Psycho-Babble Social Thread 594214

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Oh dear, here I go again :-) (babbling on and on)

Posted by Deneb on January 1, 2006, at 22:42:13

I love Dr. Bob. (not in a romantic way of course).

I'm going to get help and do really well in school so I can tell Dr. Bob at the Babble Party that I got straight A's.

I know he values academic success, (since he's been through so much schooling himself).

I wish I could be like Dr. Bob. (I don't want to be an M.D. though...too much interaction with people)

I wish I could be more successful than Dr. Bob. I wish I could be a biologist, maybe a plant biologist...and travel the world looking for medicinal plants.

I'm afraid I've messed up this life...which is why I keep thinking of offing myself. I need to start over.

I want to be a somebody...

I want to be special.

I want things to happen. I want exciting things to happen. I wish I weren't so afraid of everything.

The Babble Party will be exciting! I'm so looking forward to it. If we go to a bar or something, I'll try different drinks. I've only been to a bar once and I had one peach something or other. I heard somewhere that Dr. B likes to drink. ;-) I'll drink whatever Dr. Bob drinks. I hope I won't have a seizure by mixing meds and alcohol...

Is that T-shirt thing still going through? I want to buy one and have everyone sign it.

I'm going to try to be a grown-up on the trip. I'm going to have to navigate the city all by myself. I'm going to order my own food and everything.

I wonder if Dr. Bob reads my posts? He probably doesn't really. Maybe he reads them, but doesn't really "read" them if you know what I mean. He just checks them for civility.

I wonder if Dr. Bob knows who I am? I wonder if he knows that there's a poster named "Deneb".

I wonder why I tell you guys everything? Maybe I want someone in cyberspace to hear me. Ooooh, my thoughts are floating out there... :-)

I'm immortal.

I wonder what people will think if I die? I wonder if people here will be sad. Will Dr. Bob be sad?

I wonder if there will ever be someone else like me here?

I should get back in touch with my astronomy club. I haven't seen them in a year. I miss camping out.

Must get straight A's this semester. Must prove myself.

If I get A's, I'll be happy. I just know it. I'll get my confidence back.

Deneb

 

Re: Oh dear, here I go again :-) (babbling on and on) » Deneb

Posted by JenStar on January 2, 2006, at 0:04:10

In reply to Oh dear, here I go again :-) (babbling on and on), posted by Deneb on January 1, 2006, at 22:42:13

Deneb, there is not, nor will there probably ever be anyone just like you here. You're unique. :)

yes, I think many of us would be sad if you died. I would. But why make people sad? We'd also be happy if you got better, stayed here, etc. And YOU'D be happier, too. I don't think death is akin to starting over...it's not like a 'second chance.' If you want a second chance, you have to make it yourself in life. (And I hate to say this...but...all of us are temporary, and when we die, we will be eventually forgotten. To postpone that -- live as long as you can!!!!)

I know it sometimes seems that people only respond to negative posts or negative thoughts, but positive people have HUGE effects on me/us too! (Even if we don't always say so!)

For example, I think I've really learned a lot from Dinah, GG, Orchid and countless other posters, who write about their happy times and successes in addition to their sad times & struggles. I might not always respond to their good news, but if I read it, I feel happy for them.

I think the babble party will be interesting, but possibly not as exciting as you describe. I think people will be a bit cautious to meet each other, perhaps a bit withdrawn at first. I'm not sure people will be very party-hearty-ish. Especially since we have a wide range of ages and backgrounds & stuff.

The plant-travel thing sounds quite cool. What other careers have you thought about?

take care,
JenStar

 

Re: here I go again :-) » Deneb

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 0:37:12

In reply to Oh dear, here I go again :-) (babbling on and on), posted by Deneb on January 1, 2006, at 22:42:13

> I wish I could be a biologist, maybe a plant biologist...and travel the world looking for medicinal plants.

I looked very hard into doing that. I wanted to be an ethnobotanical biochemist.

Lar

 

So why aren't you? (nm) » Larry Hoover

Posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 0:41:33

In reply to Re: here I go again :-) » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 0:37:12

 

Re: So why aren't you? » crazy teresa

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 16:09:25

In reply to So why aren't you? (nm) » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 0:41:33

Hmmmm. Humpty Dumpty.

