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Re: Redirected: Psychiatry and Neurology

Posted by Squiggles on September 13, 2001, at 14:45:48

In reply to Redirected: Psychiatry and Neurology, posted by Dr. Bob on September 12, 2001, at 16:58:20

> [Posted by Elizabeth on September 11, 2001, at 12:50:15]
>
> > > The National Liberation Front of the American mentally ill was created with one purpose. To free the oppressed mentally ill from the idea they have a "mental problem."
> >
> > Dr. Bob, I know you wanted followups to be posted to PSB, but I feel that my remarks are more relevant here. My ideas on the subject don't arise from politics, but from my heritage as a scientist and as the daughter of a philosopher/historian of science and a biomedical ethicist.
> >
> > I think the problem is the dualism that creates the whole idea of "mental" versus "neurological" problems in the first place. It's time for psychiatry (and psychology), by whatever names, to take a jump from the middle ages to the 21st century.
> >
> > An incidental benefit of this type of change would be that we would all be "liberated" -- and simultaneously, people with all types of chronic medical illness would have the opportunity, e.g., to work with social workers.
> >
> > At the same time, because of current scientific and technological limitations that prevent us from understanding the pathophysiology of these diseases, I feel that empirical-descriptive psychiatry still does serve a useful purpose.
> >
> > -elizabeth
> > ["The Pact Against Vitalism," if you want a catchy organisation name :-)]
> >
> > p.s. If I haven't mentioned it already, I *loathe* the expression "chemical imbalance." Blatantly phony "brain science" stuff like that only contributes to the idea that the "mental = physical" concept is bogus. (It's been said that you can tell something's not a science if the name contains the word "science" -- e.g., social science, cognitive science, computer science. Not globally true, but very suggestive.) Just thought I'd share that thought in case anybody has any related thoughts.

Well, this is the kind of subject that merits
a tome on the philosophy of science and
the understand of the mental illness - it's so
huge. I will leave the philosophical problems
aside for now, which are at the bottom of things
imho, and just say that Psychiatry is Neurology
or at least used to be before Psychology split
into so many "silly" directions. The split
between the body and the mind in treating mental
illness is really a new thing, and I think it
started with the Behaviourists like Wundt.

Squiggles


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