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Posted by ed_uk on March 20, 2005, at 14:59:00
In reply to im feeling hopeless, i hate my life and my health, posted by Jeroen on March 20, 2005, at 14:40:51
She has found some information for you................
Here are three websites where Jereon can find the supplement he is interested in (Lecithin I believe).
I have also included the links to the shipping policies so he can confirm if they ship to where he lives.
http://www.kalyx.com/store/proddetail.cfm/ItemID/40961.0/CategoryID/6000.0/SubCatID/2190.0/file.htm
for shipping policies for above site:
http://www.kalyx.com/catalog/shipping.htm
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/query.jhtml;$sessionid$4MCBRBYILRCDCCQUAOWSFEQKCQB1AGXK?q=lecithin&intsource=main&x=8&y=9
for shipping policies for above site:
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/popups/shipping_rates_policies.htm
http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?follow-pro=1&vwcatalog=iherb&catalog=iherb&query=lecithin
Shipping policies for above site:
http://www.iherb.com/international.html
Posted by Phillipa on March 20, 2005, at 16:08:39
In reply to Re: TamaraJ is kind..., posted by ed_uk on March 20, 2005, at 14:59:00
Good Job Ed! Now Jeroen you see people do care and they want to help you. Did you get the message above and go to the websites? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on March 20, 2005, at 16:46:43
In reply to Re: TamaraJ is kind... » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on March 20, 2005, at 16:08:39
thanks a lot tamara!! im checking your links out
Posted by Jeroen on March 20, 2005, at 16:54:55
In reply to Re: TamaraJ is kind..., posted by ed_uk on March 20, 2005, at 14:59:00
i found another one
Posted by TamaraJ on March 20, 2005, at 18:26:41
In reply to Re: TamaraJ is kind..., posted by Jeroen on March 20, 2005, at 16:46:43
You are very welcome :-) I hope you have some luck ordering from one of those sites or the other site you have identified. Good luck.
All the best,
Tamara
> thanks a lot tamara!! im checking your links out
Posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 10:59:34
In reply to Re: TamaraJ is kind... » Jeroen, posted by TamaraJ on March 20, 2005, at 18:26:41
hi ed, will this work? is it true?
http://www.prozactruth.com/tics.htmi ordered yesterday from KosherVitamins.Com
Posted by ed_uk on March 21, 2005, at 15:20:31
In reply to TO ED UK, posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 10:59:34
Bonsoir Jeroen!
>will this work?
I don't know J, be sure to give it a good trial though.
What medication are you taking atm? Are you on Zyprexa?
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 15:46:52
In reply to Re: To J, posted by ed_uk on March 21, 2005, at 15:20:31
im on nothing especially not zyprexa, 10 kilos overweig
i was planning for sipralexa but will it interfear with the Lecithin, vitamin B complex, & folic acid ?i need your expertise on this one...
Posted by ed_uk on March 21, 2005, at 16:03:30
In reply to Re: To J, posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 15:46:52
Hi J,
>i was planning for sipralexa but will it interfear with the Lecithin, vitamin B complex, & folic acid ?
No, I don't think so. I'm at bit worried about you going back on Sipralexa (Lexapro) though, why not try another antidepressant? Sipralexa seemed to cause some strange side effects before. I think you should ask your pdoc for advice on which other antidepressants you could try, I'm not sure which antidepressants are available in Belgium.
Did you prefer Prozac or Sipralexa?
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 16:12:45
In reply to Re: To J, posted by ed_uk on March 21, 2005, at 16:03:30
prozac didnt gave me withdrawal side effects, sipralexa does give me nightmare withdrawal, brain zaps after 2 weeks its gone
but prozac gave me upset stumach and had to quit it
Posted by Phillipa on March 21, 2005, at 17:23:48
In reply to Re: To J, posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 16:12:45
Jeroen, why are you going back and forth on different meds? It sounds like you're not sticking with anything. Fodnly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 18:33:48
In reply to Re: To J » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on March 21, 2005, at 17:23:48
no i still plan on taking zyprexa, but i need to loose 10 kilos and the sipralexa once allowed me to loose kilos in a fast way, must be the energy willpower this medicine gives me to hold onto my diet
prozac also gave me willpower to keep a hold on things
Posted by ed_uk on March 22, 2005, at 9:10:37
In reply to Re: To J, posted by Jeroen on March 21, 2005, at 18:33:48
Hi J,
SSRIs like Sipralexa and Prozac often cause weight loss in the short term, they tend to cause weight gain in the long run though!