 

Re: So why aren't you? » Larry Hoover

Posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 16:53:21

In reply to Re: So why aren't you? » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 16:09:25

> Hmmmm. Humpty Dumpty.

:(

 

So let's bulldoze the wall and horses and men,

Posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:17:09

In reply to Re: So why aren't you? » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 16:09:25

and put Larry Hoover together again!

And enroll him in a couple of classes.

 

What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover

Posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20

In reply to Re: here I go again :-) » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 0:37:12

It sounds so very mysterious...

 

Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist?

Posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2006, at 19:35:40

In reply to What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20

What is it? Fondly,Phillipa

 

ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess?

Posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 21:35:23

In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist?, posted by Phillipa on January 2, 2006, at 19:35:40

> What is it? Fondly,Phillipa


good question...

lets see... a biochemist studies living organisms and ethno is people botanical is plants....

so lets see how close I can get lol
Is it someone who studies the processes of living organisms (plants and people)? maybe it has a drug componenet? Is it the study of drugs/chemicals on living organisms?
Am I close?

 

Show off! (nm) » LegWarmers

Posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 22:06:45

In reply to ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess?, posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 21:35:23

 

nuh uh!!!! » crazy teresa

Posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 22:23:29

In reply to Show off! (nm) » LegWarmers, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 22:06:45

ROFLMAO

I really dont know lol

 

Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa

Posted by JenStar on January 2, 2006, at 23:07:34

In reply to What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20

I think it sound awesome! She could investigate the medicines used by tribal people, by the Chinese, the Japanese, the Mexicans, and see if there are things that could be used mainstream. Many cultures and peoples have used natural remedies for centuries, and these things are often discounted by the big drug and big pharma companies. At least, that's what I THINK she might do. Deneb, is that close?
JenStar

 

Re: So let's bulldoze the wall and horses and men, » crazy teresa

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 23:51:09

In reply to So let's bulldoze the wall and horses and men,, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:17:09

> and put Larry Hoover together again!

You're welcome to try. Maybe we could work it into your experimentation required for proper categorization, above?

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20060102/msgs/594435.html

> And enroll him in a couple of classes.

What classes do you think I need? <very tongue-in-cheek>

Lar

 

Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:02:58

In reply to What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 2, 2006, at 18:19:20

> It sounds so very mysterious...

Once you hear it, it won't sound so mysterious.

Ethnobotany is the study of the use of plants by different cultures. Often, that is further restricted to medicinal use, i.e. folk medicine.

To incorporate the biochemical aspect, I wanted to look into finding something about the active ingredients, their structures, and biochemical effects in our bodies.

Truthfully, one could spend one's life studying a single plant species in some depth.

Once upon a time, 80% of all your drugs originated in plants. Now, it's dropped to maybe 50%. They are designing new substances on computers, etc.

The anti-bird flu drug, Theraflu, is made from a fairly rare plant material. With the burgeoning world demand for stockpiles of the antiviral, China has virtually extirpated the parent plant. Prices for the raw extracts have increased 20-fold. Anyway, I digress.

That what I wanted to get into, in the early 90's. Late 90's, major pharmaceutical companies funded extensive forays into various cultures, and bought up the rights to their knowledge. In some limited cases, the folk medicine has been further studied, but mostly it was to lock it up. To keep others from studying these plants (patented), publishing (same), profiting from, etc. To turn "common knowledge" into proprietary information.

The indiginous peoples got little in return. Mostly, they didn't even understand what the contracts were about.

Meanwhile, deforestation, and rapid climate change, and all that, are wiping out entire ecosystems, and all the mysteries and riches they once contained.

There you have it.

Lar

 

Re: ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess? » LegWarmers

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:03:54

In reply to ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess?, posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 21:35:23

> > What is it? Fondly,Phillipa
>
>
> good question...
>
> lets see... a biochemist studies living organisms and ethno is people botanical is plants....
>
> so lets see how close I can get lol
> Is it someone who studies the processes of living organisms (plants and people)? maybe it has a drug componenet? Is it the study of drugs/chemicals on living organisms?
> Am I close?

Yes, that sounds about right.

Lar

 

Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » JenStar

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:05:11

In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa, posted by JenStar on January 2, 2006, at 23:07:34

> I think it sound awesome! She could investigate the medicines used by tribal people, by the Chinese, the Japanese, the Mexicans, and see if there are things that could be used mainstream. Many cultures and peoples have used natural remedies for centuries, and these things are often discounted by the big drug and big pharma companies. At least, that's what I THINK she might do. Deneb, is that close?
> JenStar

You're right on target, but for key detail. Big pharma hasn't discounted these herbs, etc. They bought the rights, and they're sitting on them.

