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Posted by Medusa on August 26, 2002, at 3:55:57

In reply to Re: Feelings influenced by depression. » nikioct73, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2002, at 19:21:08

Well, bring on the problems and complaints, at least here. I don't want to come here and read how great everybody's doing, and be the only person who really needs help. So from a completely selfish point of view, I say, please come here and post what's going on with you. Maybe you can't talk to people IRL about this stuff, I don't know if they really care. (But what does "care" mean anyway?) Depending on the definition, you could say that I don't "care", either. But I can listen, and I'm interested in what's going on with you and others on the board, and sometimes if I work through someone else's experience, it serves as practice and makes my own stuff easier to figure out and move on.

> Can you challenge the negative thoughts?
> Logically confront them with reasons you
> aren't stupid and thoughts of why people would
> care about you?

okay, well, this works for some people, but I have to modify it. instead of directly confronting the negative thoughts, I make myself defend them, really defend them. And most of the time, I end up with a mental truce - I don't "think positive", but I can make it pretty clear that people don't necessarily NOT care, and that it's not definite that I'm stupid beyond a doubt. It's really hard to come up with reasons you are stupid.

"Stupid is as stupid does, and I do stupid."

Okay. First. Who said "stupid is as stupid does"? On what authority do you accept this premise? Are you sure you're correct on this?

Then. Maybe it's not stupidity, but something related. Like ignorance. Or laziness. Or something else negative. Try to get more accurate, or more well-rounded, or more detailed, about this stupidity thing you've got going on. You're making it really simplistic, so instead, embrace it, and get to really know those shadows. No fair labeling them "stupidity" - that's too easy.

Try that, let me know if it's blarney.

M


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