Posted by Larry Hoover on May 21, 2005, at 19:20:52
In reply to Re: is it possible to increase serotonin w/ diet/s » Larry Hoover, posted by Franz on May 21, 2005, at 18:41:26
> > Yes, that multi is enough. Make sure you have a good source of zinc(30 mg), and selenium (200 mg). And vitamin C.
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> I didn´t know selenium was important for serotonin thanks. 200 is a high dose.Brain f*rt. Sorry. That's micrograms, not mg of selenium.
Yes, it is a high amount. You'd take that for, say, three months, and then you could take half that amount.
I believe that selenium gets depleted by exposure to neuronal oxidants, and environmental toxins.
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> > I would strongly recommend fish oil. And, if you use that, you should take some vitamin E and/or alphalipoic acid.
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> Yes I think it would be good but I will not be able to buy the amino acid and the fish oil. I have some lipoic acid and I am taking small amounts.I don't know if you like it at all, but I buy pink salmon in a tin. Really inexpensive, when on sale. One or two tins a week would be good for the fish oils, and it's got lots of minerals too, because the bones have been softened enough you can eat them. Really quite a good nutrient source.
> > > From food, which can I consume that can have high tryptophan content?. Bananas, whey protein, milk?.
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> > There are no foods that really stand out. Whey protein powder seems to make me feel better, and I'm really not sure why.
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> Thanks for mentioning it. I read it has a high proportion of tryptophan. Maybe it is just good for some other reason.Dunno. It just seems to be better than other protein sources, mood wise.
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> > > regarding to herbs, from what I tried, ginseng seems to be good for an energizing feeling. I am not sure if ginseng works on serotonin.
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> > Does it matter, if it works? Do you mean red ginseng?
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> Well, yes it does matter because I want to make sure I am regulating serotonin and not just feeling better because it gives me some energy. I don´t know hot to explain better, say I take a coffee and feel better for a moment, that is good but not what I need.I get what you're saying.
We're not really sure just what most herbs do. They're complex mixtures of active substances. It's pretty hard to pin herbs down, and say "this herb raises that neurotransmitter". We know SJW is an antidepressant, but we can't really say why, even after years of intensive research.
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> > > Do you know which herbs, apart from SJW can help?.
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> > Siberian ginseng (not the same as red ginseng).
> > Eleutherococcus senticosus is what you want, here.
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> > Ashwaghanda is a possibility. Withania somnifera
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> > Rhodiola is another. Rhodiola rosea
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> > There are other choices, but you don't really say what your symptoms are.
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> I have tried Siberian ginseng and rhodiola. A brand of Siberian ginseng I liked but then ordered Siberian ginseng and rhodiola from Beyond a century and did not felt anything from them.I've been very happy with BAC. I've got a whole load of Rhodiola I can't use, because it works "backwards" in me. It makes me wired. Solgar brand, if you're wondering.
> Regarding my symtoms, I feel low energy and mood. From lab tests I know I have low serotonin markers. The results are coincident with some of the symptoms, so I think it may be right that I have a problem with serotonin. I have tried zoloft and tianeptine. I got only side effects from zoloft (maybe less anxiety). Tianeptine was better but not clear antidepressive or motivation effects.My best recommendation is tryptophan. Plain and simple. That veterinary source I listed is good stuff. People don't feed crap to their horses.
> An alternative could be SAMe. I have tried it and felt a stimulating effect.
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> The problem with supplements is that these are expensive and I have no coverage for them.I hear ya. SAMe is really expensive. Have you tried TMG?
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> > Even IF if you are using drugs, you need to feed your body what it needs to function properly. You are what you eat. Literally. Maybe it's time to give your body a nutritional tune-up. Some high octane fuel. Ya know?
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> Sure, I try to eat right and exercise but there is always room for improvement. Certainly, I need more fresh vegetables.
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> ThanksThere are always things to try, to bring into your toolbox of coping strategies. Every little bit helps, eh?
Lar
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