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Kratom » zmg

Posted by Quintal on December 9, 2006, at 14:43:27 [reposted on December 10, 2006, at 23:43:15 | original URL]

In reply to Re: just a quick update, posted by zmg on December 9, 2006, at 13:57:42

I've read similar reports of this side effect before. It seems to be a concern for some people taking it at very high doses to get completely wasted for several decades - as with the long-term abuse mentioned among the working classes of Thailand.

This problem was raised by somebody posting on the opiate boards a while ago as it has become popular among heroin addicts posting there as a substitute and a self-help detox method. I'll try to find a link. It was not considered a problem by the people posting there who had been using it at high doses already for a few years. They considered the weight loss to be caused by appetite suppression (as is the case with all stims like the Focalin liliths is taking).

There's a similar syndrome reported with long term, chronic Kava Kava abuse which is also reported to damage the liver. It doesn't seem to apply to low/moderate therapeutic use.

I guess like with all substances using it excessively for a long period of time is likely to cause some harm, though the Kratom syndrome was reversible on discontinuation despite the great length of time (up to 30 years) it had been abused.

Q


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