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Re: New Citizen -- AMEN np

Posted by coral on November 9, 2000, at 12:31:21

In reply to New Citizen of Lumptonia Hannah, posted by shar on November 9, 2000, at 12:15:35

> Hello, Hannah.
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> As the Herstorical Curator of Lumptonia and High Priestess of Research, I would like to welcome you to this thread which is about Lumps, Lumptonians, Blobs, Sticky Brown Lips, the Official Walk, and all other humorous things Lumptonian. This thread consists of people playing and having fun; I'm sure you know how rare that is for us (insert diagnosis). I hope you will be able to join us.
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> I will warn you that not every word written here is politically or otherwise correct, The Herstorical Curator being one of the worst offenders. I can assure you, though, that every word I've read has been written in the spirit of fun, lightheartedness, playfulness, humor, and a lack of malintent, and a lack of attacks on others. I hope you can join us in this endeavor toward keeping Lumptonia safe for everyone.
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> Should you not be able to join us, I hope you will be able to state your negative feelings elsewhere. (The Herstorical Curator is confused about why you have insisted on continuing to post here since you have made your point in your first post.)
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> You've said what you needed or wanted to say about your opinion of the Havenmaster's post, and received an apology. Is there more of particular import that you wish to add? Is there anything different that you wish to say? The Herstorical Curator is confused about what should go into the Official Archives; repetition of the same position will make the archives far too voluminous.
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> And, the Herstorical Curator reiterates that she does not see the abuse in the post in question. Ism's don't necessarily equal abuse, in the HC's esteemed opinion. "Ism" means that one group is treated in a distinctly separate way from another, usually to their detriment. Here in Lumptonia, when writing with humor, I venture to say that the particular ism (sexism) to which you refer was barely even that. A parody of relationships, yes; but a serious denigration or discrimination against women? The HC would need to make a lonnnggg stretch to get to that point.
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> If you wish to stay in Lumptonia, you are welcome. If you wish to draw the HC (and perhaps others who share the HC's position) into your reality and experience, and into the hatred of misogyny and abuse, that is not as welcome.
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> However, the HC realizes by your insistence in posting on this thread, you may not care about what impact you are having on the others here, since you continue to post here. The HC would not expect that to change in the future, but desperately hopes that, having stated your position fully and in more than one post here, you can join us in fun or leave us to our fun.
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> The Right Honorable Herstorical Curator and High Priestess of Research
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> > HI Shar If you're a feminist you'll probably recognize me as one of those uppity women who doesn't know her place :o)
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> > I think it's important to confront abuse in the place where it is happening. It's not something to sweep under the rug (or onto another thread).
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> > I don't have any distaste or offense against Greg as a person. It was against the things he posted. I admire his sensitivity for recognizing that he was offending someone and hurting someone and taking responsibility for it.
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> > > I agree this should stay a separate thread, and let us ignernt other females/ladies/women/xx's have a little fun in Lumptonia.
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> > > When I read Greg's post, it never occurred to me that he was being insulting, because these are some of the things that have happened in relationships of mine. Ie, the PMS thing, the grey hair, not so much the misunderstanding.
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> > > Having been in a verbally and psychologically abusive relationship for too many years (divorced about 4 years ago and haven't dated since) I know what hurts me, I know the grinding hatred that the true misogynist uses whether in jest or while being serious. I know the shame associated with trying to live up to impossible "standards" that change in case you meet them. I know what it's like to hate myself because of the constant daily battering of verbal abuse.
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> > > I believe Greg is a Good Guy, he has become a good friend (one of the only males I've ever felt safe with). If all or part of what he says offends you, you are certainly entitled to your feelings and opinions, and I hope you will discuss them in this thread instead of bringing your distaste and offense for Greg into a thread where people are actually playing. Very rare for (insert diagnosis) to do; having fun.
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> > > BTW, I have been a Raging Feminist since the 70's and I take no prisoners, shoot straight, with no bull. Over the years, I've mellowed some, but will not stand for openly misogynistic statements here or anywhere else in my life.
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> > > Shar
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> > > > I guess I should just be a good little lump (hey maybe a coal lump?) and get myself off this thread and cease being uppity and stop complaining and start myself a separate but equal thread. But I think it's important to speak up and support people who are hurt by this kind of thing. Abuse of women includes verbal abuse and being couched in humor doesn't change that. I don't think you have to hurt other people to cheer yourself up. I don't think respecting other people is political correctness, I think it's treating people the way you would want to be treated.
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