Posted by pixygoth on November 27, 2003, at 5:56:44
In reply to Re: Redirected: What is consciousness?, posted by Jonny Trigonometry on November 25, 2003, at 23:15:31
Do you guys know (I presume you do considering the maths level) about the Turing stuff on Halting? Basically If you can think about thinking, you add a new level of consideration,. I f you think about that, there's another... the levels of consciousness automatically pile up, so we probably *won't* ever understand our brains at the reductionist level. However, all the new complexity theory stuff etc. shows how the "entropy-laden" domino analogy actually *does* avoid entropy in *some* arrangements - it is, as the name suggests, all very complex though.
Have you read Rudy Rucker? Mathematician, talks a lot about higher dimensions *and how to "enter" them*, conceptually speaking.
And so, when you (jonny) talk about moving away from "the universe", you mean moving away from *our* universe? right... so one can never leave the... multiverse if you like.
Also, String Theory with 10 dimensions came in 5 or 6 different shapes this was embarrasing fopr the physics people, but adding the 11th dimension apparently filled all these holes.
Also, can I say that I think the "curled up small" dimensions idea is misleading - from the inside of a sphere, the outside would *appear* to be the inside of something else, right? (in my head anyway...) so that would allow the six dimensions (the 11th is "over" the rest) to be "small" fom where we're looking, but big from the inside - from where I assume that *our* 4 dim.s would appear small and curled up. Yeah?
I have huge hopes for M-theory (strings with 11 dim.s) as I love QM and think that you have to take maths seriously if nothing else in this world.
Oh and sorry to be a pedant, But the cat paradox was Schrodingers attempt to show that QUantum Mech *could not* be correct. (Cos he couldn't believe that what looked like was happening actually was). Mathematically, QM *is* right, and Schrodinger's expt. is used everywhere in a way he would have been quite p*ssed off about. i,e, to show the weirdness, not show that the whole thing is wrong.
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