris2 on November 9, 2004, at 11:09:54
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help?, posted by lorilu on November 8, 2004, at 23:22:58
How did you get the brain scan? Did your pdoc prescribe it? I am interessted for the same reasons you talkked about. To see what is going on and perhaps have a better tool to prescribe.
Thanks,
irene
Posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 12:39:19
In reply to Re: Big Stomach:( » headachequeen, posted by iris2 on November 8, 2004, at 19:51:38
> I know ther is no such thing as "normal" which is why I put it in quotes. Unfortunately I have no doctor to talk about this stuff with. I am basically being mly own practitioner and my pdoc just writes the scripts I ask him to. It is not a good situaltion but I have not ben aable to find a doctor that would or could treat me.
>
> irene
How alone you must feel. I wish there were some way of helping bridge that gap and emptiness
kat
Posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 12:45:08
In reply to mean girl, posted by merry on November 8, 2004, at 20:59:00
> Rainy, That woman was wrong and she owes you an apology. Your pdoc also has a problem that must be frustrating you and all this just adds to how you must be feeling. Try not to get all stressed out before you go to your appointment.
>
> I know it would be easy to just go in there and just let her have it! That's what I would of done on the phone because I don't like to be unfairly accused. I have a Latin temper. But lately I've been very calm, so I don't how I would of responded now.
>
> Anyway, everything will be straighted out. And she will be made aware of her mistake and her face will be scarlet-red and her palms will sweat as she says how sorry she is for been such a stupid little meannie-head to you.
>
> And as for you pdoc, I hope she also apologizes to you. She should learn from this and she should reprimand the receptionist and next time she makes any kind of these types of med. changes in the future she will handle it differently.
>
> Sorry this happened to you.
>
> merryOh, merry, I too am seething about this... and it is one of the last of the racing brain thoughts I had before I crashed last night... those meds really work when I don't fight them <g>
Certainly both the doctor and the receptionist or secretary or whatever owe rainy an apology and it is overdue...
the doctor changed the prescription and should remember that... so she or he whatever owes the apology
and where does the employee get off reading rainy a lecture? it is none of the employee's business...
she certainly owes an apology and if she were my employee would be told off and told to apologise to rainy in my presence, once I had apologised to her...
rainy, when you go to your appointment, go calmly and with great deep breaths... and then explain for the sake of both of them that you did not change anything, the doctor made the changes for sake of expediency...
and insist on apologies...
and then calmly and ever so regally accept the apologies with the proviso that they think it over before flying off the handle at someone again...these people need to learn to think before operating mouth...
I am so hurt for you
kat and so angry
Posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 12:55:09
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help?, posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 5:12:12
> Talk about self-preoccupied--that's my middle name! Thanks for your support--as always, it helps.
> I'm past anger, yours is refreshing, Kat and I cherish it, and the doctor did apologize on the phone in a tiny little voice. It was obvious that the office manager hadn't told her the entire story (I wonder how she approached the real culprit in this crime.)
>
> The OM is about as mouthy as I am, I guess more so, Merry, and I think I'm scared to demand an apology, especially when I'm feeling "accused" of being intimidating. Jeeze.
> Maybe take two provigil and a klonopin--I've been awake since 3 thinking about today. (I won't, Kat, I won't--joke). I'm hoping she won't be there. Now is that wuss-like or what? But you're right, she, the scolder, does owe me one. At this moment, I just want it to be 10:45 and over. By the way, welcome back!
>
> Lori, when you were explaining about taking Topamax, you mentioned something about another med easing your self-something. I obviously can't remember what it was but rumination is a word that popped into my head. Is that what you're talking about?
> What kind of side effects does this med have for you? We have different lables to carry and you have a scan to prove your diagnosis, but our symtoms sound so similar. (Just clean the baseboards and the bathroom/kitchen.)
>
> And Kat. As a happy child of about 8 or 9 I used to hear symphonies in my head as I was falling asleep and the hypnopompic imagery I enjoyed was wonderful. Psychotic? Epileptic?
> Med student hypochondria here?
> I will be sorry to lose you from this board. I'm glad you're feeling better.
