Posted by special_k on April 9, 2006, at 4:46:23
In reply to that brand of therapy ;-) » special_k, posted by pseudoname on April 8, 2006, at 14:47:18
> If transference issues are considered in psychoanalysis, isn't that what the client is paying for?
Kind of...
> I guess I would like people to reconsider whether they want either of those services.
Okay.
> People typically have no idea what the brand of therapy is that they're about to receive.
Yep. And that isn't very good, I agree.
> Studies show people don't even know whether they're seeing a psychiatrist or a masters-degree counselor.
Yeah.
> I certainly never gave sufficiently-informed consent for getting into that sort of quicksand.
Okay. I think there should be more information on different varieties of therapy and what they may be best suited to. I think there is some info on that available online, for example. It would be nice if there was stuff to give to people in person too so people can pick the orientation that may be most suited to them.
> If an idea is at best unhelpful and more likely pernicious, those who understand that should be clearly spelling it out for others in the hope that fewer people will “agree” to such a process for themselves.Hrm. You know CBT only JUST outperformed brief psychotherapy (on depression, anxiety, and OCD I believe) - right? Re: psychoanalysis... That was developed for a different set of problems... And may be best suited to those...
> Transference has a fairly clear technical psychoanalytic definition, but it is also used in very vague senses both by analysts and by many “eclectic” therapists with no real psychoanalytic background. In both cases I think it is counterproductive.I agree it is most often used in a counter-productive way, but I disagree that it is ALWAYS used in a counter-productive way...
> I'm trying to suggest to them, and to anyone else who cares, that the theory of transference is baseless and distracting. My hope is that people will NOT agree to therapy in which it is seriously considered.
Oh.
You don't find that doing the same things over and over happens in your life?
I think I have many unhelpful patterns...
Sometimes I find awareness of how present behaviour fits into past pattern... Helps with the present behaviour. Can help an intense feeling be less as I gain some perspective on it (for example).
Nice to talk about this though.Maybe we could start another thread on it?
I have been struggling a little with different theorietical orientations myself. Sometimes I think I'd like to do analysis... Othertimes I think the whole thing is a crock. I'll admit I have less sympathy for the notions of 'id, ego, and superego' than I have for the defence mechanisms 'repression, transference, etc'.
Apparantly the latter were independently discovered (that may be wrong) and it would be interesting what could be done with them in the absence of the theorietical baggage that tends to freeride...
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