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Re: Arghhh » Larry Hoover

Posted by Elroy on May 24, 2005, at 13:52:45

In reply to Re: Arghhh » Elroy, posted by Larry Hoover on May 24, 2005, at 11:01:29

Yes, numerous urine cultuires were done to check for bacterial infection. None came back remotely close to positive. No prostatic fluid or semenal fuid tests were done to check for bacterial infection. Also have presented no signs of chronic bacterial infection (chills, fevers, etc.) as should have surfaced over the last year (almost) if this had been a bacterial infection.

Only other clues that I have are following:

1. If anxiety levels are "up", then this particular symptom (as well as the other physical symptoms) is "up" in intensity also.

2. Conversely, when anxiety levels are "down", then this particular symptom is very minimal to even non existent!

3. The ingestion of any supplement that increases adrenaline hormone related levels (tyrosine, DLPA, Effexor, Cymbalta, etc.)

RE: "I'm not sure why only some hypercortisolemic subjects experience the syndrome. It suggests that a disturbance in urine chemistry might exist, which may promote or permit specific types of infection."

No, the posting that referred to this male's discussion with his Endo indicated that the male poster had specifically asked his Endo if he was talking about the elevated cortisol making him more susceptible to UTI type infections or prostate infections and the Endo emphatically replied that he was NOT talking about this symptom being ANY type of infection, but that it was the excessive levels of cortisol in the urine causing a caustic type reaction on the mucus membranes of the urinary tract. He advised that certain people had more of a sensitivity to that reaction than others did. He also mentioned that the reason that people can have a positive reaction from a course of antibiotics (when they in fact have a non bacterial inflammation problem) is that most of the stronger antibiotics also have fairly decent anti-inflammatory properties and it is actually that latter aspect that brings a degree of relief.

I would assume that is also why antibiotics will sometimes bring relief to non bacterial prostatitis that is caused, for example, by candida overgrowth???

Unfortunately it is temporary if the underlying problem isn't addressed then I would assume that this is just a temporary fix.

And if it was a candida overgrowth problem, the antibiotics would - in the long run - simply enhance the underlying problem!

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> > No, the "burning urethra pain" does NOT occur when I am urinating - or at least isn't any worse.
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> Ok, I get it clearly now.
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> Obstruction or infection are generally the cause.
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> If you've ruled out swelling of the prostate (ultrasound? digital-rectal exam?), and prostatitis (infection of the prostate), then other physical obstruction of the urethra or infection thereof are reasonable assumptions.
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> I'm not sure why only some hypercortisolemic subjects experience the syndrome. It suggests that a disturbance in urine chemistry might exist, which may promote or permit specific types of infection.
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> Cranberry juice contains a substance that prevents bacteria from binding to the bladder and urethral walls. If they can't bind, they get flushed out.
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> The other thing might be BPH, benign prostatic hypertrophy. Saw palmetto does actually work relieve some prostate problems.
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> You say it's not bacterial prostatitis. That was from a microscopic examination of expressed fluids?
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> Lar


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