> rainyFirst, rainy, I am not leaving this board...
the epilepsy boards are simply not for me...
most of the posters are too well, let's not go there, or I will be leaving; Dr. Bob will kick me off <g>
I may not belong here, but I do take Topomax so I guess that qualifies me ???secondly, you are owed an apology and you go get it...
that is that.
and the control me wants to hear that you received it...
you did nothing of which to be ashamed or for which to be criticised...
and the office manager is not the person to criticise or scold anyway...
what a crock of garbage...
she needs to be replaced with someone more in tune with the patients' needs and with reality...rainy, my dear friend, you must not be afraid to go there and must not be afraid to inform her, head held high, looking her in the eye, assuming she can look YOU in the eye, that you think she probably would like to get something off her chest, an apology no doubt for a terrible mistake she made towards you...
and accept nothing less...
no, my dear, you don't get rid of me that easily...
I am not hypomanic; I am not depressed; but I shall be irritated if that intellectual hiccough does not apologise and do it properly
kat
and the doctor owes more than a wimpy apology in a tinny voice...
if he is a pdoc he should know that there is no room for wussiness in his profession
kat again
Posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 14:12:02
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help? » rainy, posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 12:55:09
Thank you guys. I'm over the anger--I was where you are now shortly after it happened, but it's been not quite two months and I can't hold to being mad that long. I don't know why I was so apprehensive and cringing--I didn't behave that way in the office, nor did I take the klonopin I sorely wanted to.
The receptionist nodded stiffly and then scurried into another room when she saw me standing at the window to announce myself. I alluded to the incident during the pdoc visit (where in she refused to rx serzone, even though it's legally available from Canada and is the only AD that's really worked for me) but Ms. pdoc didn't want to talk about it. She did assure me that there is no mention of it in my record (but did not have the letter I had requested absolving me of the crime on hand.) She admitted that she herself had altered the scripts and would be more careful in the future.
I practiced diplomatic skills and came out rather well, I must say. I did not tell her what I wanted. Instead, I said things like, What do you think of...? Are you comfortable with...? (No to that one) Isn't this a symptom of..? Not intimidating at all. Pdoc's voice got stronger and stronger.
As I paid, O.M. came back into the little room and I greeted her with a smile and a "How are you?" She took a deep breath and sort of glared and tight smiled at me and replied "Fine" as if her gall stones were hurting a lot. If I weren't a feminist, I might have thought that she is plagued by PMS today, or her meds need to be adjusted. My husband suggests that she's mad at me because I ratted on her to the doc and she got hollered at herself, although the latter is unlikey. Maybe she's on probation?
Anyway, it's over, I go back in a month to see how I'm doing on 400 mg of wellbutrin (start that dose today--this medicine woman doesn't mess around with gradual) 200 provigil, divided dose, 300 Topamax, and 100 trazodone.On another note: It occurs to me that we've been talking about body image and stuff. Some of you whose taste for soft drinks hasn't been killed by Topamax might be opting for the diet brew. Ralph Walton (my ex pdoc, btw, before we moved) has published some studies that you can read on medline, I think, that indicate aspartane makes depression worse.
Just a heads up. He didn't ask me so I didn't tell him that I was drinking pints of it every day. Maybe the ADs would have worked better had I known.
Thanks again for your support.
relieved rainy
Posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 14:27:13
In reply to wuss central and aspartane, posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 14:12:02
of course, part of that time I was drinking vodka with the diet gingerale, which also may have crimped the ADs just a little. Sheesh.
What, Kat, we're more interesting?
rainy
Posted by bridgey1128 on November 9, 2004, at 14:30:39
In reply to Re: can't stop thinking -Larry H. help? » rainy, posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 12:55:09
Lorilu..have you ever considered Concerta instead of the Adderall? That just worries me. There is just so much negativity around that drug. Concerta is just long lasting Ritalin, pretty much. I am still confused as to why you need something to calm you down but you need a stimulant? Are you ADHD? SOmetimes I guess I think we just all need to wipe our slates clean and start over because our meds have been mixing so much we have no idea how they have been affecting us or each others effectiveness. You know what I mean? Thanks to you guys I started taking a potassium/magnesium supplement. I guess I hadn't really thought about how much I actually needed one until I looked it up online. Most people are walking around deficient and don't realize it. I didn't! Anyway, hopefully after this week...ahem...that sort of week, I will start losing more weight. I had lost 3lbs and gained back 2 but I wasn't really surprised. I always suddenly retain water on the first day. Of course, that Pumpkin Pie frostie thing from Dairy Queen last night didn't help..hehe. OH WHY OH WHY DID THEY HAVE TO COME OUT WITH THAT!!! Alas...a weakness...
