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Re: Can GABA be taken with AD's? » Daniel Woodfield

Posted by jujube on October 13, 2004, at 9:00:21 [reposted on October 15, 2004, at 6:50:17 | original URL]

In reply to Re: Can GABA be taken with AD's?, posted by Daniel Woodfield on October 13, 2004, at 8:42:24

I don't know that all doctors and medical professionals espouse this messaging. I presented a list of aminos I wanted to supplement with, including 5-HTP, to my gp and pdoc and neither had a problem with the supplementation. When you think of it, docs combine ADs that affect serotonin often. I would think that as long as the supplementation is discussed with, and supervised to some degree by, the doc that prescribed the AD, it may be worth exploring. In my readings, I have heard of some doctors that will pursue augmenting an AD with 5-HTP if the patient has a good, but not substantial response to an AD. Personally, I would much prefer to try augmenting with something natural before adding a second AD and having to deal with yet another set of side effects.

Tamara

> Its a shame that the medical world have put out a strict message that combining 5HTP with an AD is an absolute no no.
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> Personally i feel in many cases this could be very advantageous.
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> When people don't respond to ADs there has to be a reason for it.
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> 1) It could be that the persons serotonin levels are already fine and their depression lies elsewhere.
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> 2) And i find this very interesting and think it maybe many peoples problem is that people simply aren't generating enough serotonin in the first place.
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> I found an article somewhere that explained it in a very interesting way.
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> If a car has run out of gas, the owner of the car does not insert a device to keep gas from being used up but instead fills up the tank with gas.
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> Lets say a depressed person has used up their serotonin stores, putting in a block to stop serotonin from being re-uptaken isn't going to help anything because there isn't any serotonin in the first place. Its a completely pointless excersise.
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> Using 5-htp on its own pours serotonin back into the brain and in effect fills up the tank.
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> If the person who is filling up their serotonin tank does not have enough serotonin receptors to recieve their new stores of serotonin, then and only then will blocking the re-uptake of it help the person out.
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> So in effect if a person has depleted their serotonin stores, they need to refill them. ADs will not do this, 5-HTP will. If then they are still depressed and its a serotonin related issue, the ADs will be able to do the job they were designed for and actually keep the newly delievered serotonin in the synapses and through this mode of action create new serotonin receptors.
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> The AD could be slowly fazed out and the patient could top their serotonin levels up from time to time with a few weeks of 5-HTP intake.
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> Unfortunately no medical set ups in any country are prepared to care enough about their pateints (for whatever reason) to actually take the time to evaluate the ACTUAL problem that is going on inside each individuals brain. Its a general feling of what can work for some people, may work for all people regardless of the consequences of getting the disgnosis terribly wrong.
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> (BTW DO NOT under any circumstances take 5-HTP with your AD, without knowing what is going on inside your own head for absolute certain this combination can indeed be deadly.)


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