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Re: Astrology » Larry Hoover » alexandra_k

Posted by Larry Hoover on January 2, 2006, at 23:37:26

In reply to Re: Astrology » Larry Hoover, posted by alexandra_k on January 2, 2006, at 22:48:14

> > But need everything have an explanation?
>
> Hmm. Well lets see... Scientist A observes a phenomena and Scientists B and C get all excited. 'Calm down' says scientist A 'I don't think that event has an explanation'.
>
> Is that acceptable?

It might be the truth.

> (Sometimes people don't want to know - but that is a seperate issue)

Indeed.

> > Is it inherent to the Canberra Plan, to explain everything?
>
> It is inherent in scientific theory and has thus become part of the plan, yup. The idea isn't to explain everything... But the idea is that all naturalistic phenomena can be given a naturalistic explanation.

I disagree. See below.

> You see... If we don't believe that all naturalistic phenomena has a naturalistic explanation then why would we bother looking for a naturalistic explanation?

I believe that all phenomena, *all* phenomena, have naturalistic explanations. I also believe that we are not yet in possession of naturalistic explanations for all observed phenomena.

Yet. I love that word.

You said, "...all naturalistic phenomena can be given a naturalistic explanation."

I disagreed. I disagreed because we may not yet satisfy that second process, the part beginning with the word "can".

We can't always do so, no matter what our belief is with respect to the naturalistic origin of phenomena themselves.

> If we reject that assumption... Then haven't we given up on a scientific explanation of the natural world?

No.

> That is not to say that science is immune to revision, of course. Maybe... Physics needs to give a little in order to incorporate consciousness (for example)...

Revision. Expansion. Yet. That's where the fun is. The edges. The edges of what we know.

It's all a flow. A process. Even with a discreet beginning, I don't anticipate an end.

> Mmmmm. Good butter tart Larry ;-)

They are yummy. Come to Toronto in May, and get a Magick one. You see, I do believe in Magick, but I limit my belief to the art of Butter Tartery. ;-)

Lar

 

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