Posted by alexandra_k on September 8, 2005, at 18:53:57
In reply to Re: So IYO, $$$ or lack of = worthiness or not?????, posted by crazy teresa on September 8, 2005, at 6:47:25
> > actually...
> > forget it.
> > i don't think i want to talk about politics with you.
> Because we don't agree?No. Because of uncivil comments.
> > i still feel fairly insulted by what you said before...> I'm sorry you feel that way. It looks as if you're freely expressing your own opinions, am I not entitled to have another?
You are entitled to have another.
You are not entitled to be uncivil.
Other countries approach america with a hand out to be filled and are ungrateful for the help america has offered them...I suppose you CAN believe what you like...
But what are the REASONS you have for that belief?
And what other countries are you thinking of?
Can you not see how someone from another country would likely be offended by that statement?
How would you feel if i said that america was always approaching nz with a hand out to be filled and that america was ungrateful? I think you'd have reason to be upset or at the very least require me to provide some justification for that belief.Its not disagreement i'm having trouble with its incivility.
> > besides which. we were talking about worthiness of FOREIGN aid. that bit was crucial.> No one was disputing that. NO ONE said ANYBODY was obligated to doing ANYTHING for the US.
Right. Then it seems we don't disagree on that after all.
> > of course americans have an obligation to help american citizens in need.
> > more so... the government has a moral obligation to look after the welfare of its citizens.
> > but no, the priority was clearly troops in iraq.> According to you.
Sorry, what is it that you are disputing???
1) That the american government has a moral obligation to look after the welfare of its citizens
2) That the american government chose to have troops in iraq rather than troops in new orleans
3) That american citizens have a moral obligation to help american citizens in need.
> Saddam pled guilty to how many murders? I suppose we should ignore this fact.I don't think we should ignore that.
But... I don't really see what thats got to do with america going into iraq. how many guilty murderers are there in the world? is america going to try and do something about all of them? do you really believe that is the main motivation for troops in iraq? how does that justify troops in iraq as opposed to troops somewhere else?>Along with the soldiers who are writing home telling of how people are begging them not to leave.
yeah. i guess the soldiers aren't going to be writing home telling of how other people are begging them to leave.
begging them to stop killing them
their kids
begging them to leave them alone and go home.
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