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Posted by Else on July 17, 2001, at 8:19:48
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
> I have unipolar depression with painful flashbacks and OCD. I have tried:
>
> Lithium
> Divalproex Sodium
> Carbamazepine
> Gabapentin
> Lamotrigine
> Topiramate
> Verapamil
>
> Paroxetine
> Sertraline
> Venlafaxine
> Mirtazapine
> Buspirone
> Desipramine
> Clomipramine
> Tranylcypromine
> Selegiline
> Nefazodone
> Buproprion
> Maprotiline
>
> Olanzapine
> Risperidone
> Quietiapine
> Ziprasidone
>
> Pemoline
> Methylphenidate
> Dextroamphetamine
>
> Tramadol
> Naltrexone
>
> Ropinirole
> Pramipexole
> Bromocriptine
>
> Pindolol
> Thyroid Supplementation
>
> I'm going down to Mexico to get Reboxetine, in a last-ditch effort to avoid ECT. Somebody pray for me.Minor tranquilizers?
Could you have PTSD? (painful flashbacks and all?)
Posted by Else on July 17, 2001, at 8:21:45
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by Else on July 17, 2001, at 8:19:48
> > I have unipolar depression with painful flashbacks and OCD. I have tried:
> >
> > Lithium
> > Divalproex Sodium
> > Carbamazepine
> > Gabapentin
> > Lamotrigine
> > Topiramate
> > Verapamil
> >
> > Paroxetine
> > Sertraline
> > Venlafaxine
> > Mirtazapine
> > Buspirone
> > Desipramine
> > Clomipramine
> > Tranylcypromine
> > Selegiline
> > Nefazodone
> > Buproprion
> > Maprotiline
> >
> > Olanzapine
> > Risperidone
> > Quietiapine
> > Ziprasidone
> >
> > Pemoline
> > Methylphenidate
> > Dextroamphetamine
> >
> > Tramadol
> > Naltrexone
> >
> > Ropinirole
> > Pramipexole
> > Bromocriptine
> >
> > Pindolol
> > Thyroid Supplementation
> >
> > I'm going down to Mexico to get Reboxetine, in a last-ditch effort to avoid ECT. Somebody pray for me.
>
> Minor tranquilizers?
> Could you have PTSD? (painful flashbacks and all?)Never mind what I wrote. I'm sorry if it sounded pretentious.
Posted by Gerry S. on July 17, 2001, at 9:10:34
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
Sal:
I will pray for you. From what I can tell you are a wonderful caring person. God will take care of you.
Try to think positive,
Gerry.
Posted by v on July 17, 2001, at 11:16:52
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
sal... i just wanted to wish you well and hope you find what you are looking for soon... i don't pray very often but am certainly putting out good thoughts for you
v> I have unipolar depression with painful flashbacks and OCD. I have tried:
>
> Lithium
> Divalproex Sodium
> Carbamazepine
> Gabapentin
> Lamotrigine
> Topiramate
> Verapamil
>
> Paroxetine
> Sertraline
> Venlafaxine
> Mirtazapine
> Buspirone
> Desipramine
> Clomipramine
> Tranylcypromine
> Selegiline
> Nefazodone
> Buproprion
> Maprotiline
>
> Olanzapine
> Risperidone
> Quietiapine
> Ziprasidone
>
> Pemoline
> Methylphenidate
> Dextroamphetamine
>
> Tramadol
> Naltrexone
>
> Ropinirole
> Pramipexole
> Bromocriptine
>
> Pindolol
> Thyroid Supplementation
>
> I'm going down to Mexico to get Reboxetine, in a last-ditch effort to avoid ECT. Somebody pray for me.
Posted by Kingfish on July 17, 2001, at 11:16:55
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
Good luck.
- K.
Posted by sl on July 17, 2001, at 11:22:35
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by Willow on July 16, 2001, at 22:58:30
*blink* You went to my church as a child?
In wisconsin?
It's a little white church in the middle of nowhere, the sunday school is a separate building.
And at the front of the church, on the left, is a pictre of jesus with children in a meadow. Ohwait, it might be sheep too. I'm not sure anymore.Sounds very similar. :)
sl
> As a child I went to many different Sunday schools, the most memorable one being way out in the middle of nowhere. It was a white church. For some reason a picture of Jesus with children and lambs in a meadow sticks out in my mind when I think of this church.
> I haven't talked to Him in a long time, but tonight I'll thank Him for helping you out as you have helped many of us.
>
> BEST WISHES, on your journey!
> Weeping Willow
Posted by sl on July 17, 2001, at 11:31:08
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
> I'm going down to Mexico to get Reboxetine, in a last-ditch effort to avoid ECT. Somebody pray for me.
We're all praying for you in our own way, and I have faith that God hears even the oddest forms of prayer.
I could already tell you were going downhill lately and was trying to send you happy thoughts. :)sl
Posted by Mr.Scott on July 17, 2001, at 12:38:54
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
You have always been there for everyone on this board, always coming up with good links and suggestions. We are also here for you.