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 9, 2004, at 14:38:50
In reply to wuss central and aspartane, posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 14:12:02
> Ralph Walton (my ex pdoc, btw, before we moved) has published some studies that you can read on medline, I think, that indicate aspartane makes depression worse.
> Just a heads up. He didn't ask me so I didn't tell him that I was drinking pints of it every day. Maybe the ADs would have worked better had I known.
> Thanks again for your support.
> relieved rainyI think Walton would have wanted to know that. Just a guess.
For those interested in seeing the type of symptoms reported in aspartame-sensitive depressives, see the full text link. The abstract is below that.
Lar
http://www.mindfully.org/Health/Aspartame-Adverse-Reactions-1993.htm
Biol Psychiatry. 1993 Jul 1-15;34(1-2):13-7.
Adverse reactions to aspartame: double-blind challenge in patients from a vulnerable population.
Walton RG, Hudak R, Green-Waite RJ.
Department of Psychiatry, Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine, Youngstown.
This study was designed to ascertain whether individuals with mood disorders are particularly vulnerable to adverse effects of aspartame. Although the protocol required the recruitment of 40 patients with unipolar depression and a similar number of individuals without a psychiatric history, the project was halted by the Institutional Review Board after a total of 13 individuals had completed the study because of the severity of reactions within the group of patients with a history of depression. In a crossover design, subjects received aspartame 30 mg/kg/day or placebo for 7 days. Despite the small n, there was a significant difference between aspartame and placebo in number and severity of symptoms for patients with a history of depression, whereas for individuals without such a history there was not. We conclude that individuals with mood disorders are particularly sensitive to this artificial sweetener and its use in this population should be discouraged.
Posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 14:54:30
In reply to Re: wuss central and aspartane » rainy, posted by Larry Hoover on November 9, 2004, at 14:38:50
He knew about the alcohol, just not the mixer. As to the former he said, "Stop doing that," and I said, "I want to," which was the absolute truth. I had no idea about the aspartame even though a friend was one of the participants in one of his studies. It just didn't compute. Even now it doesn't. Hello??
Luckily, I drink very little of either beverage certainly no hard stuff, but a swig of gingerale and OJ is hard to beat on a hot day.
Thanks for your back up--that bit about NEOUCOM makes me homesick. I was a "simulated patient" for the medical school for a number of years.
rainy
Posted by bridgey1128 on November 9, 2004, at 16:36:30
In reply to Re: wuss central and aspartane » rainy, posted by Larry Hoover on November 9, 2004, at 14:38:50
Interesting. Diet drinks have never made me depressed I can honestly say, but I have to avoid them in great quantities for another reason. My body treats artificial sweeteners like real sugar. Whereas it may not treat it as the same AMOUT of real sugar it still treats it as I am drinking sugar. I have noticed that when I drink diet drinks and still drink water my weight loss still slows and I have even gained. That is why I try and stick to water. I also notice that when I drink soft drinks (diet), I don't drink regular ones unless I am absolutely parched and there is nothing else, I am not as thirsty and don't drink as much during the day. Then I tend to retain water and get swollen. It's like it backs up. My body needs lots of water to function. I guess thats why I thought I probably needed a potassium/magnesium supplement. Anyway, That study was quite interesting but I can honestly say I don't believe a Diet Coke ever made me sad. :)
Posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 20:44:15
In reply to Re: wuss central and aspartane » rainy, posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 14:27:13
> of course, part of that time I was drinking vodka with the diet gingerale, which also may have crimped the ADs just a little. Sheesh.
> What, Kat, we're more interesting?
> rainyOh, rainy, being more interesting is only half of it!!!!!!!
