Posted by ayuda on May 9, 2003, at 9:51:58
In reply to Re: ?ayu,, posted by justyourlaugh on May 9, 2003, at 1:36:24
> ayu,
> i am so jaded,,
> i dont associate with "real"beings...
> i do believe there is good in all...
> but i do not want molesters in my heaven or hell,
> the "kids" today are so lost because there is no mama to tell them ..or be there enough for them to see..they are important,loved,special..and to be there to say"dinner is at 5"where are you going"wait!!!!ill come tooo...."
>My sister is one of those moms - because our parents were that way, and we still believe (no matter how f***ed up we think our parents were, and they really were), they did get it right that their job was to make sure that we grew up to be responsible adults who knew how to take care of a home and knew that we had to support ourselves -- and each other. And we all -- my entire family is involved in the raising of her children -- remind those kids every day that they are being groomed to being decent adults (and they will be decent teenagers), so get used to it.
While my father turned out to be quite abusive (my sister refuses to physically punish her children because of her trauma - I just refuse to have children), still, when I see people doing things to others, like those girls in Chicago or anywhere, I think that they could've benefited from being raised by him. Because behavior like that would leave your buttocks sore and in your room (no tvs, stereos, etc. in those rooms!) for a long, long time. And you would be greeted by him reminding you of why for a while, and a lot of extra chores, until you good and learned that lesson. None of my dad's children ever, ever, would be caught pulling stuff like those girls. Not on EITHER side of it, victim or victimizer.
Like I said in my first post, I don't even know what they have to be so angry about to be so abusive. I was really a physically abused teenager and still don't have that kind of anger or meanness within me. Maybe because I was abused I am more empathetic towards people, but it shouldn't have to take that to create empathetic people.
But to also answer to one of your other points, for as much as my sister dotes on her children and is 100+% involved in their lives, her daughter was still molested by a neighborhood teenager who was their babysitter last summer. We know this kids family for generations, been their neighbors for more than 40 years (it is a small, remote rural community) -- you just never know how these things are going to slip through the cracks. My sister is beside herself with grief over this, but my niece is handling it very well -- strong girl, I'll tell you.
Sometimes I really hate people in general. Then I remember that there are people to whom I am telling that, and people who are just as outraged as I at abuse and molestation, etc., and I can't stay mad at all of humanity. Like I said in my first post, you just would think that at some point in history people would start acting better towards each other, but no, human nature resists change over thousands of years. How primitive are we?
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