Posted by James K on January 6, 2006, at 0:39:51
In reply to Re: The social construction of (some) mental illness » James K, posted by alexandra_k on January 5, 2006, at 23:56:49
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> ideas i have heard before...
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> where did all the hysterics go????
> (people with psychosomatic paralysis)
> you don't see many nowdays
> (nowdays when it is fairly easy to detect as psychosomatic and patients tend to get a fairly unsympathetic response)
> whereas when freud and co were all interested...
> lotsa cases...
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> one thought is that...
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> it evolved into mpd.
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> interesting...
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> but what i'm wondering...
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> is whether there is a bunch of people...
> with similar personality (dunno what ya call it, hysterical, borderline, histeroid, dissociative, whatever...) where the SYMPTOMS may manifest differently as a function of culture but where...
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> there is an underlying similarity that does not vary as a function of culture...
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> dunno.---that is a thought worth pondering.
> > ---the fascinating part to me has to do with the concept of "reality of behavior including mental illness to the point of psychosis being capable of being produced by society's subconcious belief systems."
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> hmm. i'm not sure what that is about... i'm not sure what you mean by 'societies subconscious belief systems'.
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--- What I'm trying to refer to by stringing big words together. Is like the pig people, their society has this belief (which i guess isn't subconscious on second thought), and the men buy into and are actually mentally ill, and seemingly acting psychotic (not faking psychotic). And this doesn't exist except for their communities belief system. Another man in a different community (society?) would act completely different, but usually not psychotic. And I realize I'm the one who introduced psychosis into the conversation, so maybe this is my theory.---Taking this into modern western society esp. usa, then the beliefs would be subconscious. Folks don't know that young men think their only option is murder/suicide because society has told them that it is, but maybe that is why they think murder/suicide is their only option. (assuming this isn't all bunk), but the message is received anyway and amplified each time it occurs. So the man's real behavior which manifests itself in mentally ill, possibly psychotic mindset, was conceived and encouraged unknowingly by the society it hurts. (I don't want to excuse the crimes here I'm just speculating this theory farther out)
---I'm losing myself in run on sentences and inventing new sidetracks.
Time to go to bed. I enjoyed the idea. I'll read it all tomorrow and see if any of it makes sense. Maybe I'll bring it up in process group. that should get me more days in my program.
good night from
James K
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