The couple of places I have found have been either totally clinical and cold and technical or inhabited with people who were born with broomsticks stuck in very uncomfortable (*I* think) places...
The one seemed inhabited by people who were interested in information for third parties and no one seems at all supportive or interested in anyone but the great and all expansive MEHere on the topomax board there is so much information and support and warmth...
how on earth could I settle for less?And how could I leave wondering how each of these people who has come to mean so much is managing???
not a chance!
kat
Posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 20:48:34
In reply to wuss central and aspartane, posted by rainy on November 9, 2004, at 14:12:02
> Thank you guys. I'm over the anger--I was where you are now shortly after it happened, but it's been not quite two months and I can't hold to being mad that long. I don't know why I was so apprehensive and cringing--I didn't behave that way in the office, nor did I take the klonopin I sorely wanted to.
> The receptionist nodded stiffly and then scurried into another room when she saw me standing at the window to announce myself. I alluded to the incident during the pdoc visit (where in she refused to rx serzone, even though it's legally available from Canada and is the only AD that's really worked for me) but Ms. pdoc didn't want to talk about it. She did assure me that there is no mention of it in my record (but did not have the letter I had requested absolving me of the crime on hand.) She admitted that she herself had altered the scripts and would be more careful in the future.
> I practiced diplomatic skills and came out rather well, I must say. I did not tell her what I wanted. Instead, I said things like, What do you think of...? Are you comfortable with...? (No to that one) Isn't this a symptom of..? Not intimidating at all. Pdoc's voice got stronger and stronger.
> As I paid, O.M. came back into the little room and I greeted her with a smile and a "How are you?" She took a deep breath and sort of glared and tight smiled at me and replied "Fine" as if her gall stones were hurting a lot. If I weren't a feminist, I might have thought that she is plagued by PMS today, or her meds need to be adjusted. My husband suggests that she's mad at me because I ratted on her to the doc and she got hollered at herself, although the latter is unlikey. Maybe she's on probation?
> Anyway, it's over, I go back in a month to see how I'm doing on 400 mg of wellbutrin (start that dose today--this medicine woman doesn't mess around with gradual) 200 provigil, divided dose, 300 Topamax, and 100 trazodone.
>
> On another note: It occurs to me that we've been talking about body image and stuff. Some of you whose taste for soft drinks hasn't been killed by Topamax might be opting for the diet brew. Ralph Walton (my ex pdoc, btw, before we moved) has published some studies that you can read on medline, I think, that indicate aspartane makes depression worse.
> Just a heads up. He didn't ask me so I didn't tell him that I was drinking pints of it every day. Maybe the ADs would have worked better had I known.
> Thanks again for your support.
> relieved rainy
Wow! you managed to hang in for two months...
I stand in awe...
you are one self-controlled gal and I am really impressed...kat
Posted by FionaJ on November 10, 2004, at 4:29:28
In reply to Re: wuss central and aspartane » rainy, posted by Larry Hoover on November 9, 2004, at 14:38:50
You guys just keep on overwhelming me with the amount of info I get from following this site. I'mm still new, so i find myself slow in responding to all the interesting and new info about Topamax and mood disorders. Hopfully I'll get around in good time.
Posted by rainy on November 10, 2004, at 7:17:10
In reply to Re: wuss central and aspartane » rainy, posted by headachequeen on November 9, 2004, at 20:48:34
Well, Kat, I have brown hair. I wished for a little of the red head gene yesterday, but again-I don't stay mad very long, ever. It takes too much energy. Righteous anger can be very energizing, though.
About hair. You wrote you lost tons of your hair on tegretol. When it grew back, was it a different texture? I lost mine on Lamictal and it's grown back very curly and wiry--an elderly orphan annie look, shorn short.
FionaJ, you're doing fine--are you a red head? Your name sounds like you might be.
rainy
Posted by stresser on November 10, 2004, at 12:51:15
In reply to Re: wuss central and aspartane, posted by FionaJ on November 10, 2004, at 4:29:28
This is my second attempt at writing, because I got an entire post written and hit the wrong button, then somehow deleted it. I THINK. It may show up somewhere halfway written. What a day. I think I may go back on my welbutrin, because I do need an anti-depressant. Going off was stupid, and I should know better. SSRI's seem to kill my sex drive, what else is there that won't pack on the pounds?