Lar

 

Classes for Lar.

Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:28:06

In reply to Re: So let's bulldoze the wall and horses and men, » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 23:51:09

Obviously, you and your tongue would be subject to extensive preliminary testing before enrollment in the program. Only then could I exhaustedly determine how to properly test you, in order to establish how efficiently you could be utilized in my own personal testing of said categories.

 

Told ya! (nm) » LegWarmers

Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:36:55

In reply to nuh uh!!!! » crazy teresa, posted by LegWarmers on January 2, 2006, at 22:23:29

 

Re: as an ethnobotanical biochemist » Larry Hoover

Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:46:35

In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:02:58

So you'd have to work for a greedy corporation. But you could still do it! You're too smart to not do it.

(Work your way up to a hostile take over so you could set the plants and info free, and change the name of the greedy corporation to Lar's Psychoceuticals, where of course, all testing would be handled by me.)

 

Never mind, Lar.

Posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 1:01:56

In reply to Re: as an ethnobotanical biochemist » Larry Hoover, posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:46:35

After scrolling down, I can see you're changing your new profession to gynecology!

 

Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » Larry Hoover

Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 8:55:49

In reply to Re: What would you do as an ethnobotanical biochemist? » crazy teresa, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:02:58

> > It sounds so very mysterious...
>
> Once you hear it, it won't sound so mysterious.
>
> Ethnobotany is the study of the use of plants by different cultures. Often, that is further restricted to medicinal use, i.e. folk medicine.
>
> To incorporate the biochemical aspect, I wanted to look into finding something about the active ingredients, their structures, and biochemical effects in our bodies.
>
> Truthfully, one could spend one's life studying a single plant species in some depth.
>
> Once upon a time, 80% of all your drugs originated in plants. Now, it's dropped to maybe 50%. They are designing new substances on computers, etc.
>
> The anti-bird flu drug, Theraflu, is made from a fairly rare plant material. With the burgeoning world demand for stockpiles of the antiviral, China has virtually extirpated the parent plant. Prices for the raw extracts have increased 20-fold. Anyway, I digress.
>
> That what I wanted to get into, in the early 90's. Late 90's, major pharmaceutical companies funded extensive forays into various cultures, and bought up the rights to their knowledge. In some limited cases, the folk medicine has been further studied, but mostly it was to lock it up. To keep others from studying these plants (patented), publishing (same), profiting from, etc. To turn "common knowledge" into proprietary information.
>
> The indiginous peoples got little in return. Mostly, they didn't even understand what the contracts were about.
>
> Meanwhile, deforestation, and rapid climate change, and all that, are wiping out entire ecosystems, and all the mysteries and riches they once contained.
>
> There you have it.
>
> Lar

Larry, that sounds really interesting!

 

Re: ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess? » Larry Hoover

Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 8:57:39

In reply to Re: ethnobotanical biochemist - a guess? » LegWarmers, posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 0:03:54

> > > What is it? Fondly,Phillipa
> >
> >
> > good question...
> >
> > lets see... a biochemist studies living organisms and ethno is people botanical is plants....
> >
> > so lets see how close I can get lol
> > Is it someone who studies the processes of living organisms (plants and people)? maybe it has a drug componenet? Is it the study of drugs/chemicals on living organisms?
> > Am I close?
>
> Yes, that sounds about right.
>
> Lar

:) but much more too it as I read.
Will you tell Crazy T I dont know what Im talking about ;)

 

Re: Told ya! » crazy teresa

Posted by LegWarmers on January 3, 2006, at 8:58:27

In reply to Told ya! (nm) » LegWarmers, posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:36:55

la la la la la I can't hear you ;)

 

Re: Classes for Lar. » crazy teresa

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 3, 2006, at 10:07:16

In reply to Classes for Lar., posted by crazy teresa on January 3, 2006, at 0:28:06

> Obviously, you and your tongue would be subject to extensive preliminary testing before enrollment in the program. Only then could I exhaustedly determine how to properly test you, in order to establish how efficiently you could be utilized in my own personal testing of said categories.

You ever had a charley-horse of the tongue? I have.


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