Posted by KaraS on December 12, 2004, at 18:52:39
In reply to Re: Anybody have any views on this plan - please » KaraS, posted by jujube on December 12, 2004, at 16:27:34
> > My first reaction is that you have a high dose of DMAE and a very low dose of SAM-e. I'm also wondering if you're giving the trials enough time.
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> - Thanks Kara. You're right about the DMAE. I just looked back at my research, and it appears that 130 mg is the recommended starting dose. I was only able to get a product that contains 125 mg of pure elemental DMAE, so I will start with that (one cap a day). Good point about the Sam-e. It is a low dose. I am kind of hoping that with the Celexa, I won't have to go too high. However, you are right, if I don't get at least a minimal response at 400 mg with the Celexa, then perhaps I will go up to 600 mg or 800 mg. >Some people get anxious and stiff neck problems from DMAE in large doses. You may be able to tolerate the 250 but definitely a good idea to start at the 125 mg. In terms of the SAM-e, I wasn't thinking about the Celexa. Best to be cautious there and gradually build up too I guess. I took 1200 mg. but I wasn't taking much else at the time other than a small amount of Effexor. I had recently read a post by someone who said that they didn't have a response to SAM-e until they hit 1600 mg. That's so expensive not to mention that you're supposed to take it in 400 mg. doses at a time. When you factor that in with the fact that you have to take it two hours after a meal and 45 minutes before eating, then your entire day will be revolving around taking the SAM-e.
> > You remind me a lot of myself. When I first joined the board I would post plans like that - only mine weren't as sensible as yours.
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> - I remember when I started reading the board. I have to say that your posts, with your well-thought out plans and options, always impressed me. I hadn't realized that lay people could know so much about this stuff. And, unlike me who has the attention span of a tse tse fly, you do really thorough research. My short attention span gets in the way of my reading the lengthier and more detailed studies and reports. Hey, maybe the DMAE will help with the ADHD! That would be nice. Being able to stay focussed and interested in something for an adequate length of time would be so nice. However, my ADHD symptoms have served me well in my current job which requires me to work on four or five urgent priorties almost at the same time. It's a catch 22, I guess.
>Thank you for the compliment. I can't believe that you said that though. I don't feel that I know very much at all - at least compared to many of the people here. I also feel that YOU do much more good research than I do. I think I pontificate a lot but I don't always back things up with good studies or abstracts. Fortunately others here do.
> They would be so long and involved and then I would badger poor Larry over them.
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> - It's so nice to have someone as knowledgeable and so willing to share their expertise with people as Larry is. He's a gem that's for sure. I have to say that I also appreciate and value the insights of Raybakes and Tealady as well.Yes, definitely, and several others too numerous to mention (including JLx and Simus) who aren't necessarily around as often but make great contributions. This forum has been such a wonderful source of information and support for me. Previous to finding this site, I literally had no one at all to talk to about medications or supplements or even depression (other than my doctor of course) for so many years.
> Anyways, I saw your thread above about the niacinimide. So glad to hear that you are experiencing some relief from your asthma and panic symptoms. I remember in my early 30s ending up at emergency a few times with breathing problems. Once it was a lung infection, but a couple of other times it ended up being panic. It's so scary when our breathing is affected by either panic or asthma.Thanks. I think it was 75% panic but something is definitely causing my nasal membranes to swell up so that I can't breathe out of my nose very often. I'd like to get my mother on niacinamide as well. Right now she's starting on an Ativan habit. I'll keep pushing for the B3 though. But she's of the opinion that if her pdoc doesn't tell her to take it then she shouldn't. How did you get yours to listen to you? Maybe tonight when I talk to her and tell her about my success with it, she'll listen.
I will be very curious to see how you fare on various aspects of your new program. Definitely keep us posted!
Kara
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