Larry- I need a miracle drug, and would like to know what it is, and where I can get it. <G>
Rainy- You are one tough cookie, are you sure you don't have RED somewhere in your hair? If you don't, maybe you should put it in, it won't say in mine. (but might in yours, being brown to begin with.)
FionaJ- Nice to have you on the board, I'm pretty new also and still don't always know what I'm doing or saying. :) I'm not a red head, I'm a bronze blond with foiled highlights. I really don't know what my real color is anymore, dirty blond maybe? Some grey? Noooooo
Kat- You're back to your old self again!!! Nice to have you back. I feel secure again.
Bridgey- Where are you? Off singing somewhere, I'm sure? Broadway?
Iris2- How is your stomach? I hope you are feeling better.
Lorilu-I don't recall seeing you on the board much before, so I would like to say hello and welcome. I have a hard time keeping everyone straight, because we all have quite a bit going on in our lives. I try.....
I'm very sorry if I forgot anyone, my mind isn't the greatest at 42. -L
Posted by headachequeen on November 10, 2004, at 13:22:56
In reply to Re: wuss central and aspartane, posted by FionaJ on November 10, 2004, at 4:29:28
> You guys just keep on overwhelming me with the amount of info I get from following this site. I'mm still new, so i find myself slow in responding to all the interesting and new info about Topamax and mood disorders. Hopfully I'll get around in good time.
Welcome to our merry band, Fiona. We look forward to your input and to what we will learn from you
kat
Posted by headachequeen on November 10, 2004, at 13:31:39
In reply to response to headachequeen's last post, posted by rainy on November 10, 2004, at 7:17:10
> Well, Kat, I have brown hair. I wished for a little of the red head gene yesterday, but again-I don't stay mad very long, ever. It takes too much energy. Righteous anger can be very energizing, though.
>
> About hair. You wrote you lost tons of your hair on tegretol. When it grew back, was it a different texture? I lost mine on Lamictal and it's grown back very curly and wiry--an elderly orphan annie look, shorn short.
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> FionaJ, you're doing fine--are you a red head? Your name sounds like you might be.
> rainy
Rainy, I am Celtic and I hold a grudge.. forever it seems... I have to have that sense of having been satisfied... as my son says, she doesn't really get mad but she does get even...as for the hair, it grew back same as ever...
after the eye surgery it took ages to grow...
something unusual for my hair as it grows so fast I have to have it trimmed every three weeks since I chose to wear it short...but since this latest escapade something they gave me turned it into straw!!! I was complaining a week or so ago about it being too soft to hold the style no matter how much wax or putty I used and I was really getting annoyed, wondering what the problem was...
tegretol? topomax? something else? as this was a new problem...
suddenly my hair is so dry and coarse it is like the stubble left after a hay field is cut...
went to the hair stylist yesterday in desperation; she did not make me feel any better. The first thing she said was that I was too old to be playing with scissors and taking bits out of my hair I should leave that to the four-year-olds or words to that effect; the second thing was that my hair was like straw. What had happened to it...
well I don't know either but I expect her to fix it and I did not take scissors to my hair, but here and there were great big chunks missing...
someone had to have cut it to attach the electrodes???
and I was not happy...
and still am not... all they had to do was move it out of the way...at this point I am wondering what they gave me that affected it...
I know, I should simply say that I am glad to be alive with no lasting damage, but my hair!!!!!and now to learn that my regular doctor, a man I trust implicitly is leaving the area in a few months and as of yet there is no one coming to take over the practice...
so while I have a neurologist a hundred miles away and a nose and throat specialist a hundred miles in the other direction and an eye specialist a hundred miles away, I shall be without a doctor...
and it is another thing to worry about...
a situation I cannot control... that is frustrating in the extreme...
kat
Posted by iris2 on November 10, 2004, at 13:40:56
In reply to Re: response to headachequeen's last post » rainy, posted by headachequeen on November 10, 2004, at 13:31:39
Perhaps the medications are affectinf your hormones. That would certainly have an effect of making you rhair dry. I do not knwo if it is the mes themselves but I thought of hormones as a culprit to dry hair.
irene
Posted by headachequeen on November 10, 2004, at 13:52:03
In reply to I need my anti-depressant back, posted by stresser on November 10, 2004, at 12:51:15
> This is my second attempt at writing, because I got an entire post written and hit the wrong button, then somehow deleted it. I THINK. It may show up somewhere halfway written.
