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Derealization/depersonalization --- Revisit

Posted by Norrin Radd on October 13, 2007, at 10:19:04

_Grant Em posted:

"I have spontaneous panic attacks, and they always seem to start w/ dissociation.

First, I'll feel that Im not as conscious as I should be. I realize that I'm not completely aware of my surroundings... I feel like I'm not able to fully comprehend everything. If some is talking to me, I realize that I'm not understanding part or all of what they are saying. If I'm just looking at something, I feel that the object is unreal."

(From here: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050718/msgs/530664.html)

Earlier, HopeB posted this:

" ... I have been dealing with it for ayear now and it is very hard and I cover very well but somtimes I feel like I just can't any longer what do you do?
also I have found mine is worse at night- also somtimes my family and familiar things seem foggy and unfamiliar like I have to remind myself this is real and they are familiar! anyone else?"

(from here: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20001231/msgs/50957.html)

I get these episodes also. I'm 47. I had less than a handful (i.e. five or fewer) scattered randomly over my life beginning at *roughly* age 12. This past summer and fall, I suddenly started getting them frequently. For me, there is no "firm" pattern, but there seems to be *some* correlation to fatigue, change of sleep schedule, and maybe crashing blood sugar. For me, the derealization/depersonalization feelings usually come first, and they in turn lead to panic. I "cover" well, but inside... Well, picture Charlie Brown running full-tilt across the screen with his arms in the air and yelling, "Aaaaauuugghhh!!!" I usually find that if I can manage to survive the urge to run (as if I could outrun chemicals in my own brain anyway!), a nap -- even a very brief one -- seems to help quite a bit; it's almost like some sort of "reboot."

There is no *external* trigger for the "attacks."

I have no history of childhood trauma; I can hardly imagine a LESS traumatic or stressful childhood. In fact, I sometimes wonder if the relative ease of my youth left me unprepared to handle even mundane stressors.

I have not considered myself "anxious," until recently; I am now often "anxious" about the prospect of having another attack, or about a feeling of derealization that does not end. However, even when not consciously "feeling" anxious, I am fidgety and easily startled, and always have been so.


Ok, with all that aside...

Anyone have suggestions?

Niacinamide? Thiamine? GABA? Omega-3 fats? DMAE? Inositol? Anything else?


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