Posted by tealady on May 27, 2005, at 21:52:46
In reply to Re: Pfeiffer Treatment Center » Larry Hoover, posted by Elroy on May 27, 2005, at 20:55:58
> Continuing with Pfeiffer: "They have a genetic tendency to be very depressed in folates, niacin, and Vitamin B-12, and biochemical treatment focuses on supplementation of these nutrients." This part is the opposite of other references. The folates and vitamin B-12 would be precursors, so an over-methylator should not be deficient in precursors. A person deficient in precursors should be low in methylation.
Pfeiffer is saying that B6, TMG, DMG, SAMe and SSRIs (medications that increase serotonin such as Zoloft and Prozac) are good for those with low methylation,
but B12 and folic acid is not (even though folic acid and B12 are precursors too).Pfeiffer is splitting out the folic acid and B12 from the others for some reason.
the receptionist said no problem, but it would cost $90 up front. > >
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>well IMHO the receptionist wouldn't have foggiest if anyone there could answer that question..but she IS trained to take $90 upfront regardless and book ya to someone who will maybe attempt an answer or maybe try to treat you as a routine patient :-)
Personally I think there may be a difference.
I can't tolerate methylcobalamin, but I think I'm OK on adensylcobalamin(no methyl). I also have high (over range) folate with NO supplementation...and high over the range selenium as well with no supps...But I do well on SAMe, zinc, calcium, magnesium, or at least they don't affect me negatively.
I haven't tried TMG. I've bought some from the US, but don't feel strong enough to try at present.
(My ferritin blood tests came back low again...really normal iron levels , hence the tiredness and sleeping and hair loss etc).My B12 is lowish and doesn't rise as fast or as much as others with supps either. (sublinguals and needles together for 18 months)..even with adverse reactions to the supps.
So for me anyway there's a diff somewhere there.
No idea what and the diagrams Lar put up are not detailed enough to explain any difference. My guess is it's not known.I didn't tolerate SSRI's well either...my gut at least is high enough in serotonin it doesn't need any more.
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