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 11:39:52
In reply to Re: To J » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on March 22, 2005, at 9:10:37
i found something
Dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE) is a natural choline precursor. Although some preliminary data suggested that DMAE could decrease TD symptoms,16 most studies show that DMAE is no more effective than placebo for TD.17
ESPECIALLY THIS ONE!!! READ IT ED!!!One doctor has found that administering the trace mineral manganese (15 mg per day) can prevent the development of TD and that higher amounts (up to 60 mg per day) can reverse TD that has already developed.18 Other researchers have reported similar improvements with manganese.19 20
Several people have experienced an improvement in TD while taking evening primrose oil (EPO).21 In a double-blind study, however, supplementing with EPO (12 capsules per day) resulted only in a minor, clinically insignificant improvement.22
Posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 11:45:10
In reply to Re: To J, posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 11:39:52
what on earth is manganese?
if this lecathin treatment fails ill do manganese? it sais can reverse well lets say in some cases
Posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 11:50:29
In reply to Re: To J, posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 11:39:52
i found manga
http://www.zooscape.com/cgi-bin/maitred/GreenCanyon/questp100437/jornada27650854
is it this one?
Posted by ed_uk on March 23, 2005, at 15:48:00
In reply to Re: To J, posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 11:50:29
Hi J,
I don't know what a safe dose of manganese is. I think we need to ask Larry Hoover what a safe dose is.
Ed.
PS. Manganese is a mineral.
Posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 17:08:33
In reply to Re: To J- Manganese, posted by ed_uk on March 23, 2005, at 15:48:00
yes
Posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 20:02:41
In reply to Re: To J- Manganese, posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 17:08:33
im on nothing atm, when i take
http://www.prozactruth.com/tics.htmthose herbs to increase lecithin, can i start zyprexa?
can they both interfear? im scared what if that thing stops the eye muscle stuff, and zyprexa works at the same time stopping those ticks..
i also will take sipralexa with the zyprexa to loose some weight
Posted by ed_uk on March 24, 2005, at 12:49:12
In reply to to ed uk, need some advice, posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 20:02:41
Hi J!
I think it would be fine to take lecithin and Zyprexa together, I don't know of any interaction.
>those herbs
What herbs?
Ed.
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 24, 2005, at 13:07:06
In reply to Re: To J- Manganese, posted by ed_uk on March 23, 2005, at 15:48:00
> Hi J,
>
> I don't know what a safe dose of manganese is. I think we need to ask Larry Hoover what a safe dose is.
>
> Ed.
>
> PS. Manganese is a mineral.Well, I stumbled on this thread by accident. My mind-reading abilities are unreliable. ;-)
The UL (Upper Limit) for manganese is set at 11 mg/day. I haven't studied this mineral to know what is involved in restricting safe intake to that level, but exceeding it should probably be done on the advice of, and with supervision by, a medical professional.
Lar
Posted by Jeroen on March 24, 2005, at 13:18:35
In reply to Re: To J, posted by Jeroen on March 23, 2005, at 11:39:52
i cant stop thinking about this data. i want to try it if nothing has helped. what can happen when i take 60 mg?
One doctor has found that administering the trace mineral manganese (15 mg per day) can prevent the development of TD and that higher amounts (up to 60 mg per day) can reverse TD that has already developed.
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 24, 2005, at 14:58:37
In reply to reverse tardive dyskinesa upto 60 mg, posted by Jeroen on March 24, 2005, at 13:18:35
> i cant stop thinking about this data. i want to try it if nothing has helped. what can happen when i take 60 mg?
I'll check that out and get back to you. I can't promise it'll be today, though.
Lar
Posted by Jeroen on March 24, 2005, at 15:33:12
In reply to Re: reverse tardive dyskinesa upto 60 mg » Jeroen, posted by Larry Hoover on March 24, 2005, at 14:58:37
thanks for your help and time!
Posted by Phillipa on March 24, 2005, at 16:41:02
In reply to to larry hoover, posted by Jeroen on March 24, 2005, at 15:33:12
Hi Jeroen, You seem much better. You are looking into ways to reverse your symptoms. See you have concentration and you seem to be very smart. Fondly, Phillipa
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