Posted by OddipusRex on January 31, 2003, at 21:34:06
In reply to standing by my view » OddipusRex, posted by IsoM on January 31, 2003, at 20:15:28
She aptly pointed out the difference between a "light hearted" joke & a derogatory one. She could see the difference. I can see the difference. Others can see the difference. You can't. It's like explaining colour to a colour-blind person.
Are you suggesting that I am somehow defective? I believe I CAN see the difference. Please don't make judgments about my ability to discern between light-hearted humour and derogatory jokes. Perhaps I am not the one who is unable to see colour. That statement caused me a lot of pain. I don't think because I disagree with you, I am somehow not as discerning as you and the "Others" you speak for.
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> "> I take it that you're actually serious about your post. May I suggest finding something more pressing & serious that needs guidance or correction?
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> No please don't suggest that. It would make me feel put down. Please don't make judgments about whether my concerns are pressing or serious."
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> I'm really astounded now. Would you really feel put down by my suggestion?*yes*
If someone said it to me (& they have), I wouldn't feel put down.
*But I am not you and I don't want to become more like you.*
I'm not so sensitive that every passing comments going to make me feel belittled. I feel much more happy with myself than that. And I don't ind sensible suggestions from others. It's those sort of suggestions that have helped me to grow & mature over the years.
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> You're completely missing the point about the humour. It's not making fun about PEOPLE - it's making fun about the ideas of what may be polite. The ideas of etiquette can be quite amusing. I simply used the term Redneck Etiquette as that's how it was emailed me by a friend. I never in a thousand years thought anyone would get righteous over that term.
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I'm not "righteous" if you meant to imply self-righteous. I believe I'm right or I wouldn't have bothered to post.
How about if I call it Backwoods Etiquette? But wait - I live in near a heavily wooded area. That's not meant to be trite. I'm trying to get the point across that the humour is about *etiquette*, not *people*!
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Then why was it necessary to label it with a particular ethnic group? Are jokes about Jews being greedy about "personality traits" and not "people"? I don't think so!
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> And guess what? I do get upset when certain animals are unfairly maligned. I hate the wolf, the hynaena, the wolverine, spiders, & many bugs been shown as repulsive. I happen to like them. But I'm not chastising others about their idea of them. Yes, animals count. Not on the same level as people, but respect for all life is important & would go a long way to preserving our earth. But animals vs people is besides the point. And I'm sorry you didn't understand what I meant by it.
> - - - - -I think I did understand. Very well. I like animals too. But I don't compare defaming animals with defaming ethnic groups.
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> I don't mind you sticking to your principles. But I will stick to mine too & I stand by my comment that I see no harm in it. You do. End of discussion.
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But it harmed me. So there is *some* harm in it isn't there?
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Some people, if they don't know you just can't tell them. Louis Armstrong?
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