Posted by bleauberry on January 14, 2008, at 21:14:48
In reply to Consider Mercury toxicity....Really!, posted by sregan on January 12, 2008, at 22:06:40
You NEED to read Amalgam Illness by PHD Andrew Cutler. Immediately. Keep taking the selenium, but stop the other stuff. You need instructions on how to do this very dangerous stuff safely. The book does that.
There are backfire websites with scary horror stories of what happened to people when they took cilantro, chlorella, ALA, chelation IVs, other stuff, without knowing the proper way to chelate. The basic pattern is that when people chelate wrong they will feel real good real fast and much worse, much much worse, later. People who chelate right will feel slow gradual progress. The key is in the size of the dose and how many times a day it is dosed.
I am mercury and lead toxic. Mercury from amalgams. Lead from...I don't know.
Most natural supplements for heavy metal cleansing are mobilizers. Which is bad. The last thing you want to do is pull mercury out of fatty tissues and let it redistribute somewhere else. A common phenomenon is to feel really good right away as that mercury is moving, and then really really worse later after it resettles somewhere new.
Chlorella is possibly a chelator, no one has proven it scientifically. Cilantro is a chelator, but no one knows its active substance, its mechanism, or its halflife. These are critical to know if you want to detox safely and not get worse.
You do not want to take mobilizers. They will stir up mercury faster than they will excrete it, which is not cool. Most people get much sicker. Any mobilizer such as chlorella do not have the strong sulfur group necessary to hang onto the mercury molecule all the way through the liver or kidney. They grab the mercury from tissue, but are not strong enough to hang onto it in the bloodstream where there are many other competing forces doing on. You need a double sulfur molecule to bind the mercury solidly all the way, which comes only in DMSA, DMPS, or ALA.
Sulfur foods make a lot of people sicker. They can stir up mercury but not bind it tight enough to excretion. Those foods include eggs, garlic, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, dairy.
There are only 3 chelators. DMSA, available on the net. DMPS, available by prescription. And ALA (alpha lipoic acid).
This is the important part...you have to take your chelator in timed doses that allow a steady blood level. This guarantees there is a constant flow of toxins from your tissues to the toilet with no chance for redistribution. Doses are timed on the halflives of the chelators. DMSA = every 4 hours around the clock including waking up in the middle of the night for a dose. DMPS = every 8 hours around the clock. ALA = every 3 hours around the clock, 4 hours allowed at night.
DMSA and DMPS will not pull mercury from the brain. They are good to lower the bodies burden first. ALA removes mercury from the brain.
You should go to Yahoo and join the group (forum) called frequent-dose-chelation. There are countless people there, and in the archives, with experience in what you are dealing with. Most can only handle 3mg to 12mg of ALA per dose, working up to 25mg or 50mg after a few months.
Your post scared me because we have seen this pattern so often when someone takes a mercury mobilizer or chelator, they feel immediate improvement, get over confident, and then after a few weeks or months find they are much much worse off than before they started. Why? Because they were not excreting the mercury as fast as they were mobilizing it. They were basically re-poisoning themselves.
There are many ways to detox and many websites willing to sell you stuff and make wild claims. There is only one SAFE way to detox.
Do not do IVs. Do not do a challenge test. Cilantro or chlorella are dangerous. ALA may be your best friend, but you have to keep a steady blood level...every 3 hours.
Read the book. It will be your lifesaver and your bible.
So glad you are on the right path. It is my opinion a majority of people at pbabble are suffering from undiagnosed toxicities. As you will see in the book, even miniscule amounts of toxins can make genetically vulnerable people extremely ill. Usually psychiatric in nature.
Do it safe. Do not proceed until you know how. Please.
Safe good things to take until you study the book...
Vitamin C as much as you can handle.
Vitamin B complex what you are comfortable with.
Selenium 400mcg, +or- 200mcg...selenium binds to mercury, does not mobilize it or chelate, but somewhat neutralizes its toxic effects.
And a host of others, all spelled out in the book. Each supplement is for a specific symptom, but the above ones are basics.At a very minimum, join the Yahoo group because you can interact with many people in your shoes, and you will have access to tons of scientific data, terrifying stories from real people of what went wrong when they were doing exactly what you are doing, and hundreds of questions and answers from the author of the book Amalgam Illness, and references to other reputable websites with good safe information.
Avoid copper in water and vitamins.
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