Posted by alexandra_k on May 31, 2005, at 20:19:14 [reposted on June 2, 2005, at 5:50:41 | original URL]
In reply to Re: Just a thought and a change of subject too, posted by Susan47 on May 31, 2005, at 19:34:54
> It's a fact to you that your consciousness is associated with your particular body, but that "fact" might also be part of a grand illusion in the brain of an alien ...
There are no false facts...
So if it is true that my consciousness is associated with my body then this is a fact.
If it is false that my consciousness is associated with my body then it is a fact that my consciousness is not associated with my body.> a reality we're not aware of perhaps, science outside of science as we know it ... okay that's paranoid, right?
Nope. Thats Descartes evil genius / demon which has been recast in modern form as the brain in a vat hypothesis.
How do you know that evil scientists didn't come into your room last night while you were sleeping...
They cut all your afferent (input) and efferent (output) nerves to your brain...
Removed it from your skull...
Placed your brain in a vat of nutrients to keep it healthy...
And are directly stimulating your brain so that you are having the experiences that you are having now???If it is true then here are some facts:
You don't have a body
(physical fact)
It seems to you that you have a body
(That isn't a physical fact - it is a fact about your experience / consciousness)
You do have a brain
(physical fact)etc.
Actually... Come to think of it... How do you know that you weren't created right NOW. And all of your 'memories' have simply been implanted into your mind by your creator?????
(You might think that other people would notice something odd about all this... But maybe everyone just came into existence right then)
Thats not paranoia
It's philosophy
;-)
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