Also, I was surpised to hear you haven't used Klonopin. It has a pretty good anti-dread, Anti-psychological pain, Anti-OCD, antianxiety drug.
Keep us posted.
Mr.Scott
Posted by Willow on July 17, 2001, at 12:42:18
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself » Willow, posted by sl on July 17, 2001, at 11:22:35
> *blink* You went to my church as a child?
> In wisconsin?
> It's a little white church in the middle of nowhere, the sunday school is a separate building.
Our classes where in the basement, and we would go upstairs to sing or outside to play. I'm up in Northern Onatario, though I believe there may be some similarity to Wisconsin.> And at the front of the church, on the left, is a pictre of jesus with children in a meadow. Ohwait, it might be sheep too. I'm not sure anymore.
>
> Sounds very similar. :)
Sounds identical!! Do you know what denomination it was? Very nice people.Willow
Posted by mila on July 17, 2001, at 22:11:24
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
dear Jason,
I wish you relief from suffering and eventually a full recovery. Have a safe and succesful journey.
You are a good person. Thank you for everything.
mila.
Posted by Anna Laura on July 18, 2001, at 7:19:10
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
> I have unipolar depression with painful flashbacks and OCD. I have tried:
>
> Lithium
> Divalproex Sodium
> Carbamazepine
> Gabapentin
> Lamotrigine
> Topiramate
> Verapamil
>
> Paroxetine
> Sertraline
> Venlafaxine
> Mirtazapine
> Buspirone
> Desipramine
> Clomipramine
> Tranylcypromine
> Selegiline
> Nefazodone
> Buproprion
> Maprotiline
>
> Olanzapine
> Risperidone
> Quietiapine
> Ziprasidone
>
> Pemoline
> Methylphenidate
> Dextroamphetamine
>
> Tramadol
> Naltrexone
>
> Ropinirole
> Pramipexole
> Bromocriptine
>
> Pindolol
> Thyroid Supplementation
>
> I'm going down to Mexico to get Reboxetine, in a last-ditch effort to avoid ECT. Somebody pray for me.I'm sorry to hear about that; hope you'll get better soon.
Anna Laura
Posted by JohnL on July 18, 2001, at 18:47:22
In reply to Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 16, 2001, at 17:13:09
I indeed will pray for you.
If you are familiar with any of my posts, then you know which drugs I respect the most. I didn't see them on your list.
John
Posted by bob on July 18, 2001, at 19:07:23
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by JohnL on July 18, 2001, at 18:47:22
> I indeed will pray for you.
>
> If you are familiar with any of my posts, then you know which drugs I respect the most. I didn't see them on your list.
> JohnJohn:
Could you please tell me what drugs you "respect the most" that weren't on his list? Are they FDA approved drugs?
Bob
Posted by Elizabeth on July 18, 2001, at 20:59:08
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by bob on July 18, 2001, at 19:07:23
> Could you please tell me what drugs you "respect the most" that weren't on his list? Are they FDA approved drugs?
< g >
I'm not sure which ones he means, either. John???
-e
Posted by SalArmy4me on July 18, 2001, at 23:52:45
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by JohnL on July 18, 2001, at 18:47:22
The only viable drugs I can think of that are not on my list are amisulpride, tianeptine, adrafanil, moclobemide, and reboxetine.
> I indeed will pray for you.
>
> If you are familiar with any of my posts, then you know which drugs I respect the most. I didn't see them on your list.
> John
Posted by Cecilia on July 19, 2001, at 5:04:54
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself » bob, posted by Elizabeth on July 18, 2001, at 20:59:08
> > Could you please tell me what drugs you "respect the most" that weren't on his list? Are they FDA approved drugs?
>
> < g >
>
> I'm not sure which ones he means, either. John???
>
> -eI think he means the ones that have worked for him: antipsychotics and stimulants, especially Amisulpride, Adrafinil and Zyprexa. Unfortunately, they don`t work miracles for everyone. What I`ve Tried: Desipramine, Doxepin, Imipramine, Amitriptyline, Nortriptyline, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Luvox, Effexor, Wellbutrin, Remeron, Nardil, Parnate, Trazodone, St. John`s Wort, SAM-e, Anafranil, Serzone, Buspar, Clonazepam, Xanax, Temazepam, Ambien, Atenolol, Lithium, Neurontin, thyroid supplement, Ritalin, Dexedrine, Zyprexa, Reboxetine, Amisulpride and Adrafinil. No miracles.
Posted by Bob on July 19, 2001, at 9:34:02
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by Cecilia on July 19, 2001, at 5:04:54
> > > Could you please tell me what drugs you "respect the most" that weren't on his list? Are they FDA approved drugs?
> >
> > < g >
> >
> > I'm not sure which ones he means, either. John???
