Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 4:44:18
so new zealand was in the process of building some convention centre in auckland. for trade stuff. for some big conference that was supposed to happen. to do with trade.
but there was a fire and it burned to the ground before it was finished.
and there was something briefly in the news about them doing it for the insurance money.
they tried to blame an apprentice (of course) for accidentially leaving on a blow torch that was unattended. only the engineers of the blow torch were quick to point out that they weren't stupid enough to have designed a blow torch that was capable of being left on unattended.
so it's hard to see how it could have been an accident.
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but the insurance company will pay for it -- right?
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i don't know if nz has insurance companies... likely not... so people will come from overseas.
i think more recently i've seen something to the effect that...
we aren't allowed to make milk powder by ourselves anymore. we are required to work under supervision from chinese... auditors? testers? i think they regularly test the contents etc. otherwise we are no longer allowed to supply to their market. because we are not to be trusted.
i think that more recently i've seen something to the effect that...
we are having external engineers to sign off on our building projects, now, too. i don't mean individual houses (though it may come to that) i mean high rises.
to check the steel. to check the foundations. to check the concrete. to check... every step of the way.
otherwise i don't think we can get insurance for the buildings, anymore.
i think there is something like that.
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apparently lawyers are required to have insurance.
because there is an awful lot of bad law advice out there.
i mean... all they can really say is 'well, there isn't any precedent in the new zealand courts so, hey, they can't judge you did anything wrong insofar as precedent'. or... 'hey this is new zealand just do whatever you want'.
up to 1.3 millino dollars indemnity insurance, recently. required. for parners. in order to practice.
and i guess every time they are found wrong then the cost of that insurance goes up until it's too expensive for them to practice.
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i wonder if we will get clock in and clock out of the hospital systems.
we need them.
to enforce the schedule. work starts. work stops.
if you aren't scheduled on -- then you are required to get the f*ck out. we can't afford the libility insurance to have you committing accidential death when you are in the hospital off schedule. when you are in the process of committing a crime and somebody dies that's called murder.
did not take due care.
it's not reasonable care or skill when your shift is up
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apparently they are only considering that in the US. that's about where things are at, there.
some question about whether there is evidence that surgeons working long hours commit more accients. so whether there is grounds to think that they are operating without due care and skill if they are operating outside the hours. after a 10 hour shift or whatever. without having the breaks they are supposed to...
there are genuine difficulties there...
but new zealand mostly has difficulty...
most creates difficulties. artificially.
an attempt to.... be obstructive. create confusion.
if we spend all our time denying the obvious we never get to make progress on the things that are genuinely difficult.____________
the ethics lady seemed nice. i was being slightly facecious.
shame i couldn't have worked *with* her.
genuinely.i think they were trying to display...
how the medical kids get the best of everything.
the best of the teachers etc.she seemed to have good and sensible intuitions was my point there.
it was refreshing to be on the same page.
that i started where she was hoping things would end up. we were on the same page.
sense of morality. there was.
the point of the ethics discussion at Tamaki seemed to be to... show. demonstrate...
that there were smart kids there enrolled in that programme.
good kids. kids with good intuitions.
they were young kids. they had never studied ethics before. it was their first or second day of classes at university. they were asking good questions and raising good points.
kids who were enrolled in (by the view of the university) the idiot degree for imbecels.
and of course she didn't teach anyting out at Tamaki. not sure why they gave the Tamaki kids any exposure to her at all.
i think it might have been just that...
then teh quality of the teaching turned to...
well... we had a lecture on 'who wins the health system olympics' whereby new zealand is somehow proclaimed to be first in virtue of dragging it's heels as the last of the developed nations (which somehow makes it the best because we are patting ourselves on the back we are doing better than very veyr very corrupt nations (allegedly).
and watching sicko.
and so on.
and reading what the idiot from otago thinks... the management guy with the mustache he thinks makes him look.... i have no idea.
his whole hierarchy thing. how we can't all be surgeons.
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