Oh good someone else does these things...
I have done this so often and with such bad timing... a whole chapter that just flowed together... felt so good about it... hit the wrong key and it is gone forever and has never come back...
somewhere in space is an entire children's story, the first of a series I want to put together for children to understand that it is all right to be unique and not to follow the crowd...
the second and fifth and seventh and so on are easy to write; they need a first to stand on as it were...
the first was murder to write...
finally managed to put together most of it...
and lost it...
it is on the computer I am told... but I cannot find it...
hit some key and pouf! it became a toadstool...all the anti-depressants in the world won't bring it back...
I have to learn to slow down...
this is another part of my epilepsy, something I thought was a symptom of my 'depression' and that had nothing to do with depression... it was a hint that no one linked to epilepsy because, being me, I had to choose to have this weird form ....
and we learned too late to save these lost bits of sheer genius LOLand again I am unable to recreate the lost bits...
-L, I was told this morning that we all have stress in our lives...
No kidding, says I...
I would never have guessed that (I have been told that stress can cause another serious t/c seizure)
Who woulda thunk that we all have stress in our lives??? I thought everyone sat on a silk cushion being served strawberries and cream and sewing fine seams and all that nursery rhyme stuff...
I was really angry... and creating more stress for myself LOL...
I told this mental midget that I knew many people who would love to live with the minor every day stresses to which she referred...
which outfit to wear to the office, what to prepare for dinner, where to go for the week-end, oh the list of stresses she listed for me were such banal little things...
did you know that choosing nail polish is a stress, ladies??????
well, not for me, as I am not allowed to wear it -- it clouds the issue of oxygen deprivation apparently... there is one stress I am saved...Now I do have the stress of which ear rings to wear... that is a major decision for me...
This person is a counsellor trying to help me learn to manage stress so that I can lower the stress levels in my life, thus preventing if possible repeats of last week...
with intellectual hiccoughs such as she, I am destined to have a t/c before our time expires...She has no sense of the real world...
I asked her if she has ever had to cope with an eating disorder and the stress of living with self-image problems? how about a child with bulimia or binging disorders? has she ever been diagnosed as being bipolar, take I or II, it didn't matter? and I just went on and on...
apparently her happy little life has never encountered these things...
so I said when she has encountered real stress I would consider her as being qualified to counsel me on dealing with and avoiding stress, in the mean time I had a therapy group to attend...
and came home to check this board...some times these people with their titles and letters after their names don't have the B.C.S. to tag along with the other letters and that is the most important degree, Bachelor of Common Sense.
Of course you are feeling depressed with all that you have happening in your life, -L... a daughter you love as much as life itself is worried about her weight and appearance and her binge eating...
and doesn't know if this med is helping...
and won't let you into her life enough to let you judge if it is helping...
you feel totally impotent... and no parent wants to feel as if there is nothing she can do to help her child... parents were created to help their children... especially mothers...
just ask mine... there she was, at eighty-plus years of age, barely able to walk, sitting on the floor cradling my head and talking to me the way she did when I had seizures as a child, smoothing my hair and forehead...
and she said afterward feeling as useless as a limp dishrag...
Oh I think you have every right to feel down and depressed, but you are also determined and a mother and going to pull M through this and yourself with her...
"I really don't know what my real color is anymore"
I think you are at least an honourary redhead...
you have to be to have hung in this long...
and I don't know what anti-depressant med is going to help, but I do know that the anti-depressant US is going to help...
we are here ... just lean on us at will
kat
Posted by MKB on November 10, 2004, at 13:54:28
In reply to Re: response to headachequeen's last post » rainy, posted by headachequeen on November 10, 2004, at 13:31:39
Your hair problems may be due to a thyroid disorder. It's easy to find out with a blood test.
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