Posted by tealady on March 10, 2007, at 2:10:24
In reply to Arthitis » tealady, posted by Declan on March 3, 2007, at 22:10:04
> I had a bit of loose cartilege in the knee joint and there was an idea that removal might have a beneficial effect on the eventual outcome as far as osteoarthritis goes.
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> You have arthritis, Jan?
> I control (but cannot cure) mine with a raft of natural things. Fish oil, glucosamine, boswellia.....but there are lots of others too.I'm not sure what it is Dec.
Had this in the left knee for maybe 15 mths or so now.
It's not thw same as the usual arthritis..
I had some of some kind in my 30's and got rid of it after about 9 mths at the gym bikes etc and swimming. St the time the doc said that was osteo and my joints in my knessand and fingers were red and swollen.. been gone for 8 years or so and then this.
This feels differnt.. it gets worse with exercise. I tried increasing levels and bike riding etc and it just got worse. it got worse with physio.. did for 4 mths or so.
If I do use it it just kinda "gives way" on me.. so the physio and docs advice was to cut out exercise and do minimal.. result weight gain.. sigh..and still OK doesn't hurt when not using it, although I can still feel it at night in bed but not the intense sharp pain where it feels like its going to "go" from under one.I have it a incy bit in my right knee too, but it's still pretty fuinctional and I wouldnt say anything if left knee was the same.
Xray was "normal" but physio said he could see maybe a vague something on inner side of left knee.
MRI showed a a lttle but as the doc said, its strange that for knees damage and pain and NOt correlated.
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MRI just said
"slight lateral tilting of the patella with minor loss of divergence of the lateral patellofemo compartment, Minor articular cartiledge thinning and early subchronfral bone changes are seen in the centrolate aspect opf the patella."
The patella tendon appeared normal. A patella tracking disorder is considered.
Both the medial and lateral collateral ligaments as well as the medial and lateral menisci appeared intact.
The weight bearing surface of the medial distal femoral condyle shows minimal thinning however no subchrondal osteochondroal lesion was found. Anterior and posterior cruciate ligaments are intact. there is no Bakers cyst now a signs of pes anscrine burstitis. The ITB appear normal.
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So if anyone understands any of that.. I just understand it's not bad?
I had suspected estrogen changes causing some
some damage after reading this article as the apin was from the same area..and my eatrogen levls are going rather crazy at present.The correlations between estradiol, estrone, estriol, progesterone, and sex hormone-binding globulin and anterior cruciate ligament stiffness in healthy, active females.Romani W, Patrie J, Curl LA, Flaws JA.
Department of Physical Therapy, University of Maryland School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland 21201, USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cruciate_ligament
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12804359It seemed to happen after a 6 hr step study I did back Nov 2005 ? or so.. fine at the time but just noticed using my knees ..like walking up multiple flights of steps at uni wowith backpac starting being gradually more and more noticeable soon after..
The doc suggested glucosamine.
I had been taking a glucosamine, MSM, chronditin powder mix on and off for a couple of years but did stop it early last year after reading something about glucoamine causing some kinda glucose problems within cells (or similar). and I seemed to be experiencing some high glucose type symptoms..which did seem to go away after I stopped it.. but then I went on the B1 too..so who know, shrugs shoulders???
Any thoughts or interpretations of MRI, my knee problems or anything most welcome :)
Sorry I took so long to reply, I had the Xrays and MRI's and then mispalced them.. how I can do this when they are sooo huge I do not know..
so I went to the docs today to get other report copies.
On Moday I'm flying to BN to try this Chinese GP who alsodoes accunpucture and also fixed up the neighbour across the road from me in BN's knee and yanking and twisting etc.. so maybe??
Was planning on taking the full Xrays and MRI's though .. but I guess the reports are better then nothing.
My Mum had that arthroscopy on both knees and later sopme other operation.. I refuse to go her track as it didn't work for her so unlikely to for me (being almost same mito).
The apin seems to have moved from my inner knee to the right middle now..and started to hutrt downhills more.. I think.. whereas before it ws just uneven ground.. terrific for bush walking... or even the steep beaches we have as compared to the UK where they are lovely and flat..(as far as knee pain goes:-)
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