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Re: Garlic toxicity??

Posted by JLx on August 13, 2007, at 15:43:36

In reply to Re: Chocolate, onion and garlic toxicity » Klavot, posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2007, at 12:06:54

I've given my dogs plenty of garlic through the years, including garlic dog treats, raw and cooked garlic. It's recommended in a book I have called Dr. Pitcairn's "Natural Health for Dogs and Cats" which has sold many copies and is considered something of a classic.

I've never heard anything about garlic being toxic until just lately. (Chocolate and onions, yes, but not garlic.)

Holistic vets have been using garlic for years. http://www.azmira.com/PublicationGarlicTheFacts.htm

"Garlic, the Facts
Lisa S. Newman, ND, Ph.D.
When it comes to your pet’s health, do you want to follow facts or fears? Unfortunately, garlic has come under attack. This is primarily as a result of garlic’s close cousin onion’s reputation for triggering hemolytic or “Heinz factor” anemia (where circulating red blood cells burst) through its high concentration of thiosulphate. With onions, a single generous serving can cause this reaction.

Garlic simply DOES NOT CONTAIN THE SAME CONCENTRATION of this compound! In fact, it is barely traceable and readily excreted (not stored in the body).

Despite this fact, garlic is falling victim to mass hysteria spread through the internet. Yes, there are 51,174 sites devoted to warning about the “toxicity” of garlic, this hysteria has even prompted the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center to place a warning on garlic although there is little scientific data to back this claim other than the fact that thiosulphate is also found in garlic. Yet, there are also over 400,000 sites still proclaiming its benefits, many of them from reputable holistic veterinarians who have widely used garlic in their practice for many years!"

http://www.sojos.com/garlicarticle.html

"Despite its healing qualities, Garlic contains a compound named thiosulphate. In extremely high levels thiosulphate can be a dangerous toxin that cause hemolytic anemia in dogs. But we’re not talking about garlic dog treats, supplemental garlic, or healthy table scraps that may have included fresh garlic in the recipe. We’re talking about situations where your pet sniffs out several bulbs of garlic you were about to use for a giant batch of homemade spaghetti sauce for the whole neighborhood and winds up eating 50 cloves in one sitting. We repeat . . . it would take up to 50 cloves for garlic to be harmful to your dog!"

http://www.petalia.com.au/templates/storytemplate_process.cfm?story_no=257

"Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anaemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion

While garlic also contains the toxic ingredient thiosulphate, it seems that garlic is less toxic and large amounts would need to be eaten to cause illness."

I think it MUST be a question of volume or all the folks that have been giving their dogs garlic and garlic/brewer's yeast supplements all these years would have had many sick dogs.

JL


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