Posted by alexandra_k on June 8, 2009, at 19:17:11
In reply to the british pub is dieing boys, posted by manic666 on June 8, 2009, at 9:02:47
the main virtue of pubs is that you don't have to clean up afterwards. yeah, expensive. $7.50 Australian for a pint (british not american) at the local microbrewery. enough to keep the undergrads away but makes for a pretty expensive night out (though professors are wonderful about buying us beer). i think the smoking laws have a lot to answer for. in NZ the smoking laws resulted in a street party as the masses took their beer out onto the streets where you could smoke and the bars drew chalk lines on the tarmac to delineate their area of responsibility and put up gas heaters to keep the crowds happy. some unhappy pedestrians - but really why would you be in town that time of night if it isn't to join the street party? where i'm at in australia things are different. they are trying to get the inner city apartment thing going on for the overpaid young single civil servants and people aren't happy paying so much if they are living in the middle of a street party (go figure). you thus need to purchase a license for however many 'seats outside' and that is the number of people allowed outside with a drink. it is killing things, i hear what you are saying.
i think they could have gone about things better:
1) put the smoking section at the back of the pub such that people aren't forced to walk through the smoking section to get to the non-smoking section / the bar / the bathroom
2) put laws on the amount of air extraction equipment that is required to be running such that the smoke gets sucked out of the bar rather than drifting into the smokefree areas
the RSA clubs had it right. but not good enough for the law apparently. sigh. no smoking on campus where i was at in the US. what is the world coming to? can't some lawyer sue their butts for impinging on some right or other? whole bloody campus was founded on tobacco money - where is the gratitude?????