> >
> > -e
>
> I think he means the ones that have worked for him: antipsychotics and stimulants, especially Amisulpride, Adrafinil and Zyprexa. Unfortunately, they don`t work miracles for everyone. What I`ve Tried: Desipramine, Doxepin, Imipramine, Amitriptyline, Nortriptyline, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Luvox, Effexor, Wellbutrin, Remeron, Nardil, Parnate, Trazodone, St. John`s Wort, SAM-e, Anafranil, Serzone, Buspar, Clonazepam, Xanax, Temazepam, Ambien, Atenolol, Lithium, Neurontin, thyroid supplement, Ritalin, Dexedrine, Zyprexa, Reboxetine, Amisulpride and Adrafinil. No miracles.I asked my pdoc about adrafinil awhile back, and he wasn't familiar with it. Is it FDA approved???
Posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 12:56:57
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by Cecilia on July 19, 2001, at 5:04:54
> I think he means the ones that have worked for him: antipsychotics and stimulants, especially Amisulpride, Adrafinil and Zyprexa.
Amisulpride is a little weird because its effects are very dose-dependent: I think lower doses work for depression, while higher ones are needed for an antipsychotic effect.
> Unfortunately, they don`t work miracles for everyone.
Of course not. But amisulpride is one of the many drugs we don't have in the US that I think would be worth having.
> What I`ve Tried: Desipramine, Doxepin, Imipramine, Amitriptyline, Nortriptyline, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Luvox,
God, so many tricyclics and SSRIs!
> No miracles.
I don't believe in miracles. But did any of them help at *all*?
-elizabeth
Posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 12:58:13
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by Bob on July 19, 2001, at 9:34:02
> I asked my pdoc about adrafinil awhile back, and he wasn't familiar with it. Is it FDA approved???
No, you'd have to get it from overseas. The somewhat-similar modafinil (Provigil) is, however. (That's one that I forgot to mention on my list.)
-elizabeth
Posted by Bob on July 19, 2001, at 13:28:55
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself » Bob, posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 12:58:13
> > I asked my pdoc about adrafinil awhile back, and he wasn't familiar with it. Is it FDA approved???
>
> No, you'd have to get it from overseas. The somewhat-similar modafinil (Provigil) is, however. (That's one that I forgot to mention on my list.)
>
> -elizabethAre there really that many people getting these things from overseas. It scares me to try something like that, because if you got used to the drug and then the supply got cut off - it seems like that would be a VERY bad thing. It seems like a precarious situation. I sometimes hate how conservative the FDA is, but I guess if I sustained permanent bodily damage due to an approved drug, I wouldn't be happy with them either.
Posted by JohnL on July 19, 2001, at 16:33:35
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by SalArmy4me on July 18, 2001, at 23:52:45
> The only viable drugs I can think of that are not on my list are amisulpride, tianeptine, adrafanil, moclobemide, and reboxetine.
Bingo! Now you're on the right track. :-)
Based on all your posts I have read, I would place a bet that your best odds for success are with Amisulpride, or Amisulpride+Adrafinil combo. I hate to admit it, but Reboxetine and Moclobemide both have disappointed most people who have tried them, here at this board anyway.
John
Posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 23:36:19
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself, posted by Bob on July 19, 2001, at 13:28:55
> Are there really that many people getting these things from overseas.
Yes, I think so. There are legal channels you can go through (with your doctor's assistance) to get drugs that aren't available here, but I think there's a lot of red tape involved. Most common non-controlled drugs are probably easy to get; I'm not so clear about controlled ones.
> I sometimes hate how conservative the FDA is, but I guess if I sustained permanent bodily damage due to an approved drug, I wouldn't be happy with them either.
I once heard a joke about the FDA: they require that drugs be tested on animals and Europeans before they can be tested on Americans. (But they don't actually let drug companies use data acquired from testing drugs outside of the US.)
-elizabeth
Posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 23:37:08
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself...SalArmy4me, posted by JohnL on July 19, 2001, at 16:33:35
> Based on all your posts I have read, I would place a bet that your best odds for success are with Amisulpride, or Amisulpride+Adrafinil combo.
So, can you tell us how to go about importing these exotic medications?
-elizabeth
Posted by SalArmy4me on July 21, 2001, at 23:06:41
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself...SalArmy4me » JohnL, posted by Elizabeth on July 19, 2001, at 23:37:08
JohnL just wants to be a non-conformist in his selection of meds.
> > Based on all your posts I have read, I would place a bet that your best odds for success are with Amisulpride, or Amisulpride+Adrafinil combo.
>
> So, can you tell us how to go about importing these exotic medications?
>
> -elizabeth
Posted by Elizabeth on July 22, 2001, at 13:16:11
In reply to Re: Let me introduce myself...SalArmy4me » Elizabeth, posted by SalArmy4me on July 21, 2001, at 23:06:41
> JohnL just wants to be a non-conformist in his selection of meds.
That's a derisive way of putting it. I'm willing to take his word that he's found relief from drugs that aren't available in the US. The FDA makes it very difficult to get new drugs approved (probably influenced in part by pressure from some drug companies which don't want competition), and there's just about no incentive to try to get a drug approved after its patent has expired.
-elizabeth
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