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Re: Effexor XR Withdrawl Hell » ed_uk

Posted by JahL on May 23, 2005, at 20:34:08

In reply to Re: Effexor XR Withdrawl Hell » JahL, posted by ed_uk on May 23, 2005, at 18:03:14

Hi again.

> Oh yes, I forgot to mention. EVERYONE has to be on the same dose.... individual differences in dosage requirements just aren't taken into account.

And still they have to consult their manuals!

> >Vicodin...
>
> It not licensed in the UK :-(

Double :-( . Our dentist friend said he was permitted to prescribe it. Hmm. I guess he's mistaken.

> You might be able to get buprenorphine (Temgesic, Subutex, Transtec).

Ackk. Tried it; like a 'reverse opiate'. Felt dysphoric almost instantly. I've been taking low-dose 'diverted' Methadone for a few years now. Makes most people sleepy but it actually energises my twisted Bipolar brain! I can't work out on my punch bags until I've taken it. The dog gets a longer walk too...Just goes to show how heterogenous our brains are and why the 'cookie cutter' approach is doomed to fail a significant number of people.

This is why I'm interested in a full opioid agonist such as Vicodin. I know a few people who have taken it successfully w/o any real tolerance issues. Because of my Methadone experiences I'm certain that something like Vicodin would 'help', at least to some degree. Apparently it makes some people just feel 'normal' as opposed to euphoric.

Try getting it tho'. Impossible to get so much as a single pill to try. Well, nearly (I'm working on it...).

My question to you: do you know what full opioid agonists are available in the UK, other than diamorphine??

> My pdoc has never prescribed an MAOI in his entire career, neither had my old pdoc.

That's outrageous! What century do these guys come from? It's widely acknowledged that MAOIs can sometimes help where all other ADs fail.

Cheers,

J.


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